We received this response to Part 1 of How the Lord Exposed Billy Graham:
Please remove me from your mailing list. In my opinion you are in error and I no longer wish to receive it.
David
Victor’s reply:
David,
If you are truly serious about the Lord Jesus Christ, then you need to repent of opinion and subsequent faulty judgment. By what testimony of Scripture or witness of the Holy Spirit do you judge us to be in error? By the possession and speaking of the gifts of the Holy Spirit as testified of in Scripture? Can you show us anything in the Bible that specifically and clearly refutes the gifts? Give us the testimony of the Lord and His Word now, and none of your opinion. We do the same for you, not that you ought to do it only if we do it. Even if we did not give you Scriptural testimony, you ought to do so if you name the wonderful Name of Jesus Christ.
As to what we have written about Billy Graham, how do you disprove what we say? Why do you condemn us, and by what truth? Come on, David; time to get real and right with God instead of just religious and self-righteous.
We will unsubscribe you as you ask. Just consider your ways. Try reading Our Testimonies, and, concerning “error,” try The True Marks of a Cult. Let us see who is in error, according to Jesus Christ and His Word.
Earnestly contending for the faith once delivered to the saints, and thankful to be able to do so,
Victor Hafichuk
David’s reply:
Victor,
While I can tell by your words and actions that this will not likely be heard, nevertheless I will try to communicate with you in love.
I love the Lord Jesus Christ with all my heart, soul, mind and strength. He has asked me to write this to you.
I am not judging you; just your belief in your right to act as judge and jury.
I believe I hear the Lord saying to you, “Stop it! Stop judging my servants and creating divisions in my body”. This is a prophetic word to you and you may receive it as you will…
You are incorrect in believing that I was not Spirit filled and flowing in the gifts of the Holy Spirit, maybe you are missing it elsewhere as well?
You understand that just because someone says that they speak with authority, does not mean that they have it.
I have been filled with the Holy Spirit and serving the Lord for 25 years. I love the gifts of the Holy Spirit and accept them fully. While I have no need to justify myself to you or any man for it is the Lord Jesus Christ that judges me. Yet you have judge me by saying, “Come on, David; time to get real and right with God instead of just religious and self-righteous.”
You don’t know me and you are not by judge and yet you accuse me of being religious and self-righteous. Are you my accuser?
There are a lot of things you do not know about Billy Graham and you should not judge him either. He has changed in many areas and now works with many Spirit filled congregations throughout the world.
He may not walk in the all the light that some do, but that does not give you the right to judge him [Billy Graham]. He is not your servant!!!
You can judge doctrine if you are qualified and wish to, but not the man.
Many people spend too much time pointing fingers and not enough time in the presence of the Lord looking for their own beams. Why is this? If you really walked in the authority that you say you do, you would not judge the Lord’s servants as you do.
Do you wish to be the accuser of the brethren? I tell you the truth Billy Graham is well loved by the Lord and you need to fear the Lord and not judge his people. I am afraid for you Victor. This is not an area that the Lord takes lightly.
I do not agree with everything that Billy Graham says, but many Victor, and I mean many, have come to know Jesus Christ as Lord, by his ministry. His fruit is his testimony and it is a good testimony. My wife gave her heart to Jesus as a young girl because of this ministry and she has been Spirit Filled for over 30 years serving God with everything she is.
I don’t know you Victor, but from what little I have read you have missed the point. We are not to create divisions in the body of Christ by acting like doctrine cops, but we are to preach the truth in love bringing the body of Christ into unity.
We are to love each other into the truth by praying for each other.
We have all missed it here and there and none of us has obtained the fullness of truth in this life, except of course Jesus Christ. This does not mean that you have to accept false doctrine, but then speak about the doctrine and not the man.
This is where I see error in your letters. You have set yourself up as judge and jury and you don’t have the authority regardless of what you say. I know the Lord Jesus Christ and have a relationship with Him base in humility and transparency. I love his presence and desire to be with Him more that anything. That is why I don’t wish to read your emails… They grieve the Holy Spirit and that grieves me.
