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From: Brian
To: The Path of Truth
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 11:56 PM
Subject: False teachers

Where you wrote, “No person rightfully takes upon himself the role of a teacher or any other ministry of God without God’s power and authority”.  I was wondering by what authority you proclaim all these other teachers to be false? Didn’t they claim to receive the same power authority through the same administration as you? 

Thanks

Brian

From: Paul Cohen and Victor Hafichuk
To: Brian
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: False Teachers

I was wondering by what authority you proclaim all these other teachers to be false?

By the authority of the Lord Jesus Christ, backed by His Spirit and the testimony of the Scriptures given in every posting. But if you don’t receive His testimony, you won’t receive ours either. You will, however, receive the testimony of those who represent themselves while using His Name deceitfully. 

“I have come in My Father’s Name, and you do not receive Me. If another shall come in his own name, him you will receive. How can you believe, you who receive honor from one another and do not seek the honor that comes from God only?” (John 5:43-44 MKJV)

“If anyone desires to do His will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it is of God, or I speak from Myself. He who speaks of himself seeks his own glory, but he who seeks the glory of Him Who sent Him is true, and no unrighteousness is in Him” (John 7:17-18 MKJV).

Paul Cohen & Victor Hafichuk

www.ThePathofTruth.com

From: Brian
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 12:12 PM
Subject: RE: False Teachers

Alright, but yours is a self-proclaimed authority just like all the others. An Appalachian snake dancing preacher has your same authority when he quotes Mark 16:18. Or a Lutheran minister as he recites Mark 16:16 to defend baptismal regeneration. It just seems all  of you are convinced in your own minds that your right and everybody else is wrong. That’s what builds up walls and steeples between all the differences. So again, they all repeat your same claim to authority, by can you give any evidence that is without doubt? For Jesus was always giving evidence to prove His teachings. Even showing His risen body to over 500 witnesses.  If you claim to speak for him, shouldn’t you also have some sort of evidence? Doesn’t a police officer have the visible marks to prove himself as an authority when he yells “stop” to someone.  What are your visible marks? 

From: Paul and Victor
To: Brian
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 7:16 AM
Subject: Re[3]: False Teachers

1 Corinthians 1:17-25 MKJV

(17)  For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the Gospel; not in wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of no effect.
(18)  For the preaching of the cross is foolishness to those being lost, but to us being saved, it is the power of God.
(19)  For it is written, “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and I will set aside the understanding of the perceiving ones.”
(20)  Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the lawyer of this world? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
(21)  For since, in the wisdom of God, the world by wisdom did not know God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save those who believe.
(22)  For the Jews ask for a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom;
(23)  but we preach Christ crucified, to the Jews a stumbling block, and to the Greeks foolishness.
(24)  But to them, the called-out ones, both Jews and Greeks, Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God.
(25)  Because the foolish thing of God is wiser than men, and the weak thing of God is stronger than men.

Despite Jesus’ reputation, the Jews demanded He too prove to them the authority by which He condemned their ways:

“And they came again to Jerusalem. And as He was walking in the temple, the chief priests and the scribes and the elders came to Him and said to Him, By what authority do you do these things? And who gave you this authority to do these things” (Mark 11:27-28 MKJV).

Some believe without signs or wonders and some don’t believe even if the dead are raised up before their eyes:

“Then many of the Jews who came to Mary, and had seen the things which Jesus did, believed on Him. But some of them went to the Pharisees and told them what Jesus had done” (John 11:45-46 MKJV). 

When you aren’t His sheep, you simply don’t believe and can’t hear:

John 10:24-27 MKJV

(24)  Then the Jews encircled Him and said to Him, How long do you make us doubt? If you are the Christ, tell us plainly.
(25)  Jesus answered them, I told you and you did not believe. The works that I do in My Father’s Name, they bear witness of Me.
(26)  But you did not believe because you are not of My sheep. As I said to you,
(27)  My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.

Paul and Victor

From: Brian
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 3:14 PM
Subject: RE: Re[3]: False Teachers

Jesus always provided the evidence, some believed through faith and some did not. And with some, no matter the evidence, they would not believe and he rebukes them. So let’s get back to my original request. You wrote on your website, “ No person rightfully takes upon himself the role of a teacher or any other ministry of God without God’s power and authority”.   What is the “rightful way” of taking the role of teacher. Secondly, in what visible sign do you demonstrate your authority to interpret the Scriptures any differently than the Appalachian snake dancer or the Lutheran infant dunker? 

