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Those who are lying will be exposed and those who are innocent will be vindicated in due time. Both sides must work hand in hand until they’re complete. You can be sure of that; therefore, we can put our trust in the Lord Who works all these things.
What I primarily wanted to see was how seriously you took a vow to God, mistaken or otherwise. It isn’t the kind of thing you say, “Whoops! I made a mistake, sorry!” or “Yes, I’ve sinned, I hope You’ll forgive me.”
Making an oath to God is most serious. Remember Jephthah, who knew the gravity of his rash decision. The only person who can nullify an oath to God is God Himself to Whom the oath is made and not the one making the oath or anyone else.
This same principle God works with men. If two people agree to an oath, neither one can pull out of it except with the permission of the other. Otherwise, the oath, promise, or agreement is permanent. Here, I speak not of you and Amber but of you and God.
I believe that if you had stuck to your oath, as hasty, lusty, and evil as it was or as evil as the one to whom you committed yourself, sealing it to boot, things would work out to a proper end.
Now, we must see what the Lord will do from here. Are you prepared to do His will no matter what? Will you permit Him to make the judgment or will you insist on judging yourself, others, whoever they may be, and your situation? Choose life so you may live, or choose death. But why wouldn’t you choose life? Do that! I see no other viable alternative. Do you?
Has the Lord made the final judgment as you either declare or seem to assume? Have there been two or three separate and independent witnesses to confirm?
This I say, if God sees you worthy of forgiveness and deliverance from your prison and wickedness of flippant words to Him, we’ll know it, and I for one will want to see it the way He sees it, what He does with it, and to stand with him with whom the Lord stands.
Comment link: https://www.thepathoftruth.com/letters/marriage-before-the-lord.htm#comment-63494
Those who are lying will be exposed and those who are innocent will be vindicated in due time. Both sides must work hand in hand until they’re complete. You can be sure of that; therefore, we can put our trust in the Lord Who works all these things.
What I primarily wanted to see was how seriously you took a vow to God, mistaken or otherwise. It isn’t the kind of thing you say, “Whoops! I made a mistake, sorry!” or “Yes, I’ve sinned, I hope You’ll forgive me.” Making an oath to God is most serious. Remember Jehu, who knew the gravity of his rash decision. The only person who can nullify an oath to God is God Himself to Whom the oath is made and not the one making the oath or anyone else.
This same principle God works with men. If two people agree to an oath, neither one can pull out of it except with the permission of the other. Otherwise, the oath, promise, or agreement is permanent. Here, I speak not of you and Amber but of you and God.
I believe that if you had stuck to your oath, as hasty, lusty, and evil as it was or as evil as the one to whom you committed yourself, sealing it to boot, things would work out to a proper end. Now, we must see what the Lord will do from here. Are you prepared to do His will no matter what? Will you permit Him to make the judgment or will you insist on judging yourself, others, whoever they may be, and your situation? Choose life so you may live, or choose death. But why wouldn’t you choose life? Do that! I see no other viable alternative. Do you?
Has the Lord made the final judgment as you either declare or seem to assume? Have there been two or three separate and independent witnesses to confirm?
This I say, if God sees you worthy of forgiveness and deliverance from your prison and wickedness of flippant words to Him, we’ll know it, and I for one will want to see it the way He sees it, what He does with it, and to stand with him with whom the Lord stands.
Comment link: https://www.thepathoftruth.com/letters/marriage-before-the-lord.htm#comment-63493
There are also effective and harmless ways of doing so. Abstinence during the fertility window is one option. If you’re interested, do the research.
It is not our stance that married couples should never doing anything to control whether or not they conceive children.
We are obviously against abortion and pharmaceutical contraception.
Ultimately, you’ll have to know from the Lord what to do, but I don’t believe Nicholas gave you good direction with his leading question.
He is not married, hasn’t had children, and doesn’t have the wisdom or understanding to advise on this matter.
Comment link: https://www.thepathoftruth.com/teachings/mundane-matters-of-importance.htm#comment-63492
She spews religion and no reality. It was very hard to read.
