A Fantastic Dream
Ken Peters is a false teacher who burst onto the scene with a story of an amazing dream and supernatural experience preceding his coming to believe and presumably minister the Gospel of Christ. His experience became his credential, swaying the ignorant impressionable and those unlearned in the ways of the Lord, which ways are enumerated here for the sake of all truth seekers.
Paul’s reply to an inquiry:
You ask about Ken Peters’ Tribulation dream. There’s nothing to it – pay it no mind whatsoever.
Well to be honest I noticed a lot of detailed things that happened with Ken Peters dream. Considering he had the dream a while ago he saw people being recorded while watching television which could be considered to be the modern day cable boxes that are supposed to record/take pictures of people while they are watching television in order to survey people.
The tattoo that he speaks of people receiving could be linked to the Revelation 13 "mark." I don’t think it is the RFID chip because people have already taken it in the hand and the Bible speaks of an angel warning people what will happen if they take the mark.
Over time I have "taken apart" things that people claim in order to find proof for them being right or wrong. The two above claims are what Ken spoke of back then and they seem to be relevant now.
Peters’ dream is altogether garbage, Mike, in case that wasn’t clear in my last email, which means it has no merit or meaning that’s worth contemplating.
Also, your considerations of possible meaning are carnal and ungodly, bearing no relationship to the true meaning of Revelation 13 or other Scriptures. The mark of the beast has been with mankind all along – it isn’t some special manifestation that only appeared when and where men are able to come up with sophisticated inventions. The Scriptures are applicable at all times, for all men. The mark is universal; a matter of nature. Read The Mark of the Beast and the Seal of God for applicable and beneficial truth.
Mike asks again:
I know what you believe about Ken Peters, but judge this. He had the dream in 1980 and spoke about it probably ten years ago. Watch the clip fully and you will see that it is very similar. Also, I didn’t notice a false teachers page for Ken Peters on your website.
Would you consider proving everything he says wrong like you did with other people using logic, Bible verses, research, etc.
How is it possible for anyone to have visions/dreams of Jesus if they are still alive and have never died?
Does it mean a spiritual death and not a physical one?
“And He said, You cannot see My face. For there no man can see Me and live” (Exodus 33:20 MKJV).
Mike, concerning Ken Peters, there are various explanations for what he testifies.
He could be deliberately lying, which we don’t believe he is.
He could be understanding things intellectually, which could explain his dream, in that dreams are often an expression of what we’ve been experiencing, thinking, imagining and sensing. Ken testifies of speaking to an electronic engineer who said some things he saw were scientifically and logically possible. They’ve known these things for decades or have at least been able to speculate on the potentialities. But we don’t believe this to be the case with Ken, either.
It’s possible God was showing Ken these things. I find many things Ken speaking to be reasonable, possible, and apparently in agreement with the Scriptures. However, Satan knows very much and uses his knowledge of Heaven to deceive, if it were possible, the very elect (Matthew 24:22). Ken wasn’t seeing things from the Lord. A seducing spirit was sent to deceive him. The Bible speaks of familiar spirits and spirits of divination, which know things that are true and wondrous to us.
Why would God choose a sinner, an unregenerate person on whom is His wrath, in order to reveal anything to him to be preached to others?
“He who believes on the Son has everlasting life, and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides upon him” (John 3:36 MKJV).
I have never known revelation to be given a man while in sin to be preached to others in the future. Revelation to, and wrath of God on, a deliberate and active sinner never come together, except to bring him to repentance. Neither is an example of any such thing found in Scripture that we’re aware of.
When the Lord appeared to me in my unregenerate (unsaved) state, He said nothing to me, yet it was a great mercy and encouragement within. The knowledge conveyed in my dream was spiritual, food from the Tree of Life; it wasn’t about a physical tribulation or sensational events to come. And I was searching, whereas Ken describes himself as a wild man, with no use for God or man. There are so many signs of falsehood about Ken and his testimony.
