To: The Path of Truth
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:22 PM
Subject: Paul’s rebuke
I just read what you thought about an SDA person by the name of Paul. I was dismayed at your response. Knowledge of the Bible is important, no it will not save us for that is for Jesus alone and our relationship with him, but we learn about His will and how to live by His example that comes from the Bible. I feel you were very rude to this person and may have misinterpreted what he meant.
As far as Ellen White goes, her books are as easily read as any book you read today from anyone you feel has a view of the Bible in which you like. It is my belief that SDA’s follow the Bible and the Bible only and that’s what we all have to go by. Your attack and that’s what it was was an attack on poor Paul and Ellen White was not christian at all. You have the right to your beliefs as I do to mine but to ridicule and forcibly bash someone is not the way of God.
If you would like to discuss something from a scripture stand point then that’s fine but don’t just put your beliefs out there with such force on someone else and expect them to convert. I ask you that when you write back to anyone if you have no scriptures to quote to back your beliefs and or a true Christ like spirit to share it with please just stop, pray, and then hopefully it will come to you.
From: Paul Cohen
Cc: Victor Hafichuk
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 5:31 PM
Subject: Re:”Paul’s rebuke”
In your letter you criticize what I wrote without identifying what that is. How am I supposed to answer you if I don’t know what you are talking about? What precisely did you find objectionable? I am not aware of anything published in the SDA section on our site that involved a follower of Ellen White named Paul. Can you provide me with the exact quotes of what offended you? Show me specifically where I have “ridiculed and bashed” this fellow. Then I can show you, Lord willing, how you are misinterpreting the spirit and motive of my words if you are wrong – which possibility you dismiss by your judgment.
We agree with you that knowledge of the Bible is important and we have never stated otherwise. But we do not learn how to live by reading the Bible, particularly as you suggest, by trying to imitate Jesus through what we read. Isaiah had something rather nasty to say about that notion, as do all the prophets:
“But we are all as the unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as a menstruation cloth. And we all fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away” (Isaiah 64:6 MKJV).
It is impossible to be like Christ through imitation. Multitudes are proving this point every day. We have proven it too, but now that we know Him, and have His righteousness, we know that we have none and are incapable of doing right. Knowing Him, we also know that He bestows no Brownie points for those who try to imitate Him. Indeed, those are the lukewarm ones He spews from His mouth.
The Bible cannot deliver you from sin or change your nature from being a sinner. This doesn’t mean, however, that we discard It or find It unhelpful. It simply means that the Bible does not have the power to change you. The Words in the Scriptures may quicken a person, but that is because the Lord, the Spirit of God, opens that person’s ears to hear and receive. A person must be born again, as Jesus said, conceived by His Spirit, to see the Kingdom of God.
Millions read the Bible without the gift of hearing and obeying the Spirit of God. The Lord rebuked those who thought they could find life in the Bible outside of Him (John 5:39-40). You are doing the same thing as those He rebuked. You say that the Bible is “what we have to go by.” If the Bible is all that we have to go by, then why aren’t all professors of Christ of one mind and heart? Some, if not all, must not be getting the Message of the Bible. The Bible plainly isn’t doing it for them, and they are not able to fathom It of themselves. Or do you think, as you declare, that only SDA’s get it right and everyone else is messed up? Does keeping the external Sabbath or being an SDA make one infallible?
But those in Christ, those outside structured religion, unlike SDA’s and many others, have His mind and heart, and are one as He prayed to the Father:
“And I do not pray for these alone, but for those also who shall believe on Me through their word, that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You, that they also may be one in Us, so that the world may believe that You have sent Me” (John 17:20-21 MKJV).
This unity, as I have pointed out, does not come by the Bible. His sheep hear His voice. He is where the eagles are gathered. His Voice is not the letter of the Bible, but comes by His personal relationship with His own, as their spiritual Father Who communicates with His children. And there is harmony and agreement in His Word to us. He is the profound difference between us and others, in what we have and are, which men’s religions lack and can never attain.