I do not and cannot condemn her as I was like her at one time, very religious until the Lord gave me grace to receive His reality. He did that through Victor and the Lord’s website The Path of Truth for which I am VERY thankful.
What was amazing to me is, she (and her family) suffers the wrath of God but feels she is in a position to condemn and judge Victor?! Wow!
In closing, she says:
“If I have spoken to you by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come near you!”
She’s given herself over to strong delusion, not knowing she speaks by the spirit of Satan and his kingdom.
She had hope by the Lord’s grace and she trashed it.
Comment link: https://www.thepathoftruth.com/letters/francine-boissel-choosing-death-over-life#comment-63491
Comment link: https://www.thepathoftruth.com/teachings/confession-of-sin.htm#comment-63490
Some things are always sin – like adultery or murder, things with evil intent. Other things are a matter of conviction or circumstance.
“If any man doubts when he eats, it is sin to him,” Paul writes. That same eating may not be sin without any doubting involved. Your financial consulting may fall into that category, for example.
God is not requiring you to cleanse your past so much as to have you repent of it and of your present evil. I’m not talking about entire restitution, otherwise, there’s no end to it – it’s impossible.
Sin is not only a matter of fact but can be a matter of conviction.
Did Saul go around making restitution to all the saints he had persecuted? In his zeal, he had done what he honestly thought was right before God. He said that as touching the Law, he was blameless (Philippians 3:5,6). For that, God forgave him.
Also, a matter of motive: What was once not sin by nature in your understanding can be sin with new understanding, and what was once sin becomes not sin with God’s enlightenment.
God does not make you responsible by a new understanding for sins not formerly designated or declared as sins by Him. He holds you responsible for sins that were always sins. It’s a matter of the heart. It’s not a matter of redeeming an old heart and world with their works but one of having the heart replaced with a new one.
Ezekiel 36:26-27
King James Version
26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you a heart of flesh.
27 And I will put My spirit within you, and cause you to walk in My statutes, and ye shall keep My judgments, and do them.
Trust the Lord; commit your way, not your compensation and correction, to Him as your Redeemer. You can’t go wrong with Him or substitute anything else for Him.
Comment link: https://www.thepathoftruth.com/teachings/confession-of-sin.htm#comment-63489
Also, you aught to listen to this song. It’s pretty fitting for the topics. https://www.victorhafichuk.com/recordings/to-do-or-not-to-do/
We just gotta look at each circumstance individually, looking to the Lord for His judgements. Thankfully He’s provided Victor and Martin to judge and lead by His Spirit too, which is very helpful.
Regarding the Lord speaking through me, I don’t know, I’ve just learned a lot about Him from this website, Victor and Martin, and am sharing what He’s given me over the years. If such is the case though, I’m grateful to have that privilege.
Comment link: https://www.thepathoftruth.com/teachings/confession-of-sin.htm#comment-63488
I don’t know if it’s my limited English skills (I’m not a native speaker), so I worded it wrong or you misunderstood me. I just want to clarify that I no longer work as a financial advisor. So in my question I was referring primarily to how I dealt with the past.
I still don’t understand exactly why it should be ok to work where my work supports a lot of bad things (maybe in the pharmaceutical industry, as was mentioned as an example in the conversation you linked). On the other hand, things are wrong where we support evil e.g. eating fast food. But that’s my human logic again.
In any case, I had the impression at that time that the Lord wanted me to stop with the job as an financial advisor and guided me so individually. I am grateful that the Lord sent a man of God, Victor, to bring me judgment and direction on this and many other matters, and that He speaks to me through you as well. I long for the Lord to set up his kingdom for everyone to see, even if my idea of it is so naive and there are still many judgments and fires to come for myself.
Comment link: https://www.thepathoftruth.com/teachings/confession-of-sin.htm#comment-63487
I see you accusing yourself of stealing, and the point Victor and Martin were getting at with my judgement of Michael is basically what you wrote out here. I just went so far in that circumstance as to accuse my brother Michael of evil, which was unacceptable and presumptuous, as well as incorrect.