Victor I am praying for you. It is my prayer that you come to a deeper understanding and knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ. That you would know his heart and how much he loves us. Yes, even those who do not walk in the all the fullness of the Holy Spirit. Even those who, out of ignorance, speak against the workings of the Holy Spirit (this is not blaspheming the Holy Spirit. If you thought so you were in error). God is gracious and full of mercy. He is long suffering; not wishing any to perish. I know my Father and my Lord Jesus Christ and he is a faithful and good God. He does not expect us to walk in all truth from the first day we receive Him, but it is a gradual progression of sanctification.
Finally Victor it not about if I am right or you are right… It’s about Jesus Christ and His glory. It is Jesus that is always right.
I could give you all the scriptures concerning this issue, but I know that you have read them many times. The questions remains have you understood them? There is one scripture I will leave you to ponder…
1 Cor. 13:1-10 (NASB-U)
If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. 2If I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3And if I give all my possessions to feed the poor, and if I surrender my body to be burned, but do not have love, it profits me nothing.
4Love is patient, love is kind and is not jealous; love does not brag and is not arrogant, 5does not act unbecomingly; it does not seek its own, is not provoked, does not take into account a wrong suffered, 6does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth; 7bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
8Love never fails; but if there are gifts of prophecy, they will be done away; if there are tongues, they will cease; if there is knowledge, it will be done away. 9For we know in part and we prophesy in part; 10but when the perfect comes, the partial will be done away.
I love this scripture even thought some attempt to use it incorrectly. It is the heart of the gifts…
With the greatest love,
David
Paul’s reply:
David, Paul here. Victor and I write The Issues of Life, being given a ministry in the Lord to do so. I will answer your letter within the body so you will see that your words are contrary to the God of Creation and Author of Scripture, Who is indeed with us, and not with you. You are in idolatry, worshiping another Jesus, having received another spirit. I will identify and expose this spirit, which God shall destroy by the Spirit of His mouth.
Your letter is in blue text.
David: Victor,
While I can tell by your words and actions that this will not likely be heard, nevertheless I will try to communicate with you in love.
Paul: Here is the difference between the Spirit of Truth and the spirit of error. The spirit you have received teaches you to try to love. The Spirit of God is love. We do not need to try to love you because we love you by our new nature, which has been born of, and formed by, the Spirit of God. We walk by the same Spirit as the Lord Jesus, Who never said anything like “I will try to communicate with you in love.”
You love us in your carnal nature, which is something you do in your own power and understanding. You do not have the love of God in you, nor His power. Here is what Jesus Christ says to such as you:
“But I know you, that you do not have the love of God in you” (John 5:42 MKJV).
How so? He goes on:
“I have come in My Father’s name, and you do not receive Me. If another shall come in his own name, him you will receive” (John 5:43 MKJV).
Because you favor yourself over God, you will receive another in his own name – Billy Graham, for example. Because we come in the Father’s Name, you do not receive us. You condemn us for speaking His words.
David: I love the Lord Jesus Christ with all my heart, soul, mind and strength. He has asked me to write this to you.
Paul: It is no wonder that the spirit by which you presume to write us in the Name of the Lord makes a great show and profession of love towards God. What are lying spirits all about, if not lying? You have been following a false Jesus. However, you cannot put the blame on the spirit. The real Jesus said this to those who professed to love God, as you do, yet did not receive Him:
“Hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, saying, This people draws near to Me with their mouth, and honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me” (Matthew 15:7-8).
David: I am not judging you; just your belief in your right to act as judge and jury.
Paul: We are our belief. So yes, you are judging us, and why use fancy footwork to try to deny it? However, with a lying spirit, what can you do but lie? You say that you have not judged us, not because you care about us or what is right, but to escape your own judgment in what the Lord has given us to say.
Yes, Jesus spoke the words, “Judge not, lest you be judged…,” but not to deny us the exercise of godly judgment. He said this to inform us that it is not for us, in our own righteousness, and by our own estimation, to judge anyone. However, that is exactly what you do with us. That is unrighteous judgment, whereas Jesus said to judge righteously, which is what He and His servants from time immemorial have done. You have taken a truth and made it a lie.
“You judge after the flesh, I judge no one. And yet if I do judge, My judgment is true; for I am not alone, but I and the Father Who sent Me” (John 8:15-16 MKJV).
You are saying these things about your conduct, David, not to prevent others from being judged unrighteously (as we are by you), but so that you would not be judged righteously by God, as you need to be. You profess a false Christ, one manufactured and controlled by you, to preserve your rotting, stinking flesh. You let yourself off the hook in order to continue walking in your own righteousness – maintaining the illusion that you are as God. You view and treat the real Jesus Christ, Who represents the end to man’s righteousness, as your mortal enemy, which in a good sense, He is. He will make an end of you.