You say it is your belief that the SDA’s follow the Bible, but if you read our section on religious organization carefully, along with the document I gave you yesterday (“True Marks of a Cult”), you will see that they do not follow the Bible at all. Because SDA’s keep the Sabbath does not make them right with God or anywhere near it. The SDA’s violate many of the listed marks against God’s specified ways. One major one, for example, is the use of images, which directly violates the Ten Commandments. Offend in one Commandment, says James, and you offend in all.
You must admit that your beliefs carry no weight when clearly contradicted by the Truth found in God’s Word. And where there is mixture of clean and unclean (giving you benefit of doubt as an SDA that there is anything clean), as with dung on a plate of food, one throws it all out. So God does as well. He will countenance nothing vile at His table and will never serve up anything unclean to His sons and daughters. (Would you, being evil, feed your children any quantity of dung with their food?)
Furthermore, because SDA’s do not follow the ways of the Lord, they have no assurance of salvation (which they admit). Instead, they have substituted their own works for His righteousness, the Sabbath being a major false god they serve in vain (breaking one Commandment, they break them all).
You should know there is such a thing as knowing, without works, that one is Christ’s, with, and in, Him, by His doing, not one’s own. Then, those who know Him do His will.
Because SDA’s walk in their own righteousness, they exhibit a false love that they call “Christ.” This demeanor and spirit has nothing whatsoever to do with the Lord or His love; in fact, surprise – it is Satanic. (There is a section on our site, under “Falsehood Exposed,” that deals particularly with this phenomenon, which is found everywhere in men’s religions.) Broad indeed is the way that leads to destruction but constricted the road that leads to life!
You say that you and I have a right to our beliefs. That is not true. Neither of us, as professors of Christ, has the right to maintain any belief that is outside of the Truth. The Narrow Way will not, cannot permit it. How can we claim to have a right to believe something that is untrue, when Jesus Christ, our Lord and God, is the Truth and that Way? Does He have fellowship with lies and darkness?
And because it is His Word of Truth, we have understanding of and use the Bible to confirm the Truth that the Lord teaches us:
“To the Law and to the Testimony! If they do not speak according to this Word, it is because no light is in them” (Isaiah 8:20 MKJV).
What I see Vanetta, is that the false belief you harbor of having the right to believe what you want is the reason you take offense at the Truth that contradicts what you believe. That is why you are offended with us. That is why you say I should not put my beliefs out there with such force. My reply is that you should not maintain any false beliefs whatsoever, even if you keep them to yourself with the utmost scrupulousness or kindness toward others. You are offending God, not man, and that is much worse than my possibly being a bit abrupt with someone. You are looking at a possible speck in my eye, when you have a beam in your own.
It has also been demonstrated by your contact of us, that it is impossible for you to keep your beliefs to yourself anyway, as you have taken up the cause of a false prophetess (Ellen White) to castigate the true (us). And she is the one who has, by the power of a demon from Hell, inspired you to trust in the letter of Scripture, as well as persuaded you to trust in man’s judgment on Biblical testimony.
These are subtle diversions from God. After all, you and others with you will say, “What can possibly be wrong with reading the Bible and saying it is good?” We see devils reading the Bible every day! Satan is well versed in Scripture and keeping the Sabbath, and thus he deceives, “if it were possible, the very elect.”
And do you really keep the Sabbath, Vanetta? No. Because a pig wades through a river and is momentarily, superficially washed clean of its mud and filth does not change its nature. It is still a pig and will head for the nearest mudhole at the first opportunity. Keeping the Sabbath without having the Sabbath within means nothing at all to God – never did, and never will. You do not fool Him; you do not keep the Sabbath, it is plain, because no person in his or her own right can do so. This we know both by experience and by the testimony of Scripture. But you insist you are the enlightened one.
Taking this stance, even though you should present yourself as loving, patient, tolerant, gentle and wise, your attitude before God is deplorable and your works unacceptable; He sees them for what they truly are:
“He who kills an ox is as he who kills a man; he who sacrifices a lamb, as he who breaks a dog’s neck; he who offers an offering, as he who offers pig’s blood; he who burns frankincense, as he who blesses an idol. Yes, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delights in their abominations: I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears on them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spoke, they did not hear: but they did that which was evil in My eyes, and chose that in which I didn’t delight” (Isaiah 66:3-4 HNV).
