From: Susan
To: The Path of Truth
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: jesus is not the Jewish HaMoshiach, You Might Want To Read A Jewish Tanakh!!!!
The Jewish Tanakh was in existence before christian bibles were and there is no prophesy as jesus, yeshua, or yahshua whatsoever.
Hashem created good and he created evil, Hashem created peace and he created claimity, and all angels including HaSatan have no free will they do everything HaShem tells them to do. Nowhere in the Jewish Tanakh does it ever mention HaSatan is ruler of this world nowhere does it ever say he is a fallen angel. He is one of HaShems messangers an he is an opposing one too, but he is not a fallen angel.
The Jewish Tanakh was here long before the christians bibles ever were.
And no jesus is not the Jewish HaMoshiach. For the Jewish HaMoshiach is not incarnate by HaShem he is a human with a natural mother and father like King Shlomo.
Your scriptures are incorrect.
The third temple gets built when the Jewish HaMoshiach comes he is human not a godman.
Jesus never fulfilled the HaMoshiach duties.
Quit trying to push the jesus concept on the Jews, for they are HaShems chosen people!!!!
Ezekiel 37 &38.
Mrs. Susan and Mr. Dallas
From: Paul Cohen
To: Susan
Cc: Victor Hafichuk
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: Jesus is not the Jewish HaMoshiach, You Might Want To Read A Jewish Tanakh!!!!
Matthew 22:41-46 MKJV
(41) While the Pharisees were gathered, Jesus asked them,
(42) saying, What do you think of Christ? Whose son is he? They say to Him, David’s.
(43) He said to them, How then does David by the Spirit call him Lord, saying,
(44) “the LORD said to my Lord, Sit on My right until I make Your enemies Your footstool for Your feet?”
(45) If David then calls Him Lord, how is He his son?
(46) And no one was able to answer Him a word, nor did anyone dare from that day to question Him any more.
From: Susan
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: Jesus is not the Jewish HaMoshiach, You Might Want To Read A Jewish Tanakh!!!!
The Muslims borrowed from Torah and the Hellenistic Pagan Greco_Roman Church borrowed from the Jewish Tanakh and rewrote plus added there make up bogus account.
The Jewish HaMoshiach is not jesus!!!
Nowhere in the Jewish Tanakh does it mention any prophesy of jesus or yeshua ever.
Here O Israel HaShem the One and Only D’Varim 6:4_9
Every Jew has read the Gospels and the Gospels are bogus they speak against Torah.
If you do and keep Torah you have life through it.
The Jewish HaMoshiach will have both a natural father and mother not a godman.
Jesus never brought the Jews that are in exile back to Yisrael as spoken in Ezekiel. He is not the Jewish HaMoshiach.
With a last name Cohen (Kohen) I am surprised you do not know this.
The Jewish Tanakh never mentions jesus. The the name Yeshu in the Bavli Talmud he was in the first temple period not the second.
Gospels speak against Torah.
Thank you for responding but the christian books are wrong.
Been there and done that! Called to Torah only.
Shoshana (Both my parents are Jews)
From: Susan
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: Jesus is not the Jewish HaMoshiach, You Might Want To Read A Jewish Tanakh!!!!
There is no such thing as Pharisees more like P’rushims and Tzadukims.
From: Susan
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: Jesus is not the Jewish HaMoshiach, You Might Want To Read A Jewish Tanakh!!!!
Hashem created good and he created evil, HaShem created peace and he created clamity.
He is King of both heaven and earth and he rules the human realm and the heavenly realm.
Hasatan never fell from grace and does not rule this world. He is an angel and an angel is not a freewill creature. Angels do everything HaShem commands.
Christian Bibles are false.
With that they also do not have the ability to recreate either.
Only if it was a fleshly messenger.
From: Susan
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: Jesus is not the Jewish HaMoshiach, You Might Want To Read A Jewish Tanakh!!!!
Jewish Tanakh is not written like the Christian Bibles. It is different!
