Was Stephen Wrong to Call Jesus God?

From: THE GRACE OF YAHWEH’S MINISTRY
To: The Path of Truth
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 1:25 AM
Subject: Jesus

Dears Victor and Paul,

Hi, you said this verse John 8:58 prove Jesus is God.Do you know that Jesus appeared on earth he was a Spirit of God Almighty. I mean a different entity that God Father (1 Peter 1:10-12, Psalm 110:1)

Do you know Jesus has a God and Father he worship?

Look at these verses (Math 26:39, Math 11:25) If so He has a God how could be God?

Again these verses prove Jesus has a God and Father (John 20:17, John 8:54 Eph 1:3)

Jesus Christ is lord because God Yahweh makes him Lord and Messiah (Acts 2:36)

We, Christians, we have ONE ONLY ONE GOD, the Father (1 Cor 8:5-6)

The bible says: The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob Has glorify his son Jesus (Acts 3:13) and the same God of Abraham who said his name is I AM who I AM that is YHWH. However, when you say I AM means I AM WHO I AM that is a Mistake.

You say also that 1 Tim 6:13-16 is talking about Jesus, as God that is not true, When you read KJV it says about Jesus, but when the with NIV, or CEB is clear that is talking about YAHWEH your God

Thanks Yahweh Bless you.

Francois

From: Paul Cohen
To: Francois
Cc: Victor Hafichuk
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2014 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: Jesus

Francois,

We’ve readily answered all of your objections multiple times in the following sections on our site (you need to read ALL the writings):

Jesus Christ Is God
The Trinity

Even the Scriptures you bring up prove you’re misinterpreting the Bible. For example, 1 Peter 1:11 shows how Christ is the One True God, and not that He is another Spirit, as you presume.

The prophets of old were “searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify….” Who other than God inspires His true prophets? Christ was there, before His incarnation in the flesh, just as He was led Israel in the wilderness (1 Corinthians 10:4), because He is God.

As for 1 Timothy, are you saying Jesus Christ isn’t Lord of lords?

1 Timothy 6:13-16 KJV
(13) I give thee charge in the sight of God, Who quickeneth all things, and before Christ Jesus, Who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession;
(14) That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
(15) Which in His times He shall shew, Who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
(16) Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; Whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to Whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

“These will make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them. For He is Lord of lords and King of kings. And those with Him are the called and elect and faithful ones” (Revelation 17:14 MKJV).

We are with Jesus Christ, Francois. Who are you with? Isn’t this the most important matter at hand? Are you worshipping another god? See The Gospel According to Trinitarians.

Paul Cohen
www.ThePathofTruth.com

From: THE GRACE OF YAHWEH’S MINISTRY
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2014 9:06 PM
Subject: RE: Jesus

Mr Cohen,

Thanks for answering me. We are all know the word or we are all don’t know it, but the truth resides in the middle, and the Holy Spirit makes us to be righteous.

I read your articles. However, you miss my point. If Jesus is GOD, why the apostles claim Jesus has a GOD? If these verses aren’t true that means HERESIES for instance (Eph 1:3, I Peter 1:3, John 20:17) all these verses claim Jesus has a GOD and Father, not just apostles even Jesus himself agreed. You said this “incarnation in the flesh”

God Yahweh doesn’t need it to prove who he is. He never did it, He doesn’t do it and He won’t do it. That is Calvinism believes. If it true one has to die or one has to exist, but the bible doesn’t teach that. The reason I say that, Jesus talked about his Father when He was on earth (Math 11:25, Math 17:5, Math 3:16-17) and these verses prove God Father Yahweh exists. Now Jesus Christ is alive in heaven, he is still talking to his Father (Rom 8:34, Rev 1:1-2, Rev 5:1-7) God Yahweh give the Lamb; Jesus, the scroll.

One thing, don’t take me wrong trying to bring up all this. I don’t believe in trinity. I believe in one God Yahweh as only God and He sent Jesus Christ to save us (John 17:3). I believe in One Lord Jesus Christ as my savior, mediator, messiah, son of God Yahweh in glory of God. BUT JESUS IS NOT GOD.