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: “Paul’s rebuke”
Fist of all this rebuke that you put forth I found by accident so I can’t really shed any more light on that subject. In this rebuke you were to him as you were to me yesterday.
As a side note I’d like to say “thank you,” for the phone call last night.
As far as Isaiah goes he was saying that there is nothing we can do of ourselves that is righteous.
Christ is our example and the Bible is His word and story to bring us closer to Him and to help us understand. No, the Bible cannot change us that’s for the Father, Jesus Christ , and the Holy Spirit. We are told to heed the Bible for in it is Gods wisdom, inspired by Him. Jesus at the cross is our only salvation!
I never said SDAs were infallible. They are as infallible as you or me or anyone. We are all sinners! SDAs don’t keep the Sabbath to be saved they do it to please God by following His Ten Commandments. Just as you do whatever it is you do to please God because you believe you are saved!
You wrote “His voice is not the letter of the Bible.” what do you mean? It seems as though you believe you are His chosen only. Where I believe He has many that are not of this fold. He calls His people out of Babylon and they come.
I did read your section on cults but am not aware of any idolatry in the SDA faith. That’s not to say that people of any faith do not create idols for themselves!
when you say keeping the Sabbath breaks His commandments which one and why,how? I believe in the Sabbath which is Saturday. Knowing you were once Jewish I’m surprised you don’t still believe in the Fourth Commandment.
I cannot say whether Satan keeps the Sabbath or not. What I do know is that Christ has sent us out to spread the gospel and to allow Him to work through us to bring His people home.
You seem to be really good at telling people their beliefs are wrong so in that respect how are different from anyone else? On two different occasions i have seen that your”force” is rude and not Christ like at all. That is what you claim isn’t it, that you have the truth and your way is right to God even if it offends someone else?
“There is a way that seems right to a man but its end is the way of death.” Prov. 14:12
How can God work through you to spread the gospel if you busy scaring off the very people He is bringing to your site?
Jesus said, “love your enemies”. I’m not saying I’m your enemy. I went to chat to find our more of what you believe but most of what’s on your website and flows from you is nothing more that rebukes of what other believe!
From: Paul Cohen
Cc: Victor Hafichuk
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:56 AM
Subject: The Sure Testimony of Jesus Christ
Regarding judging us and others: If you can’t give me specifics with substance, you have no business critiquing, much less accusing me. This is not right before God or man. In fact, it is highly presumptuous and could be sin to you if you stick to your unproven charges, and what you infer by them. You are breaking the Commandment that says not to bear false witness against your neighbor.
When Victor and I judge others, we are required to give more than one witness to confirm our testimony, according to the Word of God (Matthew 18:16). Because you did not and cannot provide me with even the example of my alleged wrongdoing, let alone an explanation of how it was wrong, I don’t know that I did anything amiss. What am I to do, therefore, with your accusation? Are we to take your opinion at face value and believe?
I know for a fact that we have spoken truly of Ellen White, for example, whom you say we have criticized unfairly. We have backed up what we say about her and you have not proven us wrong. People don’t usually feel they need to defend themselves with substance when their gods are exposed or criticized. The fact that those are their gods is good enough for them. In this case, our criticism of Ellen makes us wrong to you, case closed.
If God finds no fault with us in what we have written of White, indeed, if He has sent us to warn others against her as a false prophetess, then who are you to accuse us? Did you not know that Satan is the accuser of the brethren (Revelation 12:10)?
If White is a sister or daughter of the Lord, then we are the accusers. But if she is false, as we prove her to be in our writings, then you are the accuser and are serving the prince of darkness as his sister and daughter.
There are several things you wrote in your last letter that are wrong and/or contradictory. I show these things to you in order that you might turn away from your error to the Lord Jesus Christ. The underlying cause of your error is that you are walking in a carnal knowledge of doctrines without spiritual understanding from the Lord. You prefer to remain in your righteousness and sin. You trust in your natural mind and the diabolical doctrines you have been taught of men. These have led you astray, because you have not received a love of truth. Being deceived, you have knowledge without life, and doctrine without the Son.
