Let’s “clear the deck” on the post I sent out concerning Ron Wyatt’s story of his discovery of the Ark of the Covenant.
When I first posted it, I don’t recall consciously asking the Lord if Wyatt’s story was true or not. I didn’t feel the need to get a “Thus saith the Lord” on it, as is often the case, often assured the Lord was directing me for His purposes.
I was persuaded the story was true but I was undecided. However, instead of waiting for a direct answer from the Lord, I posted it, interested in seeing what others would have to say before I declared my conclusion. I knew the Lord would take care of it and make the Truth known to whom He chose.
Meanwhile, Martin, others, and I here at “home base” discussed the presentation and considered many things. Before replying, I believe I asked only one other person what he would have to say and that was Isaiah Dillard, who replied with what I judged was a circumspect response – not sycophantic, gullible, compromising, hasty, or dishonest. By then, he had discussed the matter with Alan Agnew and decided to let things go by. Isaiah’s words reflected my state of mind on the subject for the moment:
My initial reaction was I enjoyed it. There were jaw dropping moments (like the blood hitting the ark and DNA sequence). It made me view how in control God is. Also, the truth of keeping God’s Laws and Commandments, and not doing so brings judgment. It made me praise God for His omnipotence.
I didn’t trust everything with Ron, as there were 7th day Adventist end time vibes, but I know God can use anybody He wants for what He wants. Don’t want to be a pessimist, but also not gullible. I didn’t try to figure it out but appreciated the good of it. I know you wouldn’t send a video in vain.
I advised Alan [Agnew] to message you, as there has been back and forth in the group chat since Saturday with whether it’s true or false. Alan has been pretty adamant that it’s false, and He said he asked The Lord, and that He told Alan it was false.
That’s when I asked Alan today about contacting you, and this was our dialogue:
Me: “Have you also asked Victor? As he is the one that shared the video”
Alan: “I have not asked him if Ron made it up.”
Me: “May be good to ask why he shared it too. Do you think he would share something that is false?”
Alan: “If you’re expressing interest in hearing if Ron made it up and why Victor shared it, then I am glad. That was part of the purpose
Alan: “Yes, he would. Anybody could, even Joshua fell for the deception of Gideon.” [V: I believe he meant the Gibeonites of Joshua 9]
Me: “I don’t have the interest too much. More for you and others”
Alan: “Okay, I asked him just now”
I wasn’t too involved with the dialogue since Saturday. I spoke up today about asking you because I think it’s the proper order to follow, since you are our elder and the one who shared it.
That’s my thoughts on the matter
Several good points by Isaiah on the story. What is so persuasive about Wyatt’s presentation? It’s a hugely sensational story, the kind that appeals to someone hoping for the manifestation of the glory of God, perhaps, especially in this tumultuous time. The kind that can believe that if God so desired to present such an event.
He would have to be Almighty God in full control of all things like centuries-long timing, empires, nations, rulers, Jeremiah, the hiding of the Ark centuries earlier, in a place directly below where the crucifixion of His Son would occur, the inclination of the pagan Roman soldier to pierce Christ’s body, an earthquake to crack the rock with precision to accommodate the flow of Christ’s blood, the apparently logical possibility that His blood would land on the Mercy Seat way underground, and that in a possibly appropriate due time such as ours, these things would be revealed.
Isn’t that a tempting story to be believed? And if we tend to not believe it, we can be prone to suspect ourselves of being in unbelief toward God. “What makes you think God couldn’t or wouldn’t do such a thing? Isn’t it marvelous?”
Yes, it’s marvelous, all right. It seems to be a glorification of God, a striking token of the fulfillment and confirmation of His Sovereign Work of Salvation of mankind.
But I don’t believe Ron Wyatt’s story. For superficial, Scriptural, and spiritual reasons I don’t believe it. I believe Ron Wyatt was a glory seeker, a liar, thief, blasphemer, and vagabond – a liar because the story is false and he deceived the people, a thief because he robs them of their money to glorify himself, a blasphemer because he uses God and His Name to do so, and a vagabond who traveled the earth to do all these things with selfish, glory-seeking, irresponsible, and corrupt motives.
As sincere, self-sacrificial, and fine a man as he may have been, and appears to be (now departed), as religious as he may have been, a Bible believer as he appeared to be, I also believe that Ron Wyatt, was in delusion. I think that to whatever extent, Ron got to believing his own lies, the deceiver deceived, as is a common and inevitable course of mental deterioration. Liars are their own first and foremost victims, becoming crazed with their vain imaginations.