And finally I believe in Holy Spirit as my guide, comforter, but Not my God. I do worship only God Yahweh the father and the God of our lord Jesus Christ. I certainly believe, Jesus Christ was sent by God Yahweh to do his works, not to become God and this is my biblical proof, 1 Corinthians 15:24-28. Thanks for precious time, Yahweh Bless you

From: Paul Cohen
To: Francois
Cc: Victor Hafichuk
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 9:48 AM
Subject: Re[3]: Jesus

“Therefore I said to you that you shall die in your sins, for if you do not believe that I AM, you shall die in your sins” (John 8:24 MKJV)

No, Francois, you haven’t red our articles, because your contentions are thoroughly answered in them and you haven’t acknowledged the answers. So be it. What can we do for you if you can’t see, yet insist that you can?

“Jesus said to them, If you were blind, you would have no sin. But now you say, We see. Therefore your sin remains” (John 9:41 MKJV).

If Jesus isn’t God, then why was Stephen, His martyr, praying to Him?

“And as they were stoning Stephen, he called out, ‘Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.’ And falling to his knees he cried out with a loud voice, ‘Lord, do not hold this sin against them.’ And when he had said this, he fell asleep” (Acts 7:59-60 ESV).

Mark 2:5-8 MKJV
(5) And seeing their faith, Jesus said to the paralytic, Child, your sins are forgiven to you.
(6) But some of the scribes were sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts,
(7) Why does this one speak such blasphemies? Who can forgive sins except God only?
(8) And instantly knowing in His spirit that they reasoned so within themselves, He said to them, Why do you reason these things in your heart?

Paul

From: THE GRACE OF YAHWEH’S MINISTRY
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 1:37 PM
Subject: RE: Re[3]: Jesus

Mr Paul,

I didn’t want to say anything else, but I am forced to say my opinion about you on this matter: “Jesus is GOD”. You sent me two context defining Jesus is God. I was chocked for you to bring such reasoning. Discernment the word of God is important before we jump to conclusion. I respect you and your work. I know you hate seeing me write to you again, it doesn’t matter. I just want to be clear for what you said:

If Jesus isn’t God, then why was Stephen, His martyr, praying to Him?

“And as they were stoning Stephen, he called out, ‘Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.’ And falling to his knees he cried out with a loud voice, ‘Lord, do not hold this sin against them.’ And when he had said this, he fell asleep” (Acts 7:59-60 ESV).

My answer is this: do we have to believe everything literately plain or to discern about it?

“When they saw him, they worshipped him, but some doubted.” (Matthew 28:17 CEB)

Why? because it was not right to do. So second, how Jesus taught us to pray:

“Pray like this: Our Father who is in heaven, uphold the holiness of your name.” (Matthew 6:9 CEB)

Jesus taught Satan to worship God Yahweh:

“Jesus answered, ‘It’s written, You will worship the Lord your God and serve only him.‘” (Luke 4:8 CEB)

What about Jesus disciples, who they worship:

Acts 4:24-31 CEB
24) They listened, then lifted their voices in unison to God, “Master, you are the one who created the heaven, the earth, the sea, and everything in them.
25) You are the one who spoke by the Holy Spirit through our ancestor David, your servant: Why did the Gentiles rage, and the peoples plot in vain?
26) The kings of the earth took their stand and the rulers gathered together as one against the Lord and against his Christ.
27) Indeed, both Herod and Pontius Pilate, with Gentiles and Israelites, did gather in this city against your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed.
28). They did what your power and plan had already determined would happen.
29) Now, Lord, take note of their threats and enable your servants to speak your word with complete confidence.
30) Stretch out your hand to bring healing and enable signs and wonders to be performed through the name of Jesus, your holy servant.”
31) After they prayed, the place where they were gathered was shaken. They were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began speaking God’s word with confidence.