David: I believe I hear the Lord saying to you, “Stop it! Stop judging my servants and creating divisions in my body”. This is a prophetic word to you and you may receive it as you will…
Paul: You cannot come out and just say that you actually hear Him, can you, David? You leave yourself wiggle room by saying you “believe” you hear. That is because the Lord is not speaking to you. You cannot make a sure stand on quicksand.
As Victor gave ample evidence, born out by Scripture, Billy Graham is not a servant of God. Anyone following Graham is not following Christ, and if they hear His voice, it will be to hightail it out of there ASAP so that they might be joined to Him in holiness. You cannot be joined to the Lord and to a harlot:
“Do you not know that your bodies are the members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them the members of a harlot? God forbid! Or do you not know that he being joined to a harlot is one body? For He says, The two shall be one flesh” (1 Corinthians 6:15-16).
Billy Graham represents spiritual harlotry in all its glory. He speaks on behalf of all churches of men and endorses them all. He is selling the things of God for personal gain, a true servant of men and mammon. Those in Christ perish partaking with spiritual adulterers like him, make no doubt about it.
“Do you not know that you are a temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? If anyone defiles the temple of God, God shall destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which you are” (1 Corinthians 3:16-17).
As for those outside of Christ, they are already dead. We speak so that they might hear the Word of life and come out of their graves. They will precede the false religious such as you, who have made yourselves first, and shall be last.
No, David, the word you speak is prophecy from hell, where souls are being tormented by religious spirits such as yours, and are under the wrath of God. We speak by the Lord of light for deliverance of all, even you.
David: You are incorrect in believing that I was not Spirit filled and flowing in the gifts of the Holy Spirit, maybe you are missing it elsewhere as well?
Paul: Victor asked if you did not believe in the gifts because you found fault with his letter, in your opinion. He was asking what the problem was, and if it had to do with the fact that God spoke to him and his wife through the gifts of the Spirit. You are not reading our letters correctly, let alone able to discern our spirits. The spirit you are flowing in may give you many fine feelings and sensational experiences, but one can get those from cocaine or marijuana. Those drugs would also hamper the ability of many to perceive the words and meanings of others, as you experience and demonstrate here in your letter. We believe what we see, David, and not what you declare, when it is contrary to reality.
David: You understand that just because someone says that they speak with authority, does not mean that they have it.
Paul: Yes, and what is your point? Victor did not claim that he spoke with authority; he simply has what he has and gave a straightforward report of it. Even if we were to say that we have authority, which we do, that does not mean that we do not. We are in agreement with the authentic Lord Jesus Christ, Who said to those such as you:
“If I honor Myself, My honor is nothing; it is My Father that honors Me, of Whom you say that He is your God. Yet you have not known Him, but I know Him. And if I should say I do not know Him, I would be a liar like unto you. But I know Him, and keep His saying” (John 8:54-55).
David: I have been filled with the Holy Spirit and serving the Lord for 25 years. I love the gifts of the Holy Spirit and accept them fully. While I have no need to justify myself to you or any man for it is the Lord Jesus Christ that judges me. Yet you have judge me by saying, “Come on, David; time to get real and right with God instead of just religious and self-righteous.”
Paul: Contrary to what your lying spirit informs you, the genuine Lord Jesus Christ is on the record as saying that He would send others to speak and judge on His behalf:
“Therefore, behold, I send prophets and wise men and scribes to you. And you will kill and crucify some of them. And some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city” (Matthew 23:34 MKJV).
And lest you say, as the ignorant and rebellious do, that this was only in the days of the apostles, the real Jesus Christ also said this about His presence with those whom He sends:
“Teaching them [the nations] to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen” (Matthew 28:20 KJV).
By denying that any man can judge you, you deny Jesus Christ, Who sends men to render judgment, not for condemnation, but for salvation. You choose your putrid self-righteousness over His judgment, damning yourself, and denying His salvation. You have not submitted yourself to the only Name under Heaven whereby men can be saved. You are one of the many men whom the real Jesus Christ warned His followers would say that He is Christ, and would deceive many by so doing (Matthew 24:5).
“The simple believes every word, but the wise considers his step” (Proverbs 14:15 LITV).