From: Paul and Victor
To: Brian
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 7:04 AM
Subject: Re[5]: False Teachers

What is the ‘rightful way’ of taking the role of teacher?

We never said or implied there was a rightful way. Teachers from God are made and sent by Him, not men. 

“No one takes this honor for himself. Instead, God calls him as He called Aaron” (Hebrews 5:4 GW).

As for a sign: 

“A wicked and adulterous generation seeks after a sign. And there shall no sign be given to it, except the sign of the prophet Jonah. And He left them and went away” (Matthew 16:4 MKJV).

And with some, no matter the evidence, they would not believe and he rebukes them.” You said it.

Paul and Victor

From: Brian
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 1:57 PM
Subject: RE: Re[5]: False Teachers

I’m still lost in your claim, “No person rightfully takes upon himself the role of a teacher or any other ministry of God without God’s power and authority”. The Lutheran infant dunker and the Appalachian snake dancer, as well as yourself, would all claim to rightfully act in God’s power and authority. Yet, your individual teachings do not agree. 

It seems that God would have a “way” to distinguish His power and authority that is both rightful and visible from those who “takes this honor for himself”.  For God in becoming flesh, did so in part to put an end to every false way.  In Acts 16, I came across the following verse, “And as they went through the cities, they delivered them the decrees for to keep, that were ordained of the apostles and elders which were at Jerusalem.”  Isn’t the “rightful way” established through unity? And secondly, isn’t that unity made visible through a human authority? 

Also, where you added, “A wicked and adulterous generation seeks after a sign”.  Yet, God enfleshed was a sign for humanity. For doesn’t the opening chapter of 1 John confirm “For the life was manifested, and we have seen it”.  And again, “but a body hast thou prepared me”.  Again, Jesus is not rebuking their seeking after sign. Or He would had never became man to show man; “For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily”.  Rather, He is rebuking man’s blindness even in the light of God’s face.  

So again, in what way do you distinguish your teaching authority any differently than the Lutheran infant dunker or the Appalachian snake dancer? For all of you have followers who are convinced in their own mind that each of their teachers speak for God. 

Brian

From: Paul and Victor
To: Brian
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2016 7:09 AM
Subject: Re[7]: False Teachers

Yet, God enfleshed was a sign for humanity.

Not quite, Brian. Jesus Christ “enfleshed” is a sign for humanity. He isn’t just “was,” He IS. He is here now, in us, and you don’t acknowledge or confess Him. 

“And every spirit that confesses not that Jesus Christ IS come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of anti-Christ, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world” (1 John 4:3 KJV).

“For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ IS come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an anti-Christ” (2 John 1:7 KJV).

You’re anti-Christ. Of course you can’t tell the difference between sons of God and “Lutheran infant dunkers and Appalachian snake dancers.” You’re deaf and blind in your sin and stalwart opposition to God. 

As the man of sin, you automatically have things backwards. The “rightful way” isn’t established through unity, as if men can agree and accomplish the will of God. The “rightful way” is established by the Lord, Whose sheep that follow Him receive it and thereby have agreement with one another. 

So yes, the pure in heart will and do see God. But not the impure in heart who worship the creature rather than the Creator. All you see is your own corruption, which as a liar and hypocrite you conveniently pin on others. 

There is one thing you got right. You say of Jesus Christ: “He is rebuking man’s blindness even in the light of God’s face.

Indeed He is. 

Paul & Victor  

From: Brian
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 9:47 AM
Subject: RE: Re[7]: False Teachers

When analyzing your style of commentary, you attempt to win over others by raising your own self up as some sort of an authority and charging everyone else that does not agree with your positions as an  anti-Christ. Although their authority is equally substantiated as your own.  And you do this by looking for a word here or there and stretching it’s significance to boaster your own deception.  While I wrote the Son in the flesh “was” a “sign”.   I never implied that He still “isn’t”.  For example, if I state that “the house was cleaned yesterday”, my words do not suggest that the same house isn’t clean today.

If the Son enfleshed is a sign, then where is your sign? What visibility do you show of an indwelling of the Holy Spirit? While you’re correct,  “the rightful way” is established by the Lord”, biblically the visible unity still existed through the visible human authority united with the Holy Spirit over the whole Church. (Acts 15:28 – “It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us”) and (Acts:15:31 – “Which when they had read, they rejoiced for the consolation”) and (Acts 16:4 “And as they went through the cities, they delivered them the decrees for to keep, that were ordained of the apostles and elders which were at Jerusalem.”) 