I hope you will listen to what I say, but our experience tells us that those who are offended by our ministry in Christ never listen to reason or Scripture. I don’t expect that trend to change with you. So then why do I write? Because the Word of God that I speak will judge and correct you in due time. Furthermore, as we reprove the works of darkness coming forth from you, there will come a time when others witnessing these things will fear, repent, and give God the glory.
Regarding your comments on Isaiah 64:6 (“But we are all as the unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as a menstruation cloth. And we all fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away”), we understand what he was saying. That is in fact why we quoted his words to you.
Despite apparently agreeing with us that you can’t do anything right, you are still preaching contrary to your head knowledge of this fact by insisting that you can successfully imitate Christ. Listen to your contradiction:
“As far as Isaiah goes he was saying that there is nothing we can do of ourselves that is righteous.” Right!
“Christ is our example and the Bible is His word and story to bring us closer to Him and to help us understand.” Wrong! While Christ is our example, how can you, a sinner, follow Him, the Perfect One? And how will the Bible bring you closer to the Lord to understand Him, while you are yet in your nature of corruption? Did the Bible help the Pharisees to understand the Lord? Has it helped the Mormons, or Catholics, or so many cults of men to know and follow Jesus, all of whom declare He is the Christ and to believe in Him?
Christ is not a mere example to imitate, but the Power of God Himself, the Firstborn from the dead, ready and able to bring others from the present death of living in this world according to the sinful nature:
“And I was dead, and see, I am living for ever, and I have the keys of death and of Hell” (Revelation 1:18 BBE).
“No, the Bible cannot change us that’s for the Father, Jesus Christ , and the Holy Spirit.“
Aside from the fact there is only one God, and no such thing as the “trinity,” you are right again. But you only have the doctrine and not the reality. The reality, however, is the only thing that counts. Feed yourself with the label on a box of food instead of the contents and see how long you live. You are feeding on labels, Vanetta. Therefore, you have no life in you. You are not eating His flesh and drinking His blood. You only eat paper and ink – no more nutritious spiritually than it would be physically.
“We are told to heed the Bible for in it is Gods wisdom, inspired by Him.“
Back to wrong again! We are told to turn from our sins to Jesus Christ, Who is God. The Bible is a closed book to the natural man. Only through Christ will we know the Bible is true, not because man or the Bible Itself tells us It is true, but because we have the witness of the Son of God, the Light of all men, bearing witness to us of the Truth. Again, how can the natural man know the things of God? Are they not foolishness to him (1 Corinthians 2:14)?
“Jesus at the cross is our only salvation!“
Sounds good, but you are off again. Yes, the Lord Jesus Christ is our only salvation, but that is because He is resurrected from the dead:
“Who was put to death for our evil-doing, and came to life again so that we might have righteousness” (Romans 4:25 BBE).
“And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins!” (1 Corinthians 15:17 EMTV)
Keeping Christ at the cross is the stuff of dead religion, Satan’s stumblingblock to stall us from our destination. That is Catholicism with its crucifixes, emblematic of all man-made Christianity. Christ crucified and resurrected from the dead, alive forevermore at the right hand of God, is the reality experienced here and now by the true believer who has received His life. How does one enter into His life? Through the cross, not the one on which Jesus was crucified, but the one by which we are crucified within, in all reality, through His faith:
“I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me, and gave Himself for me” (Galatians 2:20 EMTV).
“For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God” (1 Corinthians 1:18 EMTV).
The cross means nothing without the Resurrection Life here and now.
Vanetta, we never said that you said SDA’s were infallible. You are simply not paying careful attention to what you read. We declared to you that the SDA’s claim to go by the Bible, as do many other cults. We asked you how you get around the fact that all these groups who say they go by the Bible are in disagreement with one another (as are the SDA’s even within themselves, forever splitting off more groups)? Are you saying that all the other cults are wrong, but the SDA’s are actually right in their interpretation of the Bible, the only right ones? If not, then are you agreeing with us that all are wrong? If that is the case, how can you say the SDA’s are right?