From: Paul Cohen and Victor Hafichuk
To: Susan
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 8:30 AM
Subject: The Lord and Savior of Israel
You’re wrong, Susan. The prophets of Israel as recorded in the Tanakh contradict you, and we speak to you as they did to Israel long ago. Your forefathers opposed YHWH and stoned His prophets and you follow in the steps of your fathers doing the same today.
You say, “If you do and keep Torah you have life through it.”
Humble yourself, repent of yourself and consider your folly. You claim to have life from the Torah but you know you don’t hear from God and have life. Isn’t that so? Be honest, now. But WE have that very life of which you speak and we declare it to all, for His sake and yours.
Does your husband know you’re ranting to strangers? If there will be any further conversation, have him write us after reading our site and your letters to us, in order that he might responsibly respond. Otherwise, we’ll simply delete any further such letters from you and block you from sending us more nonsense.
For the record, all of your complaints and criticisms are answered in our Jewish section and elsewhere on our site. Whatever little you’ve looked at, clearly you can’t see anything. You desperately need help, but are too proud to receive any. So go your way with the Tanakh and your chosen false gods that have blinded your eyes to the Living God.
“You search the Scriptures [Tanakh], because you think that in them you have eternal life; and these are they which testify about Me. Yet you will not come to Me, that you may have life” (John 5:39-40 HNV).
Meanwhile, we’ll continue serving the God and Savior of Israel, Who has given us understanding of His words and revelation in the Tanakh.
Paul Cohen and Victor Hafichuk
www.ThePathofTruth.com
From: Susan
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: The Lord and Savior of Israel
The Jewish Tanakh is separate from the christian and messianic bibles, completely.
In fact they borrowed from the Jewish Tanakh. And jesus came from the Hellenistic Pagan Greco_Roman Church System and their gospels contradict Torah. The Torah is the tree of life not jesus.
Ezekiel even speaks about the Levite falling into the trap of false prophesy steering away from Torah.
The Gospels are false!!!!
The Orthodox have read gospels too, they also refute them as I do.
Their bogus. And no they did not stone the prophets. What bogus scripture are you reading?
Have you ever read the Jewish Tanakh?
Does not sound like you ever have.
From: Susan
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: The Lord and Savior of Israel
Israel never stoned any prophet to death. The Jewish Tanakh was around long before the christian bibles or even the Messianic ones were.
HaShem is the G_d of Yisrael he is Yisraels Savior and Redeemer no one else is.Hashem is one he is not many.
Ezekiel 37:15_28 is about the Tribe of Y’hudah and those gathered to them, the House of Israel, the Levites, Yosef which Efrayim is in his hand and those gathered to them.
It has nothing to do with a church, a state, or christians at all. Only Israel and the third temple yet to be built.
Everything will go back as it was in Exodus.
The gospels are bogus I read them and I know their bogus. Jesus never completed any task as the Jewish HaMoshiach therefore he was a false HaMoshiach.
The Jewish HaMoshiach is not G_d incarnate either. His father and earthly born one is connected to the Tribe of Y’hudah, this is Jewish prophesy not christian or muslim prophesy, it is Jewish only.
I suggest you read the Bavli Talmud, the Jewish Talmud and the Jewish Tanakh, since it was here before any bogus gospels were.
The suffering servant is Yisrael not jesus.
May HaShem show you the truth.
From: Susan
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: The Lord and Savior of Israel
By the way my husband knows who I talk to, maybe the Sheriff’s dept will receive a copy of your comments.
From: Susan
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: HaShem Created Good and He Created Evil and He Created Peace And He Created Clamity…..He is the Creator Of Everything Out Of Nothing!!!
HaShem is King Over Heaven and Earth no one else is.
The Jewish Tanakh was here long before christianity or muslims ever were.
Jesus is sun of the morning state, Yeshayahu 14
And it also applies to the P’leshet too.
In the Jewish Tanakh it clearly states that hasatan is an Angel angels are not freewill beings they carry out the orders of HaShem. Hasatan is not the ruler of this world HaShem is.
By the way it seems you have cut down other people too.