They (his disciples) called that Jesus as “holy servant Jesus” of Yahweh.”

My question is, Paul, who to believe in right manner Stephen or what Jesus taught us? Even you forget to mention when Stephen saw the heaven opened, that the verse 55 mentioned this:

“But Stephen, enabled by the Holy Spirit, stared into heaven and saw God’s majesty and Jesus standing at God’s right side.” (Acts 7:55)

But you ignore that. However, Stephen made his own choice as we, all makes mistakes , but that doesn’t define Jesus is GOD. You wrote this, in defining that Jesus is God:

Mark 2:5-8 MKJV
(5) And seeing their faith, Jesus said to the paralytic, Child, your sins are forgiven to you.
(6) But some of the scribes were sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts,
(7) Why does this one speak such blasphemies? Who can forgive sins except God only?
(8) And instantly knowing in His spirit that they reasoned so within themselves, He said to them, Why do you reason these things in your heart?

Paul, I respect your reasoning, there is something you have to look at and pray the Almighty one reveals to you. If you think Jesus, because of the miracle, is God there is something you don’t understand about God Yahweh. Yahweh is not Yeshua and Yeshua isn’t Yahweh, two different entities. Yahweh Is The God and Father of Yeshua (Jesus) and Yeshua is the son of Yahweh. to show that miracle don’t define Jesus is God see this:

“You know about Jesus of Nazareth, whom God anointed with the Holy Spirit and endowed with power. Jesus traveled around doing good and healing everyone oppressed by the devil because God was with him.” (Acts 10:38 CEB)

Which God God anointed Him? Yahweh the God of:

“The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob—the God of our ancestors—has glorified his servant Jesus. This is the one you handed over and denied in Pilate’s presence, even though he had already decided to release him. (Ex:3:14)” (Acts 3:13 CEB)

Paul, I know your mind is set to believe so. I can ‘t blame you, but you misguide people to believe Jesus is God. I praise my God Yahweh who reveals himself to me, in Jesus name. I will also pray to Yahweh to keep helping you to come to realization of his Majestic name YHWH, in the Jesus Christ and the love of his Holy Spirit Amen.

You don’t need to be answered. However,I need to bring this remembrance about the mission of Christ:

1 Corinthians 15:24-28 CEB
24) and then the end, when Christ hands over the kingdom to God the Father, when he brings every form of rule, every authority and power to an end.
25) It is necessary for him to rule until he puts all enemies under his feet.
26) Death is the last enemy to be brought to an end,
27) since he has brought everything under control under his feet. When it says that everything has been brought under his control, this clearly means everything except for the one who placed everything under his control.
28) But when all things have been brought under his control, then the Son himself will also be under the control of the one who gave him control over everything so that God may be all in all.

Amen

From: Paul Cohen and Victor Hafichuk
To: Francois
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 8:58 AM
Subject: Re[5]: Jesus

Matthew 28:17-20 MKJV
(17) And when they saw Him, they worshiped Him. But some doubted.
(18) And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, All authority is given to Me in Heaven and in earth.
(19) Therefore go and teach all nations, baptizing them in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit [one Name for God – Jesus Christ],
(20) teaching them to observe all things, whatever I commanded you. And, behold, I am with you all the days until the end of the world. Amen.

You’ve red the above wrong, Francois. Jesus didn’t correct those who worshipped Him; He corrected those who didn’t.

John 20:27-29 MKJV
(27) Then He said to Thomas, Reach your finger here and behold My hands; and reach your hand here and thrust it into My side; and do not be unbelieving, but believing.
(28) And Thomas answered and said to Him, My Lord and my God!
(29) Jesus said to him, Thomas, because you have seen Me you have believed. Blessed are they who have not seen and have believed.

Within weeks, being full of the Holy Spirit, Peter declared what Name they ought to be baptized in:

“Then Peter said to them, Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the Name of Jesus Christ to remission of sins, and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit” (Acts 2:38 MKJV).