If the SDA’s are right, I also asked you if that is because they keep the external Sabbath? How is it they are right above all others, if you are saying that?
“SDAs don’t keep the Sabbath to be saved they do it to please God by following His Ten Commandments. Just as you do whatever it is you do to please God because you believe you are saved!”
If SDA’s were keeping the Sabbath to please God, why do they break His other Commandments, such as forbidding images of Christ? Is it really Him they seek to please, or themselves? In The True Marks of a Cult, there are many marks that apply to the SDA organization. How can you say you have red it and not find the SDA’s, according to the Lord, His life and teachings, totally condemned?
You are very wrong that we keep God’s Commandments because we believe we are saved. That is the backwards way of man’s religion and dead works. That is the classic horse-behind-the-cart scenario. In this statement is great contradiction, because you say that it is only by Christ’s righteousness that we are accepted or can do right, yet you allow for man to do whatever he thinks is right (which is own righteousness).
How can a man be right in delusion? When every man is doing that which is right in his own sight, in disharmony with Jesus Christ, there is confusion and every evil work. Yet you accept and promote this as Christ’s righteousness. You are part of the confusion, or Babylon, as it is called in the Bible. I speak so that you might repent and turn to the Right Way.
Here is the crucial difference we experience as the saints of God, Vanetta: You do what you do (imitate Christ) that you might be saved, or believing you will be saved, but we do what we do, not because we believe we are saved, but because we are saved; it is theory or wishful thinking versus reality. The first is the work of flesh, imagination, and man’s energies or righteousness. The second is the work of God. It is the faith of Christ, and not our own, by which we establish the Law in the Nature and Resurrection power of the Spirit of God.
The SDA’s and all other religious groups teach, promote, and walk in the faith of their own minds and makings, which they choose for themselves. It is not the Spirit of God at work, choosing for them and leading them according to His power and will. That is why the Lord calls His people out of the religious works of men:
“Therefore come out from among them and be separated, says the Lord, and do not touch the unclean thing. And I will receive you and I will be a Father to you, and you shall be My sons and daughters, says the Lord Almighty” (2 Corinthians 6:17-18 MKJV).
The reason you are not aware of any idolatry in the SDA religion is because you are blinded by the unbelief of dead works, being part of them yourself. You are an idolater among many idolaters. The images of Christ used throughout the SDA religion are idols created in the imaginations of men. They are deaf and dumb, as are those who make and value and view and use them. That explains why you don’t hear the things I am saying from the true God and His Scriptures. You are taken on the paths of the destroyer. We call you to repentance. The Word of God must and will prevail.
I did not say, as you stated, that the keeping of the Sabbath breaks God’s Commandments. I said that by making a god of the Sabbath, the SDA’s break the Commandment to have no gods before the Lord. Breaking one Commandment, as James writes, you break them all. The SDA’s are Law-breakers, not keepers.
We do have the Sabbath, the Fourth Commandment, because the Lord fulfilled the First, Second, and Third within us. Indeed, we have all the Commandments, because the true Christian is the Law of God incarnate, being made in the image of Him Whose Nature is reflected by the Law. We are not “pretend” Christians; God has made us into Christians, while you are a “pretend” or imitation Christian, trying to make your self into His image, as sincere as you think yourself to be.
You write: “You seem to be really good at telling people their beliefs are wrong so in that respect how are different from anyone else?”
As much as you don’t like the thought, and even scorn it, we are good at it because that is our duty, appointment and power of God to do so, as is the calling of all prophets. I don’t know who you are comparing us to. SDA’s? Can you be more specific? Not that it matters. The question is, are we speaking the Truth? If not, no need to bother listening to us. If we are, however, you need to listen for your life, because our words are not our own but are God’s, and He does not speak in vain. But you don’t know the difference, being blinded by your sins and your gods.
“On two different occasions i have seen that your “force” is rude and not Christ like at all. That is what you claim isn’t it, that you have the truth and your way is right to God even if it offends someone else?”
Having the truth doesn’t make whatever I do right. For example, I was abrupt and harsh with you in our first meeting, and I apologized for that.