I don’t believe God speaks to men in such a manner as to mystically raise one’s arm and say something as Ron Wyatt claims. I don’t believe there are such phenomena recorded in the Scriptures (correct me if mistaken), not that God couldn’t do it or doesn’t make what we might call exceptions, and I’ve never experienced such communication from the Lord in my walk with Him. However, there’s plenty of this sort of sensationalism and mysticism as Wyatt’s coming forth from false teachers. The Bible calls them what frauds are quite capable of: “signs and lying wonders” (2 Thessalonians 2:3-9).
Don’t get me wrong. God does speak to men. His sheep hear His Voice. That’s what the Bible is all about – God among men, communicating to and by them. He performs miracles and gives revelation. Such things are a daily occurrence with true believers in the Lord Jesus Christ. And He can and will speak to whom and when He wills. These things are most certainly true. But He calls them out of the religious systems of men. He will not share His Glory with any other gods.
For example, God calls His servants out of harlot religion, out of men’s works before He chooses and ordains them. You’ll not find one prophet, disciple, or apostle sent to work a work of God while within men’s systems of formal, organized, nominal, religious worship. It didn’t happen in the Scriptures, and I’m not aware it has ever happened in the history of Christ’s Body made without hands. Not only have I not heard of it, but my experience is also that He doesn’t work that way. He called me out of organized religion to serve Hm undefiled and unhindered.
Let me clarify: I’m not saying that people within men’s churches and systems of works haven’t heard the Lord’s Voice and received spiritual gifts and revelations.
I’m not denying that He has performed miracles for many in the systems of men before ever calling them out from among them to be separated to fellowship with Him and committed to His Work.
I’m not denying that He has provided for all men, both believers and unbelievers, and saved them from tragedy, or done many good things for them. As the Scriptures declare, God is no respecter of persons. He often sends the sun and rain to provide for and bless both the righteous and the wicked, the faithful and unfaithful. He is merciful to the wicked as He sees fit. The Bible amply declares all these things.
But nowhere does God take full responsibility for the soul not wholly committed to Him. You’re either in or you’re out; you can’t have it both ways.
Ron Wyatt was a Seventh Day Adventist, one of the multitudinous erring organizations full of error in doctrine and practice, and full of blasphemy. They even believe Jesus was not the Divine Son of God. People who deny Christ’s Divinity, that He is Lord of lords, are not privileged or qualified to represent Him in any way. (See our writings on SDAs – https://www.thepathoftruth.com/falsehood-exposed/sda/index.htm)
Ron Wyatt solicited donations to do his work. You don’t find that in the Bible. If it was God’s work, he wouldn’t have any need to beg men for financial provision. People would have freely given if it was God’s will for them to do so.
Furthermore, of all the claims Wyatt has made, he has provided no proof, no evidence, and there are no second or third witnesses. If anyone were to pursue any of the claims Ron made, he would come to a dead end, be it the blood he claims to have found and had tested, the Israeli authorities he spoke to, the labs he claimed to speak with, the Temple furniture he claims to have seen, and so forth. All fiction.
I find Danny Shelton’s testimony against Ron Wyatt that Alan Agnew provided to be credible, though any man can lie and appear very credible.
Yes, Wyatt perished as do many ungodly people. He died of a terrible disease. If he was a man of God living out his days in faith, this wouldn’t have happened.
Ron Wyatt claims that Christ’s blood entered the earthly tabernacle, but what does the Word of God say? Surely, the Scriptures Alan Agnew provided in his correspondence to me are true:
Hebrews 9:24 (WEB) For Christ hath not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us….
NOTE: If anyone were to find me perishing of some loathsome disease or freak accident or violent death, don’t blame God, don’t condemn the claims of the Scriptures, or conclude that I erred in this doctrine. Find fault with me, instead. I will have perished because of sin. Disobedience or unbelief will have taken me out. You needn’t be true to Victor as to God. You need to believe in and be true to the Lord Jesus Christ and Him Only.
Now, here’s what Alan Agnew and I had to say to one another as he awaited an answer from me:
Good evening, Victor! This video is a great story, but I asked the Lord Jesus Christ if it was true. So here’s what He gave:
I went to https://www.wyattmuseum.com/arkofthecovenant.htm and red: “AT THIS TIME, WYATT ARCHAEOLOGICAL RESEARCH CAN PROVIDE NO CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE REGARDING THE DISCOVERY OF THE ARK OF THE COVENANT.“
Well, that’s a problem. I wanted reports about this blood sample he found, and I wanted eyewitnesses and video or photos of this golden ark he saw. But I haven’t found one. Does anyone have one? Victor, you taught that people can make stuff up about things like answered prayers, and that’s why second witnesses are needed.