He also obeyed his Lord (there is Only One Lord) as to what Name he ought to baptize people in:

Can anyone forbid water that these, who have received the Holy Ghost as well as we, should not be baptized? And he commanded them to be baptized in the Name of the Lord” (Acts 10:47-48 MKJV).

Philip, one of those filled with the Holy Spirit, obeyed as to what the Name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit was because he baptized them in His Name:

“For as yet He had not fallen on any of them, they were baptized only in the Name of the Lord Jesus” (Acts 8:16 MKJV).

As for Stephen, you insist he made a mistake in God’s nature and identity by praying to Jesus. Yet Paul confirms Stephen’s testimony:

Acts 22:17-20 EMTV
(17) “And it happened to me, having returned to Jerusalem and praying in the temple, that I came to be in a trance
(18) and saw Him saying to me, ‘Hurry and go out quickly from Jerusalem, for they will not receive your witness about Me.’
(19) “And I said, ‘Lord, they know that in every synagogue I was imprisoning and beating those believing on You.
(20) And when the blood of Your witness Stephen was shed, I myself was standing by consenting to his murder, and guarding the clothes of those murdering him.’

How does one mistake the nature and identity of God when filled with the Holy Spirit of God (Acts 7:55, 56), of Jesus Christ, the Everlasting Father (Isaiah 9:6)? “Worship God, for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy” (Revelation 19:10 MKJV).

“I didn’t want to say anything else, but I am forced to say my opinion about you on this matter: “Jesus is GOD”.”

Forced? By what or whom? By the One and Only Lord, you certainly aren’t.

First, He doesn’t force:

“And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets” (1 Corinthians 14:32 MKJV).

Second, you don’t know Him and He certainly doesn’t know you:

Luke 13:25-28 MKJV
(25) And once the Master of the house has risen up and has shut the door, and you begin to stand outside and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us, and He shall answer and say to you, I do not know you; from where are you;
(26) then you shall begin to say, We ate and drank in Your presence, and You have taught in our streets.
(27) But He shall say, I tell you, I do not know you; from where you are. Depart from Me, all workers of unrighteousness!
(28) There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth when you will see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the Kingdom of God, and yourselves being thrust out.

So by the Spirit of the Lord we now say the same to you in this, His Great Day.

You refuse us and our authority in the Lord Jesus Christ because you hate, not love Him. Go your way with your opinions that destroy you; you have neither known Yahweh nor His grace.

Paul and Victor

From: THE GRACE OF YAHWEH’S MINISTRY
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 10:41 PM
Subject: RE: Re[5]: Jesus

Paul,

I see how you torture the word of God and I can’t blame you when you want to promote a human agenda, people always do that, but God Yhwh usually has his. Paul, forgive me to call you brother, because I know myself as Jew like you without identity, but by blood I am proud to be Jew, but I know my brothers they can not accept me, thinking I am an outcast. I believe, as the Lord says in Psalm 87:5:

“And of Zion it is said: “Each person was born in it, but the one who will establish it is the Most High.” (Psalm 87:5 CEB)

One day’ I will be in the family and sing the song of “aramanie” As Jew, I have been taught you can not deny your God YHWH. One thing You have to know wherever situation you may find yourself, in war, in slavery, in death praise YHWH and He is different from Christians God Jesus and He is usually near you, call upon his name YAhweh and He will answer you.

Jesus taught us, to have salvation is this:

John 17:3,6 CEB
3) This is eternal life: to know you, THE ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ whom you sent.
6) “I have revealed your NAME to the people you gave me from this world. They were yours and you gave them to me, and they have kept your word.

How is the true GOD and what NAME, Jesus was revealing. let read this

1 Corinthians 8:5-6 CEB
5) Granted, there are so-called “gods,” in heaven and on the earth, as there are many gods and many lords.
6) However, for us believers, There is one God the Father. All things come from him, and we belong to him. And there is one Lord Jesus Christ. All things exist through him, and we live through him.

Who is The Father?