David: You don’t know me and you are not my judge and yet you accuse me of being religious and self-righteous. Are you my accuser?
Paul: We do not know you? Says who? You, who are blind and deluded by a false spirit? Do you really think your fruits are not visible? Did the Lord say in vain we would know them by their fruits? Does that lead to false accusations, or true charges?
David: There are a lot of things you do not know about Billy Graham and you should not judge him either. He has changed in many areas and now works with many Spirit filled congregations throughout the world.
Paul: If they were Spirit filled congregations, they would have nothing to do with false prophets like Billy Graham, except to tell them the truth. They would not associate with them as professing believers unless they repent at the truth that they, as true Spirit filled and obedient believers, would be living and preaching. That people accept Billy Graham shows of what kind of spirit they are, which is not of God but of the world. You are all of one spirit, which is the harlot described in Revelation, with many names (many opinions and denominations), divided, yet united.
If the Lord gives an answer, as Victor related, who are you to tell us we need more information to correct His mistaken (according to you) answer? Get behind us, Satan, for you lie, savoring the things of men.
David: He may not walk in all the light that some do, but that does not give you the right to judge him [Billy Graham]. He is not your servant!!!
Paul: The point is that he is not our brother. He is not walking in the light, period. His light is darkness, as is yours. He is your brother, and you are both servants of Satan. But we have gotten the victory over you, Satan, in the true and living Word of God, the Lord Jesus Christ, Whose glorious Name you have defiled for long enough.
“I write to you, fathers, because you have known Him Who is from the beginning. I have written to you, young men, because you are strong, and the Word of God abides in you, and you have overcome the evil one” (1 John 2:14 MKJV).
We do not judge Billy Graham or you; your own fruits judge you both. We are merely pointing out those fruits to those who can see, and so that others might see. That you deny the truth also judges you.
“He that rejects Me, and receives not My words, has One that judges him; the Word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day” (John 12:48).
David: You can judge doctrine if you are qualified and wish to, but not the man.
Paul: This is another restatement of your false teaching that denies reality and the Lord, Who is Reality. Paul wrote for believers to have no company with another brother if he was a fornicator (I Corinthians 5:11). Is that a judgment of doctrine, or a judgment of the man, according to his doings? Fool! Listen to what Paul said to the Corinthians about one particularly vile fornicator:
“And you are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that has done this deed might be taken away from among you. For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that has so done this deed, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, with my spirit; also, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ; to deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus” (1 Corinthians 5:2-5).
You damn Paul in what he did in the Name and power of the Lord, which was done for the salvation of the offender, and for the welfare of the Body of Christ. You, therefore, damn God, having made yourself His judge. By doing so, you have damned yourself. You demonstrate what kind of spirit you have, David, with every word you speak.
David: Many people spend too much time pointing fingers and not enough time in the presence of the Lord looking for their own beams. Why is this? If you really walked in the authority that you say you do, you would not judge the Lord’s servants as you do.
Paul: More lies. Paul confronted Peter, a true servant of God, and judged him when Peter was at fault (Galatians 2:11). Peter, in turn, received that judgment from God for his good. How much more are we, the saints of God, to contend for the faith with those false ones who have crept in by stealth, who were before “ordained to this condemnation” (Jude 1:4)?
David: Do you wish to be the accuser of the brethren? I tell you the truth Billy Graham is well loved by the Lord and you need to fear the Lord and not judge his people. I am afraid for you Victor. This is not an area that the Lord takes lightly.
Paul: We stand on what the Lord has said, done, and has revealed in us, and will continue, by His grace, to contend for the faith. We know by which god you speak – the one who preserves (loves) the flesh and is there to puff up men in the pride of life, as Satan tempted Christ:
“Again, the Devil took Him up into a very high mountain and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. And he said to Him, All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me. Then Jesus said to him, Go, Satan! For it is written, You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve” (Matthew 4:8-10 MKJV).
Billy Graham has opted for the glory of this world, and has received the rewards thereof. By the grace of God, we are not afraid to identify with the legitimate and rightful Lord Jesus Christ against the worldly “Christian” tares and whoremongers (fornicators with the world). We thank God for the great privilege to do so.
We will see where your path takes you, and where ours takes us. Let us compare notes over the coming years, Lord willing.