That being said, the Truth does offend people regularly. That is why Jesus said:
“And blessed is the one, whoever shall not be offended in Me” (Matthew 11:6 LITV).
Many are offended with us in the Lord. I don’t need to add to that by being short with anyone! I do know, however, that if the Father is drawing a person, he or she will come to Him despite my shortcomings. It is not I, but Christ in me Who draws all men to Himself. That answers your next statement:
“How can God work through you to spread the gospel if you busy scaring off the very people He is bringing to your site?”
God does everything He wills, and no one can stop or forestall Him. He isn’t dependent on me or you to get the job done. That again is your righteousness screaming at the top of her lungs, demanding attention, glory, praise, and honor of men. Still, we scare no one. The wicked flee when none pursues.
And who says our calling is to gather a large number of people? Jesus said that the last days would be like those of Noah. How many believed in those days? It is the false who attract and gather the crowds of scoffers and mockers to themselves by their own love and righteousness. The Lord gathers to us whom He wills. It is not our righteousness. But you fellowship with those who revel in their own righteousness, supposing you, as corrupt creatures, can imitate Christ, the Divine Son of God, Who was never corrupt, nor could He ever be.
And are you scared off, Vanetta? Do you think that reproving the works of darkness is not Christ’s love or work? Do you think He doesn’t rebuke the wicked at His appearing? Read Jude’s letter, and tell me what you find there. The “Jesus” who doesn’t come to reprove and rebuke is a mythical, non-existent one, fashioned by men’s hands, a concoction of the Devil, a milksop worth nobody’s worship; that is the Jesus you worship, and are proud of it. The Lord is very different than you think.
The SDA’s are fond of saying that their faith and comprehension of Scripture is “so simple a child could understand it.” But God says this:
“For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, says the LORD” (Isaiah 55:8 HNV).
How can one understand God, then, unless he or she receives a new nature from God?
And what did Peter write of the Scriptures penned by Paul? “So simple a child could understand it”?
“And think of the long-suffering of our Lord as salvation (as our beloved brother Paul also has written to you according to the wisdom given to him as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable pervert, as also they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction)” (2 Peter 3:15-16 MKJV).
The SDA’s worship “another Jesus,” just as Paul warned the Corinthians about, a concoction straight from the pits of Hell. At the heart of this abomination is the official SDA doctrine that states Christ had a sinful nature. From the Adventist publication BIBLE READINGS FOR THE HOME CIRCLE, page 115 in the 1915 edition, we read: “In His humanity Christ partook of our sinful, fallen nature.”
That is not what the Scriptures say of Christ’s Nature:
“And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon you, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow you: therefore also that Holy Thing which shall be born of you shall be called the Son of God” (Luke 1:35 KJV).
“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen by angels, preached among nations, believed on in the world, and received up into glory” (1 Timothy 3:16 MKJV).
Can anyone explain how the holy and sinless Son of God had a sinful nature? SDA’s try to, but what comes out is confusing doubletalk. Let’s do talk instead with the simplicity of a child, which simplicity SDA’s like to think they have (oh, the contradiction of you people!) Even a youngster knows that a dog will bark and a cow will moo. So do those who are not full of religious hogwash know and admit that a sinner will sin. It is the law of natures. The Sinless One, by His Very Nature, will not, cannot, sin any more than the sun will produce darkness.
Jesus Christ, the last Adam, was born in the same state as the first Adam before he sinned. And because Jesus Christ was the quickening Spirit of God in the flesh, He never fell as did Adam: “In all points tempted just as we are, yet without sin” (Hebrews 4:15). Jesus overcame where the earthy man could not. The earthy man was not meant to overcome, but the Heavenly Man was, and as the earthy man could only fail, so the Heavenly Man could only prevail. All those who are born again of His Spirit are quickened to be just as He is:
“The first man was out of earth, earthy. The second Man was the Lord out of Heaven. Such as is the earthy man, such also are the earthy ones. And such as is the Heavenly Man, such also are the Heavenly ones. And as we bore the image of the earthy man, we shall also bear the image of the Heavenly Man” (1 Corinthians 15:47-49 LITV).
