From: Stephen
To: The Path of Truth
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 5:33 AM
Subject: A Question of dangerous doctrines
Hi there, I came across your site a few minutes ago as I was looking up some information and came across your page on the second coming. I understand the concept of Jesus being with us always in the Spirit, as He has repeatedly shown in my life, but I was confused at how you could deny that Jesus will not return bodily. Have you not read Acts 1:6-11? Or do you mean to say that the the receipt of the Holy Spirit by the Apostles was the second coming? If so, how can you explain that the the people were to see Him return the same way He had went? How do you reconcile this with every eye seeing him when He come in the clouds? You know, that whole twinkling of the eye stuff, or do you deny that as well?
If you can’t get even that right, how can anyone trust anything you have to say, regardless of whether it is true or not? I truly hope God will speak to you personally about this.
Sincerely,
Someone Disappointed
From: Paul Cohen and Victor Hafichuk
To: Stephen
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 7:24 AM
Subject: Re: A Question of dangerous doctrines
Hi Stephen,
Are you asking questions or lecturing us without knowledge or understanding? We see the latter, but are willing to answer your questions for judgment’s sake and for those who will profit by hearing the truth.
You ask if the receipt of the Holy Spirit by the apostles was the Lord returning to them (you call it “second coming”). Yes, it was.
“I will not leave you comfortless; I will come to you” (John 14:18 Webster).
You ask, “How can you explain that the the people were to see Him return the same way He had went?”
A cloud received the Lord out of the sight of the believers who saw His ascension, the Scripture says, and that He would return in like manner. In other words, the believers wouldn’t see Him with their physical eyes when He returned (so why stand there gazing in the sky?). And that’s exactly what happened – the Lord returned without them gazing or seeing Him physically descend from Heaven.
Romans 10:6-9 MKJV
(6) But the righteousness of faith says this: “Do not say in your heart, Who shall ascend into Heaven?” that is, to bring Christ down;
(7) or “Who shall descend into the deep?”; that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.
(8) But what does it say? “The Word is near you, even in your mouth and in your heart”; that is, the Word of Faith which we proclaim;
(9) Because if you confess the Lord Jesus, and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you shall be saved.
“How do you reconcile this with every eye seeing him when He come in the clouds? You know, that whole twinkling of the eye stuff, or do you deny that as well?”
“Behold, He comes with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, and those who pierced Him will see Him, and all the kindreds of the earth will wail because of Him. Even so, Amen” (Revelation 1:7 MKJV).
Every eye does see Him when He comes in the clouds, including those who don’t have faith and don’t know what they’re seeing. Saul of Tarsus, for example, saw the Lord’s coming in Stephen and the other believers he persecuted, as Jesus even said to him: “Saul, Saul, why do you persecute Me?”
And didn’t Saul wail because of Him? Yes, he did, as will all men in their time.
The “whole twinkling of the eye stuff” isn’t referring to the Lord’s coming, but speaks to those for whom He has already come:
“Behold, I speak a mystery to you; we shall not all fall asleep, but we shall all be changed; in a moment, in a glance of an eye, at the last trumpet. For a trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall all be changed” (1 Corinthians 15:51-52 MKJV).
The words you wrote to us apply to you, Stephen:
“If you can’t get even that right, how can anyone trust anything you have to say…?”
Paul and Victor
www.ThePathofTruth.com
From: Stephen
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2016 12:12 AM
Subject: Re: A Question of dangerous doctrines
I have read what you said. I believe I understand where you are coming from. You believe that the indwelling of the Holy Spirit is the resurrection and from that point on Christ is with that believer always.
But I must ask you, if the “second coming” is only the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, why does Paul speak of bodily resurrection? Or has the resurrection already happened for those who the Holy Spirit indwells?
If this is true, what happens when someone who is indwelt by the Holy Spirit when their body dies?
Or do you not know that the perishable cannot inherit the imperishable? If a true believer dies then this should stand as proof that the resurrection Paul speaks of is a future resurrection of the imperishable body, not an awakening of the spirit here and now. Paul wasn’t just rambling on things when he wrote. He was answering real questions and concerns. The Corinthians he was writing to were concerned about the resurrection especially in light of recent deaths of their brethren. Paul is assuring them that the resurrection will take place when Jesus returns to take dominion over the earth.
I’ll take Paul’s reassurance and continue in the faith.
Still Disappointed,
Stephen
From: Beryl Knipe
To: Stephen
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 11:48 PM
Subject: Diabolical doctrines
Hi Stephen,
Sometimes we (spiritual believers) receive certain letters written by the servants at The Path of Truth – for no reason other than to enlighten, correct, chastise and inform us on the things of our Lord and God, Jesus Christ. Just about every letter, from mockers begins with: “I stumbled upon your website” or “I came across your website” or “I was looking for so-and-so and I happened upon your website.”
My question to you, Stephen and others, is: If you know you have the Truth, why would you bother searching for anyone or anything – on the Internet? Because, you don’t know Him! That’s why. What a great pity that people willingly attack servants of the Lord, without first humbling themselves and taking the time and the courtesy to read from the website – where ALL questions are answered, from the Lord to YOU and to us. But, oh no, you think it’s funny and you have the absolute audacity to say: “I truly hope God will speak to you personally about this.”
To you, Stephen: 2 Timothy 4:3-4 “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto myths.”
