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Were People Drawn to Christ’s Love?

From: Karie
To: The Path of Truth
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 9:29 PM
Subject: Did people want what Jesus had?

You posed this question in one of your articles, “did people want what Jesus had?” And you answered no. Yes they did. They saw the love of the Father radiating from Him. He had thousands of followers that were drawn to this love. The religious spirited were the ones who hated Him. He said that we will be persecuted in His name. My question to you is why are you persecuting other believers? Are we not all brothers and sisters in Christ? We may have different styles of spreading the gospel but the Body needs to be united. 

If people see Christ within us to the fullest they will be drawn to know Him and our Heavenly Father. Slandering people on the Internet is not a reflection of what Christ taught us to do.

From: Paul Cohen and Victor Hafichuk
To: Karie
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: Did people want what Jesus had?

The Scriptures plainly testify against you and what you’re saying, Karie:

Isaiah 53:1-6 MKJV
(1)  Who has believed our report? And to Whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
(2)  For He comes up before Him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground; He has no form nor majesty that we should see Him, nor an appearance that we should desire Him.
(3)  He is despised and rejected of men; a Man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief; and as it were a hiding of faces from Him, He being despised, and we esteemed Him not.
(4)  Surely He has borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows; yet we esteemed Him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
(5)  But He was wounded for our transgressions; He was bruised for our iniquities; the chastisement of our peace was on Him; and with His stripes we ourselves are healed.
(6)  All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned, each one to his own way; and the LORD has laid on Him the iniquity of us all.

You’re calling God a liar, denying His testimony of man:

Romans 3:9-18 MKJV
(9)  What then? Do we excel? No, in no way; for we have before charged both Jews and Greeks all with being under sin,
(10)  as it is written: “There is none righteous, no not one;
(11)  there is none that understands, there is none that seeks after God.”
(12)  “They are all gone out of the way, they have together become unprofitable, there is none that does good, no, not one.”
(13)  “Their throat is an open grave, with their tongues they have used deceit, the poison of asps is under their lips;
(14)  whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness;”
(15)  “their feet are swift to shed blood;
(16)  destruction and misery are in their way,
(17)  and the way of peace they did not know.”
(18)  “There is no fear of God before their eyes.”

It’s the false Jesus being preached by many – that’s the one men are naturally drawn to and love. That’s your Jesus, a creation made in the image of corrupt man. 

So we’re not against different styles of preaching; we’re against different gospels: 

Galatians 1:8-10 MKJV
(8)  But even if we or an angel from Heaven preach a gospel to you beside what we preached to you, let him be accursed.
(9)  As we said before, and now I say again, If anyone preaches a gospel to you beside what you have received, let him be accursed.
(10)  For now do I persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I yet pleased men, I would not be a servant of Christ.

You’re problem isn’t just with us, but with the apostle Paul and all the Lord’s servants, because your problem is with Christ. We aren’t persecuting brothers of the Lord – we’re exposing accursed phonies who lead silly women like you into destruction. You are yet in your sins.

Again and again, you contradict the testimonies of the Scriptures. You say, “They saw the love of the Father radiating from Him. He had thousands of followers that were drawn to this love.” 

Yet the Lord and His disciples were persecuted. For what – the love you say radiated from them? Jesus Himself declared, “And you will be hated by all for My Name’s sake, but he enduring to the end, that one will be kept safe” (Mark 13:13 MKJV). 

And He said: “If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you” (John 15:18 MKJV). 

Not that persecution and hatred from others is necessarily proof one is the Lord’s, but tell us, Karie, are you persecuted? Are you hated for His sake? We know the answer. And here’s what Paul had for an answer:

“Yea, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will be persecuted” (2 Timothy 3:12 MKJV). 

We aren’t persecuting you, but YOU are persecuting us. Isn’t that something you should consider? We aren’t loved by men, but you are.

“And He said to them, You are those justifying yourselves before men, but God knows your hearts; for the thing highly prized among men is a hateful thing before God” (Luke 16:15 LITV).

Paul and Victor
www.ThePathofTruth.com
 
From: Karie
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: Did people want what Jesus had?

You call me a silly woman….I can feel the love of Christ within you as you state that to me.

Matthew 7:3

From: Karie
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: Did people want what Jesus had?

And He said: “If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you” (John 15:18 MKJV).