I honestly wonder of it wouldn’t be fine for you to continue selling insurance, just without purchasing any yourself, and with willingness to be honest with your customers as circumstances arise. How many times have the righteous profited off of the unbelief of the heathen? I’m reminded of Abraham’s wars, Jacob manipulating sheep so he’d keep more, along with examples you red of in the comments (to an extent), and this paper , https://www.thepathoftruth.com/teachings/white-lies-approved-by-god.htm
I don’t know though, so, the Lord’s will be done.
I hope I haven’t confused you Lukas. My goals were to show you that you can only trust the Lord to sort these matters out, to critique the logic you used, and show you the breadth of the Lord’s ways.
And while I don’t fully understand the reasoning of Victor’s judgement, it’s from the Lord, even if Victor may technically be wrong.
Wasn’t Abraham wrong for commanding his wife to lie, twice? Yet the Lord blessed them despite that with many new goods, and Sarah is considered an example for all women to follow because she obeyed Abraham, calling him ‘lord’.
Victor is like the judges of Israel’s past. Even the start of a new phase, where the world returns to a theocracy.
His judgements stand, and in this particular case, I don’t see anything to show that Victor is misunderstanding anything, or wrong.
I recall that law about judges, that, whatever they say goes.
Deu 17:8 If there arises a matter too hard for you in judgment, between blood and blood, between plea and plea, and between stroke and stroke, being matters of controversy within your gates; then you shall arise, and go up to the place which Yahweh your God chooses.
Deu 17:9 You shall come to the priests who are Levites, and to the judge who shall be in those days. You shall inquire, and they shall give you the verdict.
Deu 17:10 You shall do according to the decisions of the verdict which they shall give you from that place which Yahweh chooses. You shall observe to do according to all that they shall teach you:
Deu 17:11 according to the decisions of the law which they shall teach you, and according to the judgment which they shall tell you, you shall do. You shall not turn away from the sentence which they shall show you, to the right hand, nor to the left.
Deu 17:12 The man who does presumptuously, in not listening to the priest who stands to minister there before Yahweh your God, or to the judge, even that man shall die. You shall put away the evil from Israel.
Deu 17:13 All the people shall hear, and fear, and do no more presumptuously.
This is the caliber of Victor and Martin’s judgements, so, while he opened this matter to debate, unless someone can show how he ers here with Godly reason, then I’d say you got nothing to worry about regarding making restitutions, Lukas.
And if I’m wrong somehow, someone will have to explain it to me.
Comment link: https://www.thepathoftruth.com/teachings/confession-of-sin.htm#comment-63486
I try to understand the law of God with my carnal mind and act accordingly. But in many ways I still have no understanding of the spirit and cling to the letter of the law. When I act on that basis, I come only to a form of godliness, but not to power and an actual reality of faith that comes from the Lord.
That may lead me to the answer to my question for Victor. I have to stop trying to understand God with my mind and how to keep his laws. He wants me to seek Him myself and He will show me what to do. In every single question, be it confession, restitution, keeping the law, he will give me the answer if I believe and obey in the things, which he has clearly shown me up to that point. If I do something wrong it’s like Martin said to you: “The Lord is over your mistakes as much as your successes” .Then it no longer depends on me and my logic. I ask the Lord to give me this.
Of course it makes sense what you say about replying, so I’ll do it in the future.
Comment link: https://www.thepathoftruth.com/teachings/confession-of-sin.htm#comment-63485
Did you read those comments I mentioned in the Sabbath section? I’d like to hear your thoughts on those as I’m fairly sure all of it will help clarify what Victor is talking about. The one that starts with Nathan Boulet in particular is the one I’m thinking of.
I’d tell you more, but I love seeing what people find on their own.
Also, if you could reply in this thread with the reply button, it’ll keep the site from being cluttered up.