Was the Antioch Church “worshipping the creature” when they obeyed the doctrine that was delivered to them by the visible human authority over the whole Church?

From: Paul and Victor
To: Brian
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 7:21 AM
Subject: Re[9]: False Teachers

John 10:25-30 MKJV

(25)  Jesus answered them, I told you and you did not believe. The works that I do in My Father’s Name, they bear witness of Me.
(26)  But you did not believe because you are not of My sheep. As I said to you,
(27)  My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.
(28)  And I give to them eternal life, and they shall never ever perish, and not anyone shall pluck them out of My hand.
(29)  My Father Who gave them to me is greater than all, and no one is able to pluck them out of My Father’s hand.
(30)  I and the Father are one!

We and the Lord are one, Brian, and you don’t hear us and observe His teaching because you aren’t His sheep. 

Paul and Victor

From: Brian
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 4:59 PM
Subject: RE: Re[9]: False Teachers

All self-appointed apologist revert to John 10:25-30 when they have no visible authority. They all say that they are one with Christ and charge everyone else who does not share their particular biblical interpretations as not being Jesus’ sheep. They ignore Jesus’ own words in the text where He said, “they bear witness of me”.  They claim the unity, but leave the evidence undone. 

In the example from Acts 15, the Antioch Church gave evidence that they were one with Christ when they obeyed the visible human authority whom God had set over the whole Church to speak for Him.  In unity with those whom God had appointed over the Church they gave witness their oneness with Jesus and His Father. And through following the decision of the Jerusalem council, the evil one was not able to pluck them out of the Shepherd’s hand.  But you don’t have any such unity with God, else you would show the same sign. 

So again, where is your evidence that you are one of His sheep?

Brian 

From: Paul and Victor
To: Brian
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 7:05 AM
Subject: Re[11]: False Teachers

All self-appointed apologist revert to John 10:25-30 when they have no visible authority.

Although no one has ever used John 10:25-30 words to establish their authority in our hearing, even if what you said is true about self-appointed apologists, it doesn’t mean these Scriptures can’t be legitimately cited by those in Christ. You’ve proven nothing with your self-serving, circular logic. 

And your example of those at Antioch only proves that those who believe will receive the teachings and testimony of God’s servants without signs, while those who don’t believe won’t receive them. You’re among those who don’t believe, which we’ve told you from the beginning. Simple enough. 

You can see from testimonies like the following that there are those who believe what the Lord has given us: 

https://www.thepathoftruth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=690

So go your way, Brian, as you insist. We’re finished talking to you. 

Paul & Victor

From: Brian
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 8:47 AM
Subject: RE: Re[11]: False Teachers

Rather, because I show the sign of unity, as Jesus showed the sign of unity with the Father, and as the Apostles and Elders with the Holy Spirit at the Jerusalem Council, I do give evidence that I am one with the whole, just as the Antioch Church. You have no such sign, no unity, no authority. Jesus started a visible Church. That visible Church has continued throughout the ages. You have started your own. As the many who came before you and come even today to erect their own church steeples.

The Appalachian snake dancing preacher has testimonies. Joseph Smith has a testimony. So does Ellen White, Jim Jones, and Billy Graham. Your own are only birds of a similar feather.

Stop disbelieving, but believe the Gospel and repent.

Brian

From: Paul and Victor
To: Brian
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 7:16 AM
Subject: Re[13]: False Teachers

John 4:21-24 MKJV

(21)  Jesus said to her, Woman, believe Me, the hour is coming when you shall neither worship the Father in this mountain nor yet at Jerusalem.
(22)  You worship what you do not know, we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews.
(23)  But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers shall worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father seeks such to worship Him.
(24)  God is a spirit, and they who worship Him must worship in spirit and in truth.

You’re a liar and blasphemer, Brian, you and your visible church. Not only are we finished with you, but you’re finished, along with your church. Thus says the Lord Jesus Christ.

The Lord rebuke you, Satan! 