David: I do not agree with everything that Billy Graham says, but many Victor, and I mean many, have come to know Jesus Christ as Lord, by his ministry. His fruit is his testimony and it is a good testimony. My wife gave her heart to Jesus as a young girl because of this ministry and she has been Spirit Filled for over 30 years serving God with everything she is.
Paul: If your wife is in agreement with Billy Graham, and with you, then she has nothing except straw and stubble. Men may be impressed with her piety and works, but those are works of the flesh and not of the Spirit of God, to be consumed in the fire, even as they are now.
David: I don’t know you Victor, but from what little I have read you have missed the point. We are not to create divisions in the body of Christ by acting like doctrine cops, but we are to preach the truth in love bringing the body of Christ into unity.
Paul: If you do not know Victor, how can you judge him? By speaking falsehood and teaching false doctrine, and by opposing the true, you are the one creating divisions in the Body of Christ, if possible. We, on the other hand, preach the truth in love, and are awakening and alerting the scattered sheep of the Lord to gather in Him by coming out of men’s works, thereby uniting with one another. Those who have eyes to see and ears to hear will know it.
David: We are to love each other into the truth by praying for each other.
Paul: Is that so? How can you love others into that which you lack, the truth? Furthermore, not having the truth means you do not have the love of God, Who is the Truth. How can you love God when you prefer and choose to be your own god? Yours is the love of Ashtoreth, heathen goddess of love and fertility. “Loving each other into the truth by prayer” is her way of saying, “You do not need to do the truth, accept and honor other men in their sins and they will accept you. That is my truth and the unity of my body.” Here is what the original and true Lord Jesus Christ inspired Paul to say about this:
“But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed” (Galatians 1:8 KJV).
You have heard from an angel, David? Let that angel be accursed.
We do not pray others into the truth by our love or will, but we do pray for the brethren as led by the Spirit:
“Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much” (James 5:16).
“If anyone sees his brother sin a sin not to death, he shall ask, and He shall give him life for those that do not sin to death. There is a sin to death, I do not say that he shall pray for it” (1 John 5:16 MKJV).
Here is what we are told, by the only true and righteous God, to do for others:
“These are the things that you shall do. Each man speak the truth to his neighbor. Judge with truth and justice for peace in your gates” (Zechariah 8:16 MKJV).
As for who is added to the church, God adds those that would be saved, not by our praying them in with our own power and love, but by His will and choosing as we testify to the Word of life by His Spirit, the true Lord Jesus Christ (not the imitation one that does nothing but bring the empty platitudes and lies you are believing and speaking).
“But as many as received Him, to them gave He power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on His name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God” (John 1:12-13 KJV).
David: We have all missed it here and there and none of us has obtained the fullness of truth in this life, except of course Jesus Christ. This does not mean that you have to accept false doctrine, but then speak about the doctrine and not the man.
Paul: Satan loves this lie – “speak about the doctrine and not the man.” But the truth is that it is the man believing false doctrines who is the problem, not the doctrine in and of itself! A false doctrine cannot hurt a man, but lacking love of the truth causes men harm through the lies they choose to believe. Can they be addressed by debating doctrine, or is there something deeper and more personal needed? How did Jesus address people, by doctrine alone, or by speaking to the man? And why did He do that?
But Satan, who comes as an angel of light, does not address the man. He deals in doctrines, form and appearance, which spare the flesh and the corrupt sin nature. He says, “We can talk about religious beliefs, but not about the sins that separate men from God, which are specific and individual.” However, the sinner and his sin is the issue, and not the doctrine and religious belief. The sinner needs to repent, not change his doctrine. True doctrines follow true faith, born of repentance.
As for the fullness of truth in this life, you speak for yourself when you say “none of us has obtained it, except of course Jesus Christ.” We, those of us in Jesus Christ, have received the fullness of Truth, Which He is:
“But he who has the Spirit, though judging all things, is himself judged by no one. For who has knowledge of the mind of the Lord, so as to be His teacher? But we have the mind of Christ” (1 Corinthians 2:15-16 BBE).
“And as for you, the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you have no need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him” (1 John 2:27 EMTV).
You plainly confess that Jesus Christ has not come in your flesh, and deny that He has come in ours. You judge us for judging you according to the Spirit, Who is Jesus Christ. You are antiChrist.
