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What a load of pretentious crap! Bringing in religion to justify the
defence of indefensible behaviour of self-serving right wing ideologues
is shameful. The tone and language of your posting is an embarrassment
to any truly religious person with even an inkling of the true message
of all major religious faiths.
I suggest you confine your intolerant rants to the Opinion columns
of the National Post.
Denis McKee
Paul's reply:
Denis, we would far rather be an embarrassment to men
than to have God ashamed of us because we kept our mouths shut in fear
of
what others who do not care about what is right thought of us for telling
them the truth. We know that God would have all men to repent and do
what is right. We also know that many, such as you, cannot tell right
from wrong. Therefore we are sent to tell you. Now you will be held
responsible and judged for what you have heard.
God sends messengers to warn because He cares and would have those
who hear turn from doing evil to have peace with Him and all good things.
But the false gods you worship in your false religious faiths have
given you an artificial, illusionary peace and confidence. The false
religion of men gives permission to its worshippers to go into destruction,
each in the way he or she chooses. Only God calls men into account,
requiring the laying down of the life in obedience.
It is a common tactic of those who are in the wrong to avoid the matter
at hand by bringing accusation against those who shed light on their
malfeasance. We are not, as you charge, “bringing
in religion to justify the defence of indefensible behaviour of self-serving
right
wing ideologues.” Religion and the right wing have nothing to
do with the words in the prophecy. Truth and righteousness are what
it is about, and these are no respecters of parties or persons.
The Bible, with God’s multitude of warnings against sin and His
expressive ways of describing sinners and their wrongdoing, is a giant “load
of pretentious crap,” according to you. No doubt you would have
contemned all of God’s words through His prophets had you been
there in those days, just as you do today.
His descriptions are often colorful, and to sinners incognizant of
their sins, exaggerative:
“GOD's Message came to me as follows: ‘If a man's wife
walks out on him and marries another man, can he take her back as if
nothing
had happened? Wouldn't that raise a huge stink in the land? And isn't
that what you've done-- whored your way with god after god?’ And
now you want to come back as if nothing had happened. GOD's Decree. ‘Look
around at the hills. Where have you not had sex? You've camped out
like hunters stalking deer. You've solicited many lover-gods, like
a streetwalking whore chasing after other gods. And so the rain has
stopped. No more rain from the skies! But it doesn't even faze you.
Brazen as whores, you carry on as if you've done nothing wrong. Then
you have the nerve to call out, My Father! You took care of me when
I was a child. Why not now? Are you going to keep up Your anger nonstop?
That's your line. Meanwhile you keep sinning nonstop’” (Jeremiah
3:1-5 MSG).
But His people did not listen, and so they suffered. Ask the Jews if
this is not so. They know it, as do I. But this is obviously not the
religion you are alluding to, with warnings, rebukes, and punishment
from Heaven on wrongdoers. Not just heathen wrongdoers, but religious wrongdoers, and particularly those who should know better.
Ezekiel 5:7-17 MSG
(7) Therefore this is what GOD, the Master, says: You've been
more headstrong and willful than any of the nations around you, refusing
My guidance, ignoring My directions. You've sunk to the gutter level
of those around you.
(8) Therefore this is what GOD, the Master, says: I'm setting
Myself against you--yes, against you, Jerusalem. I'm going to punish
you in full sight of the nations.
(9) Because of your disgusting no-god idols, I'm going to do something
to you that I've never done before and will never do again:
(10) turn families into cannibals--parents eating children, children
eating parents! Punishment indeed. And whoever's left over I'll throw
to the winds.
(11) Therefore, as sure as I am the living God--Decree of GOD,
the Master--because you've polluted my Sanctuary with your obscenities
and disgusting no-god idols, I'm pulling out. Not an ounce of pity
will I show you.
(12) A third of your people will die of either disease or hunger inside
the city, a third will be killed outside the city, and a third will
be thrown to the winds and chased by killers.
(13) Only then will I calm down and let My anger cool. Then you'll
know that I was serious about this all along, that I'm a jealous God
and not to be trifled with.
(14) When I get done with you, you'll be a pile of rubble. Nations
who walk by will make coarse jokes.
(15) When I finish My angry punishment and searing rebukes, you'll
be reduced to an object of ridicule and mockery, turned into a horror
story circulating among the surrounding nations. I, GOD, have spoken.
(16) When I shoot My lethal famine arrows at you, I'll shoot
to kill. Then I'll step up the famine and cut off food supplies.
(17) Famine and more famine--and then I'll send in the wild animals
to finish off your children. Epidemic disease, unrestrained murder,
death--and I will have sent it! I, GOD, have spoken.
How is that for an “intolerant rant”? Only thing is, God
meant what He said; He did what He said, and all those who called it “crap,” and “intolerable,” were
those to whom He did it.
Paul Cohen
Denis' reply:
Thanks for confirming my opinions!
Victor's reply:
And that is the difference between us, Denis. While you have only
opinions (which is what is causing all the trouble in the world), we
have been given to know the facts as God sees them. He is not about
opinion; He knows, and through Jesus Christ He has determined that
men might know. They need not be left indefinitely in the darkness
and bondage of merely supposing, imagining, opining, wondering, or
guessing. Jesus said this:
“The thief does not come except to steal and to kill and to destroy.
I have come so that they might have life, and that they might have
it more abundantly” (John 10:10 MKJV).
He promised this to those who believe on Him:
“However, when He, the Spirit of Truth, has come, He will guide
you into all truth. For He shall not speak of Himself, but whatever
He
hears, He shall speak. And He will announce to you things to come.
He will glorify Me, for He will receive of Mine and will announce it
to you” (John 16:13-14 MKJV).
This is what He has done for us, Denis – no pretention, no crap,
and no religion, believe it or not. Jesus Christ did not come to bring
religion. He is REALITY. And what He has done for us and many others
is what He will one day do for all men, including you, who do not now
believe. Until then, you will suffer the consequences of darkness,
resisting the Light He says He IS.