Paul and Victor

From: Brian
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 6:21 PM
Subject: RE: Re[13]: False Teachers

To worship in Spirit and truth is never set against reason. It’s reasonable to assume a police officer has the right to demand obedience to the law when he displays the marks of authority.  He has an uniform, a badge, a police car with sirens and lights, a visible lineage displayed to the civic whole of the community.  You do not have the authority to rebuke anyone, as you do not have any marks to distinguish any authority. Else you would obey the authority God has set over the Church as those Christians had obeyed within the Antioch Church. The devils do not listen to you. Rather they have fooled you into thinking that you speak for God. But you do not speak for God, rather you speak for yourself and do Satan’s will to make invisible again the God who became visible. And you do that by destroying His visible Church that has the marks and lineage to Him from the beginning.

Please be finished with me, but God’s true Church is never finished. As He has promised, “I am with you always, even unto the end of the world.”

Repent and believe the Gospel.

Brian

From: Victor Hafichuk
To: Brian
Cc: Paul Cohen
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 7:19 PM
Subject: Re[15]: False Teachers

“And when He had come into the temple, the chief priests and the elders of the people came to Him as He was teaching, and said, By what authority do you do these things? And who gave you this authority” (Matthew 21:23 MKJV).

Brian, you’re a lost, clueless Catholic, just as I was, full of sins I couldn’t handle, though I’d go to confession and communion and be sincere about it. I went to Mass weekly, served as an altar boy, sang lead tenor in our choir (Our Father), and served as president of our Youth club. I even attended a minor seminary for a year to test the waters for priesthood. 

I was earnest, but it wasn’t until Jesus Christ appeared to me apart from the Catholic Church and gave me to call on Him for salvation that He sent an evangelical man to share much Scriptures with me and prayed with me that Jesus would take over my life. 

Just like that, after all those years of struggle and torment as a Catholic, I was changed. Jesus Christ heard my prayer and delivered me of all my sins and fears… fornication, masturbation, smoking, adultery, drunkenness, lying, even exaggeration and more. He took away the burden of guilt and shame, of lack of purpose and direction. I was set free! 

That was in February of 1973. My family and friends mocked, saying, “That’s Victor, always on to something new (which was somewhat true) – and as with everything else, he won’t last with this, either.” Here I am, Brian, going on 44 years later and so thankful Jesus set me free to walk with Him, blessing me all the way.

And did it matter to family and friends that I was free of sin and no longer living like a damned fool? No, my sin to them was now heaped up in that I was no longer Catholic. While I was destroying myself as a Catholic, they were good with it, but then when Jesus Christ saved me by His precious blood sacrifice and I became a new creature, just as the Scriptures declare, well, that was anathema to them! Go figure! 

If my life since then is hell and delusion, I’ll take it in a heartbeat over what and where I was as a Catholic. If being Catholic is membership in God’s community, I will have nothing whatsoever to do with God. But I’m in Heaven with Him now, joyful and free from the tyranny of sin and of the Catholic Church. 

And you, Brian, as an angry and arrogant, self-righteous Catholic, are still in your sins. These things I know by Jesus Christ.

And don’t I have power over devils? Do you know? You might want to read the Scriptures and ask others what power I and the saints have that your priest exorcists presume to have and don’t. You may want to learn a few things before speaking so foolishly. 

You know you’re still bound in your sins, don’t you, Brian? Oh, but you have the Catholic Church and your delusional doctrine, don’t you! You’re baptized by a priest and nothing can ever erase that, right? Yes, you are superior, as you hold your penis in your hand and think evil thoughts and run around as the fornicator and adulterer you are, right? But, hey, that’s okay because, after all, you are Catholic, a member of an organization centuries old and 1.3 billion strong! Who could ask for more? What else matters?

I’ll tell you what’s missing and what matters with you and the Catholic Church. Jesus Christ is His Name. He’s nowhere to be found with you. 

No, Brian, it is YOU who needs to repent and believe the Gospel, and not I who have done so over 43 years ago, praise God Almighty! You are dead and perishing in your sins, and the Catholic Church is dead and finished, about to be, and now in process of, being wiped away, never to rear its ugly head again. The Kingdom of God has come and is now in process of being established on earth.

Victor

From: Brian
To: Victor and Paul
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: Re[15]: False Teachers

Victor, I found this in my junk mail. I’m sorry for the delay.