David: This is where I see error in your letters. You have set yourself up as judge and jury and you don’t have the authority regardless of what you say. I know the Lord Jesus Christ and have a relationship with Him base in humility and transparency. I love his presence and desire to be with Him more that anything. That is why I don’t wish to read your emails… They grieve the Holy Spirit and that grieves me.
Paul: You tell Victor (who never made any claims to you about himself) that he has no authority from the Lord, but you testify that you are humble and transparent. On whose authority do you make your claims? You are indeed transparent, to those in Christ. We see your lack of humility. You call the ways of God evil, and wipe your mouth, saying you are clean. That is the very opposite of humility. You have a false Christ and false Holy Spirit. Yours is a lying spirit, which explains your grief at hearing the truth.
David: Victor I am praying for you. It is my prayer that you come to a deeper understanding and knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ. That you would know his heart and how much he loves us. Yes, even those who do not walk in the all the fullness of the Holy Spirit. Even those who, out of ignorance, speak against the workings of the Holy Spirit (this is not blaspheming the Holy Spirit. If you thought so you were in error). God is gracious and full of mercy. He is long suffering; not wishing any to perish. I know my Father and my Lord Jesus Christ and he is a faithful and good God. He does not expect us to walk in all truth from the first day we receive Him, but it is a gradual progression of sanctification.
Paul: God is good. He is gracious and full of mercy. He is also long suffering, and He is not willing that any should perish. Therefore none shall, ultimately, because He wills it. Who will stop Him? Do you allow Him this glory also, or are you saying He wills it but cannot perform it? You had better hope He can accomplish it, because you are already perishing without hope.
But did you not know that half of the truth is not the truth? Leaving out a portion leaves you with nothing. Oxygen does not make water; you also need hydrogen. You leave out the other necessity of God’s nature:
“Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God; on them which fell, severity; but towards you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness: otherwise you also shall be cut off” (Romans 11:22).
God is not the loving fool you make Him out to be, and He is not mocked. A man reaps as he sows. That is why He sends His servants to speak judgment. By making Him out to be as you presume to be, a non-judgmental lover who only kisses, you deny yourself and others the One Who also wounds, speaking the truth in love. Jesus Christ is the truth, the light with which sin cannot co-habitat. He is the hard reality that cuts the cancer out to save men’s souls, instead of nurturing the cancer that destroys, as you and your spirit do.
David: Finally Victor it’s not about if I am right or you are right… It’s about Jesus Christ and His glory. It is Jesus that is always right.
Paul: Victor was right, David; you need to get real and stop being so religious. Your self-effacement is a ruse, the attention focused on your presumed wisdom and piety, and away from your responsibility to answer for your lies. It will not gain you any favor with God that you give Him lip service; it only serves to increase His anger and the wrath you will experience.
David: I could give you all the scriptures concerning this issue, but I know that you have read them many times. The questions remains have you understood them? There is one scripture I will leave you to ponder…
1 Cor. 13:1-10 (NASB-U)
If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. 2If I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3And if I give all my possessions to feed the poor, and if I surrender my body to be burned, but do not have love, it profits me nothing.
4Love is patient, love is kind and is not jealous; love does not brag and is not arrogant, 5does not act unbecomingly; it does not seek its own, is not provoked, does not take into account a wrong suffered, 6does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth; 7bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
8Love never fails; but if there are gifts of prophecy, they will be done away; if there are tongues, they will cease; if there is knowledge, it will be done away. 9For we know in part and we prophesy in part; 10but when the perfect comes, the partial will be done away.
I love this scripture even though some attempt to use it incorrectly. It is the heart of the gifts…
With the greatest love,
David
Paul: Your love is not the greatest, except to other lovers of selves. It is carnal, unholy, and unacceptable. You are a worshiper of other gods, David, confusing the love of man for the love of God. You manifest the spirit of Ashtoreth, who is all about love of this world, preserving the flesh. Ashtoreth encourages sin and unreality, telling her adherents to not receive judgment. Behind the loving facade is a bloodthirsty whore, drunk with the blood of the saints, a hater of God and His judgments.
As for us, we will continue to follow the true Lord Jesus Christ and Author of Scripture, Who leads us to contend for the faith, because we have the love of God through Him.
“Hate the evil, and love the good, and establish judgment in the gate: it may be that the LORD God of hosts will be gracious unto the remnant of Joseph” (Amos 5:15 KJV).