Your ears are itching and you have no way of alleviating that itch – until – you turn to Him and follow His Truth. If you feel disappointed as you say you do, it’s purely and simply explained on TPOT’s website, with Scriptures backing up every single thing. You see, if you knew Him, as you think you do, you most certainly wouldn’t be asking such reckless questions, specifically ending with your foolish statement!
Beryl
From: Stephen
To: Beryl Knipe
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2016 08:45 AM
Subject: Re: Diabolical doctrines
Hi, I wasn’t searching for doctrine when I came upon the site, I was trying to get more information about particular pastor I had heard about and his name came up on one of the lists on the website. Frankly it wasn’t the same dude. The reason I was disappointed was because I was looking to see if there were others who felt wary of much of the teaching that is spreading these days concerning leaders and churches and thought maybe this site had some reference to help me as I battle against bogusness. I was disappointed to see that even more bogusness is presented on the website as Truth.
Not only that, but ya’ll claim to have the Holy Spirit. Frankly it doesn’t show up in your writing.
Was I foolish actually asking about something I already knew the answer to? Was I wrong to address teachings that clearly do not reflect what the Bible teaches about my Lord and Savior? No. I have done my part to warn you and the others. It is up to you to seek the Lord in all matters.
Sincerely,
Stephen
From: Victor and Paul
To: Stephen
Cc: Beryl Knipe
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 6:51 AM
Subject: Re[3]: A Question of dangerous doctrines/Diabolical doctrines
So Stephen, shall we defer to your judgment of what the Bible says and whether anyone or anything is true or false, be it person, church, doctrine, work, or spirit? Does that make you any different from anyone else you condemn and reject? So everyone is wrong except you; your judgment is superior to all others’. Are you perhaps trying to imitate what you say we are like and show us up?
Now we ought to see that you have the Holy Spirit and we don’t, is that so? And in all your wisdom, you’re looking high and low, walking to and fro in the earth and walking up and down in it, to find someone to agree with you, but it’s rather difficult, seeing we are all as wrong as you accuse of being, and you in your judgment seem to be the one that has it most right of all by a long shot.
Do we see a contradiction here, do you think? Aren’t you going to have one hell of a time finding someone, anyone, to measure up to your extraordinarily brilliant virtue? Hmmm?
“‘My’ Lord and Savior”? Oh my, Stephen! We have ourselves a righteous one here now, don’t we? Now you claim sole ownership and bona fide representation of the Lord Jesus Christ.
And now you’ve done your part to righteously warn us and shall forthwith summarily dismiss us vile wretches with a wave of your finger. We are doomed, now, are we…unless, we humble ourselves and come to realize you are God’s gift to men in this day, right?
You aren’t the only one to come to us using the expression, “My” Lord and Savior, warning us to heed their “word”? And do you know what each one of them is like? They’re all just like you, yet none of them with an equal as far as they’re concerned! So just how many of you “my’s” are there out there, anyway?
You say you battle against bogusness. You fight with yourself, Stephen; hence, you worship another Jesus and believe another Gospel. You’re a smoker, a self-aggrandizer, a cheap imitation of something dreamed up in your vain imagination of who the Lord Jesus Christ is. You are anti-Christ.
The Lord Jesus Christ is far from you. And now by us whom He has appointed to speak, He says to you, “Depart from me, you that work iniquity; I never knew you.”
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Stephen, Paul here. No, you don’t know what we believe, because you don’t know Him in Whom we believe. You’re unlearned and unstable.
“And think of the long-suffering of our Lord as salvation (as our beloved brother Paul also has written to you according to the wisdom given to him as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable pervert, as also they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction)” (2 Peter 3:15-16 MKJV).
From: Stephen
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 2:55 AM
Subject: Re: Re[3]: A Question of dangerous doctrines/Diabolical doctrines
I know you thought this conversation was over, and it may be after I send this email. Life goes on outside of emails like these and that is why it has taken me so long to reply.
But I must let you know, whatever spirit told that I was a smoker, whether it be your own heart or otherwise, don’t listen to it. I don’t smoke. Any other accusation you have heard from that voice is just as invalid.
Stable in Christ,
Stephen
From: Paul Cohen
To: Stephen
CC: Victor Hafichuk
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 7:13 AM
Subject: Re[5]: A Question of dangerous doctrines/Diabolical doctrines
No, Stephen, you are a smoker. You’ve misunderstood the vernacular:
smoker
A crack head or some one who acts like one….. an erratic/irrational person. Used since the 80s till present time.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=smoker
You’ve been getting high on religion, the most lethal drug of all. The Bible talks about your condition:
Proverbs 23:29-35 MKJV
(29) Who has woe? Who has sorrow? Who has fighting? Who has babbling? Who has wounds without cause? Who has redness of eyes?
(30) Those who stay long at the wine, those who go to seek mixed wine.
(31) Do not look upon the wine when it is red, when it gives its color in the cup, when it goes down smoothly
(32) At the last it bites like an asp and stings like an adder.
(33) Your eyes shall look upon strange women and your heart shall speak perverse things.
(34) Yes, you shall be as one who lies down in the middle of the sea, or as one who lies upon the top of a mast,
(35) saying, They struck me; I was not sick; they beat me, but I did not know it. When I awaken, I will add more. I will seek it again.
Paul