You have rightfully pegged me as a Catholic. I grew up Catholic, went to Catholic schools, did the altar boy thing, and then went my rebellious way in the teenage years. I partied with drugs, wine, and prostitutes till I was 29. I lost my wife, house, and children through divorce.  Afterwards, I had the same sort of conversion experience like you. I read the Scriptures day in and day out. Even slept with my arms wrapped the Bible like a woman for months. I learned of Jesus’ unexplainable love for humanity, His shed blood on the Cross, and began attending Bible-believing Church. Through Jesus Christ I was freed from drugs, alcohol, pornography. I threw away my rock-n-roll and replaced it with Christian music. I was remarried to a beautiful woman, and 22 years later we have six children together. I love Jesus Christ, He is my Lord and Savior, and from the Cross, He delivered me from the pit of hell. 

But there was still something wrong. I had a mother and a sister who were Baptists. Another sister who worshiped at the AoG, a brother who practiced messianic Christianity, (he just left for Jerusalem yesterday) and each of them had the same sort of conversion experience and deliverance from sin as you and me. We all are very passionate about our interpretations of the Bible. And our visiting for the holidays usually end with a fierce battle over Christian doctrine. 

In every Catholic Church, there is a Crucifix that displays Jesus’ great love for you. Like a picture in a children’s book alongside the text. What do you mean no one ever told you about Jesus? Didn’t you understand the picture?

Lastly, having retuned to my family heritage in Catholicism, I can name many of my brothers and sisters within the lineage of my Church. How about you? Can you name even one from the 2nd century, or 3rd? How about the 10th century? Do you have any history of your church dating back to the beginning? A line that makes faith rational?

Brian

From: Paul Cohen
To: Brian
Cc: Victor Hafichuk
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 7:34 AM
Subject: Re[17]: False Teachers

Brian, Paul here.

I am a Jew, raised along nominal conservative lines in religion, which means I went to synagogue but lived like most “normal” Americans. I recall as a child being in the house of devout Catholics and abhorring the crucifix and other obvious religious paraphernalia. My revulsion didn’t come from any religious indoctrination, but was the natural reaction of a child to monstrous idolatry.

When the Lord Jesus Christ revealed Himself to me, I was set free from the hopelessness of dead Judaism and also understood the revulsion I felt towards Catholic and all religious superstition and idolatry. The Lord kept me away from all of men’s religious works – bless His Name. 

A year and a half later I met Victor in Israel, and he related to me how the Lord brought him out of men’s religions, confirming the truth I had heard and learned of God. We had fellowship in the Truth, the Lord Jesus Christ, which wasn’t and never has been limited to what people see with the carnal eye. We have the fellowship you’ve never known and in your pagan idolatry, vehemently deny exists. 

“But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, to the general assembly and church of the first-born who are written in Heaven, and to God the judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, and to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel” (Hebrews 12:22-24 MKJV).

The True Marks of a CultReference to the “Church Fathers”

You are the dog returned to its vomit. 

Paul and Victor

From: Brian
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 5:55 PM
Subject: RE: Re[17]: False Teachers

Paul, Jesus became man, the visible image of the invisible God. In every place where it speaks of idolatry, false images were forbidden for no one had ever seen God. Thus Israel was prone to error, not only because of sin.  For any image that could be made in any form would not have led them astray, being a false god, and often did. A mother will forbid her children to snack before the meal, for eating will ruin the dinner she prepared had for them. Likewise, there was a plan in formation since the foundation of the world, till that time that God was revealed in human form.  We do not make images of the invisible God, but the God who visible through a body of a man. For it is written, “A body thou has prepared for me”.

As in a children’s book, where drawn images are laid out alongside the text for our learning the meaning of the words. So too the “Word” became a picture of God for our learning. The Holy Spirit using our human senses to understand the transcendent God.  And there is no greater image known to man than the “Word” stretched out on the Cross for the love of mankind. Where it was seen by many witnesses the “Word” dying for the sins of the world, and again in rising, Jesus showing many proofs of His conquering sin and death. These images we make in material form are the same images your mind forms when reading the Scriptures. For if you should read, “Jesus wept”, already your cognitive mind is at work drawing a picture of a man with tears for the story to come alive to your senses. And what can be drawn in the mind without sin, is no more sin if it’s drawn in the material in many art forms.  It’s only the devil who desires to keep hidden what God has revealed to man in Jesus Christ. Satan does this by twisting the first Commandment to his advantage, or in your case, I’m sure he also used your Jewish roots to keep you turned you away from the image of the love of God displayed upon the crucifix.