Did the Jesus who appeared to Ken ever identify himself? Yes, they say we recognize everyone without words or ID, but I’ve also heard where evil messengers appear impersonating the Lord and don’t identify themselves. How will a man given over to sin recognize and know the Lord or distinguish an imposter from Him? And will those in sin and unbelief bow down and worship the Lord if they did see Him, as Ken states? Not according to the dream in which He appeared to me (Victor’s First Three Dreams from the Lord).
Why would God first speak to Ken of the tribulation period? Why wouldn’t He be turning Ken from his sin, even as He did all the other saints? God first confronted the prophets, apostles, Saul of Tarsus (Acts 9), Cornelius, and all others on their relationship to Him before He began to give them revelation for others. Ken’s experience is contrary to mine and to every testimony in the Scriptures of God preparing men to serve Him as ministers.
The things Ken preaches on the external tribulation don’t matter to us or to anyone else, though people think otherwise. Those things aren’t serving any worthwhile purpose. It’s the internal, spiritual tribulation that matters, because only by coming through this tribulation are we saved (“…confirming the souls of the disciples, calling on them to continue in the faith and that through much tribulation we must enter into the Kingdom of God” – Acts 14:22 MKJV).
And we know the Lord doesn’t frighten people into His Kingdom. He didn’t do that with Saul of Tarsus or any of the apostles. He simply arrested them by His appearance, love, and forgiveness. He did so with me (I was Catholic at the time). His love is the fuel that drives the process of salvation, as manifest by the cross He suffered for our sakes.
Is Ken trying to frighten anyone? What is Ken’s information accomplishing? When you think about it, his message glorifies him, not the Lord. He has zeal, but it’s a fleshly zeal, puffed up with knowledge and full of pride.
He speaks of choosing where to minister because American churches aren’t listening. Does a prophet of God make his own choices? Where will anyone find such a thing in Scripture?
He speaks of being kicked out of a denomination. Prophets of God aren’t cast out of denominations; they leave them of their own choice, readily understanding the filthiness and anti-Christ nature of such institutions. Indeed, until one comes out from among these corrupt works of men and is trained up in the way of God, he isn’t prepared for any ministry of Christ. Ken’s claim to being a prophet of God is altogether bogus and anti-Christ.
No prophet of God would ever call Jimmy Swaggart a brother, or would say the saints aren’t called to judge others, all things Ken says in the video about his dream. Ken is in contradiction and confusion. How can we identify false brethren or recover one in sin if we don’t judge righteous judgment? How can Ken identify Swaggart as the Lord’s? But Ken never was the Lord’s, just like Swaggart never has been, so they are indeed brothers in delusion and their presumption of serving God.
Prophets of God don’t give false prophecies as Ken does. In one, for example, he talks about many thousands of people dying from an earthquake in the U.S. in 2005. Never happened. He falsely implies that if believers pray together, martyrdom will be avoided, as with Peter in Acts 12:5. Peter, however, was later martyred, not because the other believers weren’t praying for him, but because God willed to glorify Himself that way.
“‘Truly, truly, I say to you, When you were young, you girded yourself and walked where you wished. But when you grow old, you shall stretch forth your hands and another shall gird you and carry you where you do not wish.’ He spoke this signifying by what death he should glorify God” (John 21:18-19 MKJV).
We could go on and on; Ken’s presentations are laced with error. His site is full of false doctrine and practice, just like so many other religious works.
Men of God stand far apart from the works of men, the paths of the destroyer:
“Concerning the works of men, by the Words of Your lips, I am kept from the paths of the destroyer” (Psalms 17:4 MKJV).
As to the verse of seeing God and not living, when I saw Jesus Christ in the dream of 1972, I can assure you my life was never the same again, and that was only a dream. The day I saw Him, my world as I knew it ended; I died. I doubt anyone would survive if they saw the Lord firsthand in His great glory and splendor.
Read Seeing God and Living.
You need to die, Mike. It’s your only answer. The problem is, you can’t put yourself on the cross. It must be arranged from above.