Comment link: https://www.thepathoftruth.com/teachings/confession-of-sin.htm#comment-63484
Nicholas, your answer encouraged me to follow my conscience, even though I often find it confusing and uncertain, it is good to know that the Lord is in full control. I pray that he gives me faith in him. I remember that Victor also wrote to me in his first email “Your conscience will tell you whether you’ve done enough or the right thing”, that’s why I don’t have to understand the matter exactly, just believe and obey. I ask him to guide my conscience and give me the strength to do what I have to do.
I`m thankful that the Lord gives me so many answers through you, God bless you!
Comment link: https://www.thepathoftruth.com/teachings/confession-of-sin.htm#comment-63483
I’m reminded of advice Martin Vanpopta gave me a long time ago, early in our relationship, and my walk with the Lord.
The situation I asked about before this isn’t important, but here is his counsel, which I think you’ll find handy.
“Nicholas, ask the Lord and trust Him to direct you. If you make the wrong move, you’ll find out. The Lord is over your mistakes as much as your successes.
I wouldn’t put any hope in these folks receiving the Lord. Anything is possible, but keep in mind that your obligation to your employer is primarily to work, not to preach. If things come up because the Lord is directing it, you’ll know it.
If you make a big mess of things, just keep going and the Lord will take care of you, so long as your after His Righteousness.
Maybe this counsel is more general than you hoped for, but we’ve never experienced any profit in “telling people what to do”.
We’ll leave it in the Lord’s hands. It’s between you and Him.”
Since then, I have received specific counsel for a few things, but that’s because the Lord does what He does.
I can identify your struggles with the past too Lucas. It’s a rough thing, but nothing the Lord doesn’t handle with ease.
Im also reminded of a variety of comments Martin made to me.
If you read the comments in the following link, you’ll find some very good counsel. It wasn’t my best moment, but I learned a great deal from it.
https://www.thepathoftruth.com/teachings/sabbath/index.htm
Thanks for asking good questions 🙂
Comment link: https://www.thepathoftruth.com/teachings/confession-of-sin.htm#comment-63481
We all have a past full of ignorance, stupidity, lack of skill, and naivety, not knowing any better. We change as we learn. It doesn’t mean we have to respond to our past as though we knew better then. That was then and this is now. It is good that you’re considering these things, though.
I invite others to participate in this subject and debate this matter if you will, in case I am misunderstanding your question or issue.
Comment link: https://www.thepathoftruth.com/teachings/confession-of-sin.htm#comment-63480
A few years ago I worked in financial consulting, kind of a network marketing thing. In the meantime the Lord has shown me that I can trust in Him alone and that therefore do not need any insurance. The question now is, how I should deal with my job at that time, which didn’t last long, but some friends bought shares and insurance through me. I had no fraudulent intentions and if I hadn’t realized for God’s sake, I would still have the products I sold them.
I definitely want to reach out to people and tell them to trust in the Lord (they all claim to be believers) and don’t need insurance and I’m sorry I counseled them that way at that time. But I don’t know what else the Lord is asking of me. I’m wondering if I shouldn’t refund them. Perhaps I should give them back the profit I made from them, or should I reimburse them for any contributions they’ve paid since then? That would be quite a lot of money, but if the Lord wants it, then it’s supposed to be like that. Or should I only reimburse them the money if they want to cancel the insurance now, but not if they keep it. I’m not sure what to do, maybe one of you has some advice?
Comment link: https://www.thepathoftruth.com/teachings/confession-of-sin.htm#comment-63479
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Do you have a reason that the Lord would see as justifying the action of keeping a child from being born?
Comment link: https://www.thepathoftruth.com/teachings/mundane-matters-of-importance.htm#comment-63475
Maybe it’s a silly question whose answer is obvious, but what do you think about this topic?
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Comment link: https://www.thepathoftruth.com/spanish/victor_spanish.htm#comment-63473
Quoting Victor “Genesis 12:3. We are Abraham’s seed. Let it be according to the Promised Word of God”. Amen!,
After reading the correspondences with Manny, a line from one of Victor’s songs comes to mind “There’s nothing left to say”.
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