Iconoclasm is an old heresy.  I’m sorrowful that you found yourself holding to this falsehood. God incarnate is the greatest gift known to man. God has filled the world with Himself. Where He spoke creation into being, and creation was a witness to Him, how much more the God who became man.

As far as quoting from Hebrews 12, it impossible for you come to the blood of sprinkling, for you have yet any altar to eat from.  See: “We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle.”

Lastly, throughout history, false teachings have been defeated time and time again while using the Church Fathers as supporting evidence along with the Scriptures. When someone came along with a new teaching or two from the Scripture, contrary to teachings bound within the lineage of Church Fathers beforehand, it was often this visible line to Jesus Christ that helped refute them.  As I have written before, your Scripture interpretations are similar to the Appalachian church goer who dances with snakes for they are equally convinced of their standing for the Word of God. We, on the other hand, have a historical and evidential Church, where likewise, even as those who had seen Christ, could not deny.

A dog returns to his own vomit. If wine, women, and song was that vomit. I can tell you that not only have I not returned, but I despise it whole heartily in exchange for the love of God. And not only these sin, but in every thought and action that offends God. It is true, for the Apostle wrote it’s truth, “For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not burdensome.” These are not “works”, rather the grace of God working through love.

Brian

P.S. One last thing…

http://www.salvationisfromthejews.com/

From: Paul and Victor
To: Brian
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 6:45 AM
Subject: Re[19]: False Teachers

God incarnate is the greatest gift known to man.

What is the gift of God incarnate? Is it gazing at a lifeless and grotesque crucifix, or is it receiving Christ in the flesh (earthen vessels), having His life within?  You can’t have both, Brian, so you only have the former, which the Word of God condemns in no uncertain terms: 

Romans 1:20-24 MKJV

(20)  For the unseen things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being realized by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, for them to be without excuse.
(21)  Because, knowing God, they did not glorify Him as God, neither were thankful. But they became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
(22)  Professing to be wise, they became fools
(23)  and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man, and birds, and four-footed animals, and creeping things.
(24)  Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves.

And the Catholic Church is truly full of the most wicked and grossest kind of dishonoring of bodies, with priests molesting and buggering children. This is your mother of whom you’re so proud! 

But those who worship the Lord keep all His commandments. They don’t make images of things in Heaven or know Christ after the flesh, as you propose with your intricate and diabolical reasonings:

“So as we now know no one according to flesh, but even if we have known Christ according to flesh, yet now we no longer know Him so. So that if any one is in Christ, that one is a new creature; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new” (2 Corinthians 5:16-17 MKJV).

Old things haven’t passed away for you. Indeed, you now bow down to them in worship. You think the Catholic Church with its pagan priesthood, formulaic prayers, and idolatrous altars, is holy because it’s ancient. You mistake age for authority and might for right. 

As far as quoting from Hebrews 12, it impossible for you come to the blood of sprinkling, for you have yet any altar to eat from.  See: ‘We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle.’

Just what do the Scriptures from Hebrews have to say about the altar from which we (those who believe in the Risen Lord) eat? 

Hebrews 13:10-14 KJV

(10)  We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle.
(11)  For the bodies of those beasts, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned without the camp.
(12)  Wherefore Jesus also, that He might sanctify the people with His Own blood, suffered without the gate.
(13)  Let us go forth therefore unto Him without the camp, bearing His reproach.
(14)  For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come.

If the Catholic Church, with its headquarters in the Vatican City and worldwide franchise, isn’t a “continuing city,” then what is? But the Vatican and the Catholic Church are finished. In the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we declare it. 

A dog returns to his own vomit. If wine, women, and song was that vomit. I can tell you that not only have I not returned, but I despise it whole heartily in exchange for the love of God. And not only these sin, but in every thought and action that offends God.

That disgusting mother of whores, the Catholic Church, is the vomit to which you’ve returned. You now gladly lap up her abominations because God has given you over to the strongest of delusions. Your external piety is a flimsy covering for the vile sins beneath that He will expose, just as happened to your mother.

As for the Jew who converted to Catholicism, he’s gone from the frying pan of dead religion to the fire of superstitious blasphemy committed in the Name of God.   

God will have mercy on whom He will have mercy, and whom He wills, He hardens. He has hardened you for destruction, Brian.