God cannot sin, and neither can those born of His Seed, Jesus Christ:
“Everyone who has been born of God does not commit sin, because His Seed remains in him, and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God” (1 John 3:9 MKJV).
It is objected by SDA’s and many others: “Well, what was the point of Jesus being tempted? Wouldn’t it be a sham, a hypocritical show, if He couldn’t sin?” But that is a silly objection. Like putting a well built car through a crash test, knowing it will not fail and to demonstrate and prove it, so Jesus Christ was put to the test, not to see if He could do it but to demonstrate that He is Infallible God, Who alone can save us by His omnipotence and infallibility. By standing the test, He proved to mankind that, unlike all those that came before Him, He alone was and is Almighty God, able to save to the uttermost those that come to Him.
God takes a sinful man of flesh and converts him into a son of God, made in His image through Jesus Christ. He “takes clay and forms a man.” SDA’s take the sinless Son of God and present Him as a sinful man, made in their own image through their damnable religion. They take a lump of clay and form an image of God (in their carnal, finite, corrupt minds) and set to imitating it. They have brought Christ down from above, attributing a sinful nature to Him just like their own.
If Jesus had a sinful nature as the Son of God, so Adventists think, certainly they must be approved by God in their sinful natures as they bow down in the worship and service of their idol. How greatly they are mistaken! They have nothing to do with the risen Christ and His resurrection power in a new and endless life. They have not experienced the rivers of living water flowing from the innermost being. At best, they can only try to imitate and to act as though this is so.
Have you experienced rivers of water flowing from your innermost being? Have you experienced in your life and being the Personal Reality of Jesus Christ? Have you heard His Voice? Of course, you have not! If not, then how are you able to speak with authority about who are servants of God preaching the true gospel of salvation, and who are not? You don’t know what you are talking about because you are not a qualified witness. Only those empowered in His Life and appointed by Him are authorized to speak on His behalf.
No, Vanetta, you need to repent and to come down from the high seat of judgment you have assigned yourself. We cannot tolerate White’s diabolical teachings or the organization she founded, and must tell everyone so. Mrs. White stands in direct opposition to the gospel of Christ. She and her organization serve to destroy, not save, men’s souls. For more on His Holy Nature, which is our only hope of salvation, read Could Jesus Christ Have Sinned? But perhaps you are too offended now for your own good. Blessed are those who are not offended in us and what we must declare of God.
What the Lord had to say to those at the Seventh Day Adventist Church in Lethbridge, as a group and individually for some.
How self-serving are the churches of men! Here is a prime example from the SDAs that demonstrates how they will justify a wretched scoundrel rather than admit that the glorious image they maintain of themselves is a sham. The Seventh Day Adventist Church is no different than the Catholic Church it so severely criticizes for not keeping the Sabbath. Don’t let doctrines deceive you, the fruits tell the whole story.
From: Jim To: The Path of Truth Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 6:29 AM Subject: Hi Good morning, I saw something on your website that prompted the following question. The something was in regard to getting together on a sabbath afternoon for a online chat. Do you come from a SDA background or current perspective? Thanks, Jim From: Paul Cohen To: Jim Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 7:57 AM Subject: Hi Hi Jim, No, we don't come from an SDA background, nor do we recommend their religion: https://www.thepathoftruth.com/falsehood-exposed/sda/ God gave us the Sabbath - you can read about it here: https://www.thepathoftruth.com/teachings/sabbath/how-the-lord-gave-us-the-sab bath.htm Paul Cohen www.ThePathofTruth.com From: Jim To: Paul Cohen Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 3:16 PM Subject: Re: Hi Thanks Paul very much. Glad to know that you are not in that scenario. I am a evangelist to SDA. While I believe there are some genuine believers, for the most part I am not seeing many. As a side note, what I have found is practically all SDA can tell me that the Sabbath is number 4. But I have had very very few that can tell me much about the other 9. To be expected I suppose. God bless you. May Jesus be glorified in your journey. Jim From: Paul Cohen To: Jim Cc: Victor Hafichuk Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 7:20 AM Subject: Re: Hi Hi Jim, What is an evangelist to SDAs? How do you go about this? What do you say to them?...