In fact, I discovered that Ron died of cancer, or complications from it. It’s a mark of sin, though I wasn’t sure what he did.
Danny Shelton testifies that Ron was doing funny business with this supposed Ark of the Covenant. Examples: Forged signature on a contract, not buying the special equipment Ron that he said he would, Ron threatening to hit Harold because Harold wanted to go into a hole to see the Ark. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KHoSZryjY0&t=1188s
My (V’s) insertion of intro to the link immediately above: Watch Dr Colin Standish (Hartland Institute) interview with Danny Shelton (3ABN) who gives his testimony of an invitation from Ron Wyatt to exclusively film the Ark of the Covenant in Jerusalem. Video link to summary of interview Ron Wyatt’s Ark of the Covenant a Fraud (2) https://youtu.be/9aqeTzAPdac
And Harold testified that he saw nothing but a rock room with nothing but walls when he went into the hole. There was nothing there. No tunnels, only eon old rock walls, and certainly no Ark.
With that, I feel satisfied that the Lord at least revealed to me that there is no proof Ron Wyatt even saw the Ark of the Covenant. Maybe someone will come along and show the proof, but I haven’t seen it yet, and maybe Danny’s right that Ron made it up.
What do you think, Victor?
Good! I tend to believe this Danny Shelton.
One thing off the top. You say:
“In fact, I discovered that Ron died of cancer, or complications from it. It’s a mark of sin, though I wasn’t sure what he did.”
Josiah, a righteous king, died a tragic death. Does that mean all that he had done was phony?
Solomon fell to idolatry. Does that mean the Temple he built was a fake?
David committed adultery and murder. Does that mean all his wars and victories were evil?
I can go on. You are so prone to false conclusions yourself, yet you are quick to condemn others. Is that good?
Can you say that what you received for an answer to your prayer was the Lord speaking to you? Could be; maybe not. “There’s no proof” isn’t the typical Word of the Lord reply, though He will speak in mysteries and parables and not directly.
Your requests for unavailable proof and verification aren’t necessarily proofs themselves, are they?
What do you think, Alan?
I believe the Lord led me to what I needed to read and watch for your sake. It’s like I watched my friend get possibly deceived by a car salesman and I tell him, “Well, consider X, Y… Are you sure about this?”
Did the Lord speak to me? I didn’t hear anything. Could be that the Lord gave me the truth already, but it could also be that we have yet to find it and are on the road to it in this matter.
Yes, he died of cancer, but I did note that I wasn’t sure what he did. It may be because he lied about this discovery, or some thing else. I noted it in case some revelation or information came up later to make the conclusion sure. I did not condemn him in this matter about the Ark regarding the cancer.
Yet it is not good to quickly give false conclusions. It is embarrassing in public to do that. That’s kind of why I messaged you and Marilyn first about this and about Moses and the “Ethiopian” instead of a public comment. I think you help me slow down and reconsider.
And no, the lack of proof of the Ark of the Covenant does not prove Ron a liar. I concluded there was no proof because the Wyatt Museum did not even prove it.
The last sentences in my E-mail hope for someone to prove Ron in this or wonder if we should conclude he lied. The Wyatt Museum did not provide the proof, so I see no reason to believe Ron’s single testimony. Though, I keep a hope open that someone may have that proof (because a lack is not a proof, as you said). And if Danny’s right, there is no proof of the Ark anyway.
Excellent position. I believe Alan heard from the Lord, the first time for him that I’ve known it to happen in the years I’ve known him, and he stood by it. He added:
Well, actually, I was hearing some things.
As soon as Lynn spoke about the video to me, I heard this verse: Jeremiah 3:16 KJV:
“And it shall come to pass, when ye be multiplied and increased in the land, in those days, saith the LORD, they shall say no more, The ark of the covenant of the LORD: neither shall it come to mind: neither shall they remember it; neither shall they visit it; neither shall that be done any more.”
I thought, “Now I am skeptical, should I be? Did Ron actually find it?”
Alan followed up with another note:
I thought to ask the Lord if Ron made up the story of the Ark of the Covenant, so I asked the Lord today. He told me, “Yes.” And I was at peace until I started second guessing what I heard. But, I had to commit to believing one way or the other, and once I believed, it helped.
I remain curious if others will ask on their own or receive from the Lord.