Revelation 19:1-3 MKJV

(1)  And after these things I heard a great sound of a numerous crowd in Heaven, saying, Hallelujah! Salvation and glory and honor and the power to the Lord our God!
(2)  For true and righteous are His judgments. For He has judged the great harlot who defiled the earth with her fornication, and He has avenged the blood of His servants out of her hand.
(3)  And secondly they said, Hallelujah! And her smoke rose up forever and ever.

Paul and Victor

From: Brian
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 2:14 PM
Subject: RE: Re[19]: False Teachers

The gift of God incarnate has many attributes. One of them as we discussed earlier is the image of the true God in Christ embedded upon the human mind. When driving down the road at 100mph, the mind having been previously trained from images can process trees from telephone poles in a flicker. Just imagine how busy the senses and the mind are working together matching up the imagery. The transcendent God became man, visible to and for man, giving proofs of His divinity, showing many witnesses, and we now believe their testimony.

If we should also read their testimony of God dying for the sins of the world, and we should imagine this man Jesus upon the Cross, as grotesque as it must had been, bloodied from His scourging, the nails, and crown of thorns, even the piercing of His side, and all the imagery of man comes to mind to help form our understanding of His suffering and death, His great love for humanity,  then how is it not sin to do all of this mental assimilation but if we should take this same example and form the imagery in many art forms, where even a child or stranger can understand,  as the imagery in a children’s book, how then are we guilty of idolatry as you charge? You need to work through this question, understanding the prohibition in the Commandment was always regarding the God whom they had not seen. But now, He has appeared, “And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us (and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only Begotten of the Father), full of grace and truth.”

We do not change God into corruptible man, or the many false gods throughout the ages, but we do worship the true and incorruptible God who became visible man. Your exegeses of Romans 1 is the same sort of snake oil as the Appalachian church goer. Saint Paul isn’t condemning those who worship the true God, but rather those who had fell away from what was visible in creation, and began to worship the false. Catholics worship the true God who became visible, given to us as a gift, so that we not fall away and worship the false.

There was a child molester who became a history teacher in my children’s school. Yet, not all teachers in that school were pedophiles. You’re painting the whole Church with a single color. It’s interesting that you should quote from Romans 1. For when they turned away from the evidences left in creation, their rationale also spiraled downwards, even becoming blind to the visible language left in God’s design of the human body. You too, having turned away from the incarnate Church, are quick to turn reason to fallacy, painting the whole Church with the brush stroke of spiritual ignorance. For one observing the scandal in the spirit of grace can ascertain that God has purged from the Church that which is unholy, as the ocean purges the dead from the sea. But you stand at the end of the purging and call everything in the sea unclean, for the few dead you have seen laying upon the shore.  Isn’t the husband commanded to keep his bride pure and holy? Do you expect less from God and His Church?

Likewise, your exegesis of 2 Corinthians 5:16-17 is a foul ball of dung. The instruction has no weight on God’s incarnation, as if we are commanded to make invisible again the God who became visible. Your interpretation is the devils work, for he bends the mind from rationale, perverting the Scriptures.  For example, when you read the Scriptures, from His birth, unto His death and resurrection, and lastly till His ascension into heaven, aren’t you knowing God in the flesh? Did you know Jesus any other way? Did you then afterwards rip out the four Gospels from your Bible so that you would “know him so no longer”?  Rather, Saint Paul is contrasting the temporal aspects of our life in this fallen body. What may seem weak and dying to us, will be ever raised to new life eternal with Christ Jesus. Who although was in the flesh and appeared so, was likewise raised in a glorified body.  

You should be very careful. For if he hardened those who had turned from the visible witness of creation, and also hardened those who would not obey the word spoken through Moses and the prophets, with many signs and wonders, how much more those who will not obey His visible Church, the witness of His Body? There is no longer any excuse for you. He has taken away every excuse.  Smell the smoke, for its odor in the stench of rebellion.

How can it be that the Vatican is the whore, when she herself is not built upon seven hills? And how can the blood of the Saints be found in her, when for century after century you can’t even name one of the Saints? Was Arius one of your saints? Or Nestorius?  Or Pelagius, or one of the many other heretics the Church has opposed throughout history, protecting the Saints? Aren’t you just another iconoclasts, another who claims to be led by the Spirit as all of the other heretics, misinterpreting the Word of God to their advantage?  

Love in Jesus Christ,

Brian

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