Mike Ratliff had a run in with you too.
HaShem does allow people to be born with disabilities this is life.
Your jesus and you are bogus!!!!!
By the way my husband knows who I talk to, but it will not be with you anymore, I think your a nut.
Ezekiel 37 Is about the tribes of Yisrael only, not about churches, christians or muslims and not about the secular nations who have no share with Yisrael at all.
From: Victor and Paul
To: Susan
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 9:09 AM
Subject: Contradiction and Confusion
Hi Susan,
Some choice pieces from your letters:
“Israel never stoned any prophet to death.”
Do you read the Jewish Tanakh? We do, and we believe it. How did you miss this, for example?
“And the Spirit of God came on Zechariah the son of Jehoiada the priest, who stood above the people and said to them, So says God, Why do you transgress the commandments of the LORD so that you cannot be blessed? Because you have forsaken the LORD, He has also forsaken you. And they conspired against him and stoned him with stones at the command of the king in the court of the house of the LORD” (2 Chronicles 24:20-21 MKJV).
You threaten us with speaking to earthly police authorities (“By the way my husband knows who I talk to, maybe the Sheriff’s dept will receive a copy of your comments.”). What are you afraid of? Do you think you scare us?
Yes indeed, Ezekiel 37 is all about Israel, as you say. What makes you surmise we believe otherwise?
“The Jewish HaMoshiach is not G_d incarnate either.” Many learned Jews would disagree with you.
“The suffering servant is Yisrael not jesus.”
Really? Is that what Isaiah is talking about in the Tanakh?
Isaiah 53:1-12 HNV
(1) Who has believed our message? and to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?
(2) For he grew up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he has no form nor comeliness; and when we see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
(3) He was despised, and rejected by men; a man of suffering, and acquainted with disease: and as one from whom men hide their face he was despised; and we didn’t respect him.
(4) Surely he has borne our sickness, and carried our suffering; yet we considered him plagued, struck by God, and afflicted.
(5) But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought our shalom was on him; and by his wounds we are healed.
(6) All we like sheep have gone astray; everyone has turned to his own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all.
(7) He was oppressed, yet when he was afflicted he didn’t open his mouth; as a lamb that is led to the slaughter, and as a sheep that before its shearers is mute, so he didn’t open his mouth.
(8) By oppression and judgment he was taken away; and as for his generation, who [among them] considered that he was cut off out of the land of the living for the disobedience of my people to whom the stroke [was due]?
(9) They made his grave with the wicked, and with a rich man in his death; although he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.
(10) Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he has put him to grief: when you shall make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see [his] seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
(11) He shall see of the travail of his soul, [and] shall be satisfied: by the knowledge of himself shall my righteous servant justify many; and he shall bear their iniquities.
(12) Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he poured out his soul to death, and was numbered with the transgressors: yet he bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
You’re a very confused lady. HaShem seems nowhere around for you. That’s because you’re at enmity with Him. Have you ever considered? Your sins hold you bound; repent.
Perhaps you need to submit to your husband and learn to behave yourself. And if he doesn’t approve of your corresponding with us, then you shouldn’t be writing and showing off your great ignorance, should you? Not good, Susan.
Victor and Paul
From: Susan
To: Victor Hafichuk
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: Contradiction and Confusion
The Jewish HaMoshiach the first time not second time brings back the Israelites to Yisrael. Yeshu is from the first temple period not the second temple period. I do disagree with you, because the Torah does contradict the gospels completely. I have read them too and it is true torah contradicts the gospels.
Susan
From: Susan
To: Victor Hafichuk
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: Contradiction and Confusion
Excuse I think you need to mind your own business about my marriage.
Both male and female are one in marriage and equal.
I think you and every nosy person needs to mind their business concerning our privacy which everyone is violating and start living your own lives. HaShem sees all!!!!
Maybe everyone should mind their own business instead of trying to violate us. Think about!!!! You and the public are violating our US Constitutional Rights. When the two male and female are married they are one and are equal.