Victor: I’m curious, as well.
Good morning, Victor!
There has been some interest among the TPOT Telegram in why you shared “The Ark And The Blood – Ron Wyatt’s Discovery of the Ark of the Covenant.” Isaiah Dillard believes your answers would be for me and others.
Would you like to tell us why you shared it?
And do you believe that Ron made up the story about the Ark of the Covenant?
Alan Agnew[On] Ron [Wyatt]
I talked on a general chat with other TPOTers. They were left not knowing what to think after we talked about the Ron Wyatt alleged find. The points I received to challenge Ron were not proven wrong. For example, could Jesus mix Passover and Yom Kippur? Yeah, I suppose, but I don’t believe He would. Twenty something chromosomes in Jesus and not all like a human would have? No one touched that.
Another excellent point Alan makes: It was only once a year, in the Feast of Tabernacles, on the Day of Atonement, the 10th day of the 7th month, and never on Passover, that the High Priest sprinkled the blood of the slain goat on the Mercy Seat, the cover of the Ark of the Covenant. Why would God have the Ark sprinkled with His Son’s blood at Passover? Had the High Priest, who represented God before Israel and Israel before God, done that, God would have slain him on the spot because he was directed only once a year to enter the Holy of Holies, no exception.
A thought worthy of consideration: The blood sprinkled on the Mercy Seat once a year on the Day of Atonement was the blood of a goat. Why a goat? Jesus is the Lamb of God, “slain before the foundation of the world.” Why a lamb? Lambs and not goats were slain at Passover. Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t believe Jesus was ever referred to as a goat, although goats are clean and were offered as sacrifices to God.
The Day of Atonement called for two male goats, not lambs for that purpose. One goat was slain and one was left alive to take away the sins of Israel (Leviticus 16):
16:21: “Aaron shall lay both his hands upon the head of the live goat and confess over it all the iniquities and transgressions of the Israelites, whatever their sins, putting them on the head of the goat; and it shall be sent off to the wilderness through a designated man.”
Alan goes on:
It is strange, new… I have not seen my friends like that before. They always were on point in TPOT comments, never left not knowing what to think. And Lynn also doesn’t know what to think about my hearing from God.
It is strange for me too… You taught me to get it from Him. So He gives the truth to me, and everyone’s perplexed.
But I am left happy and at peace. Blessed be the Lord Jesus Christ, Creator of All, for His Wisdom and Help.
Goodnight! I was just thinking, “Am I crazy, Lord, to not believe Your Blood fell on a Mercy Seat that Israel made?” So I red some articles, saw Hebrews 9, and I red the whole chapter. I saw Hebrews 9:24 and was glad to find it:
Hebrews 9:24 (WEB) For Christ hath not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:
So, there is no way His Blood fell on the Ark of the Covenant. He never entered such a place as the verse says. His Goal is a much higher Goal.
This E-mail is a sample of things the Lord would quicken to me throughout the week. And I would think, “Is this not happening with others? This is interesting, but weird… or are my friends not even asking the Lord about these things?”
Because of silence at my end for several days (even until now), Alan wrote:
Good Sabbath, Victor!
I’m not sure what to infer about how you feel towards me, so I ask you, “Are you angry with me, are you unsure what to think, or are we good? What’s happening?”
So, there you have it, everyone. Examine yourselves, examine me, and ask God’s wisdom for it all, as Alan did.
Alan has had a long history of hearing bizarre voices, all demonic and carnal imaginations. He had to repent and come through all that in obedience to a place of faith in the True God. This time, with trial from several directions, I believe he heard directly from God on this matter. God gave Him the Scriptures, ones that speak the Truth to this Wyatt episode. I’ll repeat one here because of its great relevance and importance to this issue:
“And it shall come to pass, when you are multiplied and increased in the land, in those days, says the LORD, they shall say no more, The ark of the covenant of the LORD: neither shall it come to mind: neither shall they remember it; neither shall they visit it; neither shall that be done anymore.” (Jeremiah 3:16)
I believe it was also the Lord Who answered “Yes,” to Alan’s question and gave him the faith and strength to hang on tight to what he was given, no matter what I might say or not say. His trust needed to be in the Lord directly. And so does yours and mine. God is no respecter of persons.
As with most Scriptures, there are various interpretations of the words. My understanding of that passage of Jeremiah 3:16 is that they speak in simple terms as well as in spiritual significance. There will be no discovery of the ancient Ark. “Old things are passed away, behold all things have become new.”