Aren’t you doing this exact thing….hating those who spread the message of Jesus? So they must be doing something right for you to accuse them of such things from a place of condemnation?  

You stated:  but tell us, Karie, are you persecuted? Are you hated for His sake? We know the answer.

The world does not hate me now but they will in about a week when God releases the assignment to me He has given for me to carry.  So you do not know the answer as you assumed, and assuming is never good.   

I’m asking for the body of Christ to join together in unity.  Yet you strike back with pride and judgement towards me and condemn me for being a “silly woman”.  

Unity is rooted in love.  We can’t be unified if we don’t have love. 

Jesus and His disciples walked in the power and glory of the Lord being filled with His Spirit.  I’m asking you not from a place of judgement but do you walk in any power?  You seem to have a lot of knowledge and intellect to argue your points but do you walk in His power?  1 Corinthians 2:5

From: Paul and Victor
To: Karie
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 7:01 AM
Subject: Re[4]: Did people want what Jesus had?

So next week you’re just going to start living godly in Christ Jesus, Karie? And seeing that’s how it is, of what value is it to listen to anything you have to say, just as we, without this, your confession, have already known and declared in the Lord Jesus Christ? 

You’re a liar – by nature, a daughter of Satan. Your silliness is neither innocent nor minimal. We can also tell you in advance that your assignment is from the pits of hell. And you’ll come to know it.

Paul and Victor

From: Karie
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: Re[4]: Did people want what Jesus had?

Are you part of westboro?

From: Karie
To: Paul and Victor
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: Re[4]: Did people want what Jesus had?

Can you send me to a link on your page as to  how you believe the gospel should be taught? As of now, all you’ve done is attack me but have not shown me what it is you are standing for or teaching from? I’m not sure if you have a church or followers but I would think that you teach them some of your core values and truths that your beliefs are founded in.  If you have followers then I’m sure you are teaching them something that draws them to your understanding of scripture. I would honestly like to see these. Thank you.

From: Karie
To: Paul and Victor
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: Re[4]: Did people want what Jesus had?

What is your take on the disciples’ assignments that Jesus commanded of them? You say my assignment is from the pits of hell…what is your belief on their assignments being powered and led by the Holy Spirit? Do you believe that Jesus sent his 12 disciples to spread His gospel?

From: Karie
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: Re[4]: Did people want what Jesus had?

Paul-

    I appreciate our conversations. You mentioned in a prior email that I’m controlled by demonic spirits because the world does not hate me as they hate you. Now you say when the world does hate me my assignment is from the pits of hell. If in fact the world hates you as you believe, can you tell me where your assignments are from? Do you believe the world hates you because you declare Jesus as your Lord and therefore you are walking in truth? Yet, you say all other followers of Jesus are deceived and being led by the devil? I’m trying to understand your different views that seem to contradict one another. Please clarify the difference between your assignment and mine. Please clarify why you are walking in truth but the rest of those who declare Jesus as their Lord are deceived. I’m trying hard to understand what it is you are teaching. 

From: Paul and Victor
To: Karie
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 6:38 AM
Subject: Re[9]: Did people want what Jesus had?

You can find what we preach on our website, Karie, that which the Lord Jesus Christ has given us to teach and expose the false. Repeating ourselves here isn’t necessary and won’t help you – only God can open your ears to hear and receive the Truth, and that won’t happen until you turn from opposing Him and seek Him with all your heart instead. 

You have no other assignment at present than to repent and learn of the Risen Lord Jesus Christ. Anything else on your part is presumption and self-promotion.

Paul and Victor

From: Karie
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: Re[9]: Did people want what Jesus had?

Ok, I’ll go look again and see if I can find the info on your website. Can I ask who gave you your assignment being that you preach and have a website/platform in which you teach from? 
Did Jesus give you this assignment or was it self promotion & presumption?

From: Paul and Victor
To: Karie
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 7:43 AM
Subject: Re[11]: Did people want what Jesus had?

Did Jesus give you this assignment or was it self promotion & presumption?

Jesus gave us this ministry and calling, Karie. But you’ll need to know this for yourself from the Lord, which can only happen by the faith that is in Him. 

“Because of this we also give thanks to God unceasingly, so that when you received the Word of God which you heard from us, you received not the word of men, but just as it truly is, the Word of God, which also is at work in you who believe” (1 Thessalonians 2:13 EMTV).

Paul and Victor

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