“Jesus answered, “If I glorify myself, my glory is meaningless. My Father, who you say is your God, is the one who glorifies me.” (John 8:54 CEB)

Who is the God of the Jews and Father of Jesus?

“The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob—the God of our ancestors—has glorified his servant Jesus. This is the one you handed over and denied in Pilate’s presence, even though he had already decided to release him.” (Acts 3:13 CEB)

Is that true the GOd of Israel is the God of Jesus Christ?

“Jesus said to her, “Don’t hold on to me, for I haven’t yet gone up to my Father. Go to my brothers and sisters and tell them, ‘I’m going up to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”” (John 20:17 CEB)

The God of Israel who is HE?

“God said to Moses, “I Am Who I Am.So say to the Israelites, ‘I Am has sent me to you.’”15 God continued, “Say to the Israelites, ‘The Lord, the God of your ancestors, Abraham’s God, Isaac’s God, and Jacob’s God, has sent me to you.’ This is my name forever; this is how all generations will remember me.” (Exodus 3:14-15 CEB)

I know your more clever than I. I Am Who I Am means YHWH, but it doesn’t mean I AM. Don’t Ignore you GOd Yahweh is with you.

Look brother Paul there a challenge in your life to find your path. Is this your writing, yes “rationalize

You need to find what the lord try to tell you, the will, than to be dictated what to believe than what the bible says. Nobody can not tell you the Lord can no longer talk to you, it is not true. Finally, How we Justify to our fellow Jews that we are doing the mission of our God YHWh? However, That Yahweh turns to be Jesus Christ? It is going to be a big mistake.

As Jew this is the mission: salvation comes from Jews.

Is this reflect your mind?

Psalm 53:6 CEB
6) Let Israel’s salvation come out of Zion! When God changes his people’s circumstances for the better, Jacob will rejoice; Israel will celebrate!

Or this:

Zephaniah 3:9-14 CEB
9) Then I will change the speech of the peoples into pure speech, that all of them will call on the name of the Lord and will serve him as one.
10) From beyond the rivers of Cush, my daughter, my dispersed ones, will bring me offerings.
11) On that day, you won’t be ashamed of all your deeds with which you sinned against me; then I will remove from your midst those boasting with pride. No longer will you be haughty on my holy mountain,
12) but I will cause a humble and powerless people to remain in your midst; they will seek refuge in the name of the Lord.
13) The few remaining from Israel won’t commit injustice; they won’t tell lies; a deceitful tongue won’t be found on their lips. They will graze and lie down; no one will make them afraid.
14) Rejoice, Daughter Zion! Shout, Israel! Rejoice and exult with all your heart, Daughter Jerusalem.

Are these prophesies give you idea about what Yahweh needs us to do? or what about this prophecy

Acts 15:14-19 CEB
14) Simon reported how, in his kindness, God came to the Gentiles in the first place, to raise up from them a people of God. 15 The prophets’ words agree with this; as it is written,
16) After this I will return, and I will rebuild David’s fallen tent; I will rebuild what has been torn down. I will restore it even all the Gentiles who belong to me. The Lord says this, the one who does these things[a]
18) known from earliest times.
19) “Therefore, I conclude that we shouldn’t create problems for Gentiles who turn to God.

Thinks Brother Paul
Amen

From: Paul Cohen
To: Francois
Cc: Victor Hafichuk
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 8:23 AM
Subject: Re[7]: Jesus

It is written that if I honor Yeshua HaMashiach, and I surely do (and He has confirmed to me that I honor Him in that He honors me), then I honor the Father:

“The one receiving you receives Me, and the one receiving Me receives Him Who sent Me” (Matthew 10:40 LITV).

“Truly, truly, I say to you, The one who receives whomever I may send receives Me; and the one who receives Me receives the One Who sent Me” (John 13:20 LITV).

It is impossible to not honor YHWH when one honors His Son. They are One. I honor Him. Can you show me otherwise in Scripture?

No, you can’t, so why resist the truth?

You have been answered, Satan. Go your way.

Paul