This testimony alone can mean there will be no established third Temple, priesthood, and animal sacrifice as planned. “Established,” I say because it may likely be built but I believe that after Israel and the nations have been duly deceived, God’s Wrath will be poured out on this presumptuous and religious architectural piece of blasphemy and systems with a carnal priesthood and animal sacrifices reinstated, which calls God a liar.
Surely, the Scriptures are true:
Hebrews 9:24 (WEB) For Christ hath not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us….
So, now this event begs the questions:
Why did I, without explanation or judgment, post Wyatt’s claim to have found the Ark of the Covenant? Only because I thought it was true? Could be.
Was I foolish in doing so? Could be.
Was I out of line with God or faltering before Him? Could be!
Should I have waited until I knew for sure whether Wyatt’s story was true or not? Could be.
Did I or God do this to try you all? Could be.
Surely, it seems I’ve stirred up some controversy and confusion, doesn’t it? I certainly feel like I’ve goofed. Has it been my turn for correction and humbling?
Didn’t God use the late-coming apostle Paul to rebuke one of the earliest of apostles, Peter, publicly for Peter’s hypocrisy (Galatians 2:11&f)?
Wasn’t Samuel as a young child used to rebuke Eli the High Priest of Israel and prophesy of his coming judgment (1 Samuel 3:11&f)?
These are questions you may be wise to ask and judge for yourselves.
Some responses to the initial video:
Sabine Smit said:
Ron Wyatt discovering the ark brought me to tears and is really deepening my faith, thank you for sharing. These confirmations will grow and grow in a bigger and bigger way, won’t they? The Lord and what He has done and is doing is awe inspiringly beautiful.
The Lord bless you, V
Michael Lash said:
Interesting you send this Victor, I’ve been pouring over Ron Wyatt’s work lately, it’s just incredible, and leaves you speechless. I hadn’t seen this one but it was really well done. I love his reply to people who say one man couldn’t possibly find all these things, he agreed and said that was proof God did it.
May Hajjar said:
Thank you Before the stroke my husband Fadi and our two oldest children went with Wyatt archaeological research to Israel to Hezekiah’s Cove in Jeremiah’s grotto to help excavate for the ark of the covenant in 2004 I believe! We had the blessing and opportunity to call and speak with Ron Wyatt shortly before he was bedridden. He sounded exhausted but filled with grace and peace God bless you
Some additional responses to Victor’s follow up email:
Michael Condit said:
If I’m not mistaken, this also serves as a reminder to all of us to Look to Him, in all matters. I know I so easily get focused on the externals and get myself wrapped up in worries, concerns, being right, not making mistakes, etc.
If we look to Him, all is well. If we look to Him, He provides the way, the answers and the means.
I believe this all happened by design, of course it did.
In regards to the questions Victor Hafichuk poses at the end:
From what I can tell, I don’t believe this is a faltering. This is an example of what being His vessel looks like. Something that I know I personally needed to see. Victors ego wasn’t in the way about being wrong, he wasn’t trying to push anything, as far as I know. He was simply sharing something The Lord made him to share and Victor trusted The Lord to have the final say with it all. The Lord wanted to accomplish what He wanted to accomplish through it.
Look at the fruit of it all. A falsehood revealed, lessons learned(at least for me), Alan was strengthened in his faith. God demonstrated His sovereignty over all of this. From something as simple as a video. Incredible if you ask me. Maybe I’m being a bit over zealous here and drawing wrong conclusions, but I don’t think so. It’s fascinating.
I can personally say that in this matter, I did not really care about the video. I just didn’t have too much of an interest in it. But I never asked The Lord, if this was important to Him. If it’s something He cared about, then I should have cared about it too. A lack of care is something He has been bringing to my attention, giving me grace to fix. A lesson learned here for sure.
The Lord is certainly over everything, no matter how big or small we may think it to be.
Stephen Beiler said:
I appreciate what was shared concerning the “Wyatt Video”. While listening to it I found it very compelling and even catching, emotionally. I didn’t question whether it’s true or not and didn’t ask The Lord. I believed you would not have shared it if it weren’t true. Does that mean I’m trusting man and not The Lord? I don’t know, but I’ve asked Him and I believe He will make it known.
My thought was that it’s not important to know whether the video is true or not. But that The Lord Jesus Christ shed His Blood for all men, that I know. But I believe, after reading the email, that it is important to know. I appreciate the exchange between you and Alan and also what you shared. Thank you for taking time to respond
Thank You Lord!
Brad Currin said:
Thanks for the clarity of the matter, Victor.