And jesus,yeshu,yahshua is not the Jewish HaMoshiach. The Jewish Tanakh is separate from the Christian and messianic bibles.
Have a nice life!!! By the way mind your own business!
From: Susan
To: Victor Hafichuk
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 8:02 AM
Subject: re: you say every learned Jew knows, but every learned Jew refutes Yeshu as Jewish HaMoshiach.
JewsforJudiasm and aish.com and myjewishlearning and every TzaShk and every Rabbi refutes jesus yeshu yeshua and yahshua as being the true Jewish HaMoshiach because he was not and is not the Jewish HaMoshiach.
Might try going to Artscroll.com and purchase the true Jewish Tanakh because there is no comparsion to the king james version the messianic or christian bibles. There is day and night between the christian/messianic and the Geniune Jewish Tanakh.
As far as my marriage I think you and the public needs to mind their own business. I do not follow the messianic nor the christian way I do however follow the Orthodox way. So for now on mind your own business concerning strangers, websites and emails. What isn’t good is you keep emailing me so basically you are the one that is at fault here and not me.
And by the way HaShem is King of both heaven and earth and he rules in both realms.
No angel does and no angel fell from grace and they are not freewill they do everything HaShem tells them to do. So your gospels are hogwash.
Every learned Jew are wise and none have fallen into the trap of the Hellenistic Pagan Greco_Roman Church lie. But you it seems have along with countless many of others.
Hear O Israel, HaShem the One and Only.
There is no longer except HaShem.
By the way mind of your own business when it comes to my husband and I, it is none of your business or anyone elses business.
From: Victor and Paul
To: Susan
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:40 AM
Subject: Clearing Things Up Regarding Your Contradiction and Confusion
Susan, Shlomo’s temple was destroyed by Babylon approximately over 2500 years ago. The second temple was built about a century later by the decree of Cyrus (Koresh) king of Persia (Paras), even as Yeshayahu had prophesied. Yeshua wasn’t born until about 2000 years ago, during the second temple period and under the Roman rule of Israel. So how do you say Yeshua was from the first temple period, which, by His time, had already been gone for over half a millennium? Perhaps you’re confusing Yeshayahu with Yeshua?
And can you show us how the Torah contradicts the Gospels in ANY way, never mind “completely”? We can show you how the Gospels and the rest of the New Testament are based in the Torah and how a multitude of prophecies from the Torah are fulfilled in the Gospels in Yeshua HaMashiach and the events recorded.
But first, if you will, please show us how the Torah contradicts the Gospels. Give us facts, Susan, not just opinion. Don’t expect us to take your word for it and we won’t expect you to take ours. We will each provide one another with Torah testimony. Fair enough?
As for mention of your husband, his signature was on your first letter to us and you told us he knows about this conversation. Furthermore, if you two are one, then anything you do also logically involves or represents him, does it not? That is what the Torah teaches.
Susan, you keep saying you’ve been reading the Torah, yet you continue to prove otherwise. How so? Are you lying to us? Or is it you simply don’t believe what the Torah says? As you said, “HaShem sees all.”
Nor do you know what we teach and you bear false witness against us. Have you not seen that the Torah condemns false witnesses? You accuse us of believing and teaching contrary to what we believe and teach. Two examples:
We agree there is Only One God. This we teach.
We agree there is no free will, as you say. This we also teach.
We do not teach that an angel of God fell. Those are erroneous interpretations of Yeshayahu (Isaiah) 14 and Yechezkel (Ezekiel) 28.
As well, we condemn the “Hellenistic Pagan Greco_Roman Church” and its false doctrines.
And, we have answered Aish.com and Rabbi Shraga Simmons – Why Jews Should and Will Believe in Jesus
As for minding our own business, aren’t you the one who wrote us, and continue to do so – 3 letters just today? And because we exercise the right to reply, you now accuse us of violating your US Constitutional Rights? How so? Are those rights yours only, and not the rights of every American? I think your husband needs to help you, or is he as confused as you are, seeing you are one and equal?
Victor and Paul