From: Janet
To: The Path of Truth
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 12:59 AM
Subject: Confused
I just got through watching an episode of “It’s Supernatural” with Sid Roth. Obviously, you don’t like him very much. I decided to read your article which claimed to “expose” him, but nowhere in this article could I find anything specific that explained how he turned to the occult, and could not be believed/trusted. I’m not objecting to your claims; I’m just saying that you don’t seem to provide any proof for them.
So my question is simply, what things has Mr. Roth done/not done that you find objectionable? Bear in mind that I’m really not familiar with the guy at all and I’m not trying to defend him because I’ve only watched one of his shows, and it was the first time I had even heard of him. I’m just wondering why you find him to be a false prophet, or whatever. I feel that such accusations should not be made lightly, because they may be read and believed by many people without any substantiation.
Again, I would be interested in reading your explanation for your objection to Mr. Roth. For all I know, I may agree with you.
Thanks. I do not use this Gmail address for mail; if you do care to write, I can be reached at .
From: Paul Cohen and Victor Hafichuk
To: Janet
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: Confused
You most certainly are confused, Jan, but it’s not because we haven’t stated things plainly. For example, Mr. Roth himself explains about his previous connection to the occult in the link provided in the article, but that wasn’t the reason we said he couldn’t be believed/trusted.
Aren’t you aware, however, of what the Scriptures say about every man?
“But let God be true, and every man a liar; as it is written, ‘That You might be justified in Your sayings, and will overcome when You are judged’” (Romans 3:4 MKJV).
Confusion is the natural state of members of Babylon the Whore. Read the article again in its entirety more carefully this time, including the links. We’ve exposed the abomination of desolation, but you don’t see it because you’re there as well and need Repentance, not an explanation. With repentance, comes revelation, understanding and clarity. Jan, ask the Lord for His grace. He’s your only hope.
“But if any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, Who gives to all liberally and with no reproach, and it shall be given to him” (James 1:5 MKJV).
Paul and Victor
From: Janet
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: Confused
Thank you for your response. This is the only conclusion that I have come to believe about such things, and believe me, I have given the Bible, religion in general, and my own salvation a lot of thought over the years. I am not a young woman anymore, and it’s important to me that I have a relationship with the Divine, If there really is such a thing.
At any rate, it seems to me that every religion has its own holy book, its own prophets, and its own laws. What one believes seems to be predicated very much on where they were born, and what their family taught them. With this in mind, it would make sense for someone like me, a white, middle class American, to adhere to some denomination of Christianity, just as people in the Middle East are usually either Jewish or Islam, for the most part. This has absolutely nothing to do with the “truth”, however. It’s just has to do with being comfortable in your beliefs because they are supported by your own culture.
So religion can simply be a matter of comfort and convenience, rather than a genuine effort to discover truth and enlightenment, and to establish a relationship with a deity and to worship this creator, asking each day for his guidance and protection…
Very little of what I read in the Bible makes veey much sense in today’s world. Most of it seems be based on laws and recommendations that were designed to promote proper moral and personal standards, again, to protect the particular culture that one was in during those times. And even during those times, I’m sure that it was known that indiscriminate sexuality, for example, could result in children without fathers, jealousy and revenge seeking, and diseases that at that time may not have had any cures. This was intended to promote safety, good health, respect of one’s family and neighbors, and so on. Quite a few of these laws are not followed by anyone anymore, such as mixing gold thread with silver when sewing, cooking a kid (baby goat)in its mother’s milk, and so on.
So many people take a cafeteria approach to the Bible, and they pick and choose what makes sense to them, and discard the rest. My point is simply that a lot of the Bible doesn’t make a lot of sense in today’s world, and it seems to be primarily based on a combination of common sense and primitive peoples’ attempts to understand a very complicated and turbulent world. I don’t consider any of these holy books to be absolute proof in the existence of any particular deity or to support any one “true” religion. I don’t know how you could. There are too many of them, so how could you possibly make the one correct choice, given that there are so many possibilities available for one to consider?…
In this case, I’m not talking about confusion about Christianity – mainly, I was taking about my confusion about about your statements regarding Mr. Roth. I just wanted to know why you found him so objectionable… It seems like people like you or see you a Whore of Babylon behind every bush. And I find very -offensive that you insist that I seek repentance. Your know absolutely nothing about what is in my heart or my mind, and as far as I’m concerned, God gave me the ability to think, to reason, and to know the difference between right and wrong. My relationship with him is absolutely none of your business.
From: Paul Cohen
To: Janet
Cc: Victor Hafichuk
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 7:33 AM
Subject: Re[3]: Confused
Hi Jan,
Thank you for letting us know more about where you’re coming from. You’re absolutely right about the difference between being born into religion versus what Jesus called being “born again.” He talked about this when a religious leader came to Him secretly at night:
John 3:1-15 ESV
(1) Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews.
(2) This man came to Jesus by night and said to him, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher come from God, for no one can do these signs that you do unless God is with him.”
(3) Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the Kingdom of God.”
(4) Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?”
(5) Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the Kingdom of God.
(6) That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
(7) Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again’
(8) The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.”
(9) Nicodemus said to him, “How can these things be?”
(10) Jesus answered him, “Are you the teacher of Israel and yet you do not understand these things?
(11) Truly, truly, I say to you, we speak of what we know, and bear witness to what we have seen, but you do not receive our testimony.
(12) If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how can you believe if I tell you heavenly things?
(13) No one has ascended into heaven except He Who descended from heaven, the Son of Man.
(14) And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up,
(15) that whoever believes in Him may have eternal life.”
You won’t understand what the Bible is saying until you come to Him, Jan, the Lord Jesus Christ, regarding Whom the entire Bible is about – His ways and acts. Enlightenment is in Him.
I’m Jewish and was raised in the Jewish religion, which as you surely know doesn’t believe in Jesus Christ. In fact, the unifying factor of the various Jewish sects is that they don’t believe in Him. I was converted to faith in Christ, not by man or man’s religion or even by my own thinking, but by the Lord Himself. He can do that because He is God, alive and ruling over Heaven and earth. He decided to reveal Himself to me. And things have never been the same since. I was delivered from darkness and death into light and life, praise God.
So I hear you when you say, “It’s important to me that I have a relationship with the Divine, If there really is such a thing.” I was once searching for God and He showed me Who He is, was, and will be. Until you receive the truth in Him, the Lord Jesus Christ, you won’t ever be able to make heads or tails of the Bible or know anything with certainty about God and yourself as His creation.
“For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him Who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to corruption and obtain the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now” (Romans 8:20-22 ESV).
Contrary to what you say at the end of your letter, your relationship with God certainly is our business.
Matthew 28:18-20 MKJV
(18) And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, All authority is given to Me in Heaven and in earth.
(19) Therefore go and teach all nations, baptizing them in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
(20) teaching them to observe all things, whatever I commanded you. And, behold, I am with you all the days until the end of the world. Amen.
“And the things that you have heard from me among many witnesses, commit the same to faithful men who will be able to teach others also” (2 Timothy 2:2 MKJV).
You’ve stated you don’t know if He exists, so we’re here to point you to Him, Jesus Christ, your Lord and Savior, according to His command to His disciples, whom we are. Turning to Him is called “repentance.” We’ve not insisted you repent – we’ve only told you that you need to. Indeed, you can’t repent, because one can only repent by the grace, gift, and power of God, as He’s granted us and anyone else who believes Him.
“But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him” (Hebrews 11:6 MKJV).
Paul
From: Janet
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: Re[3]: Confused
I tend to repeatedly get the same run-down from you fundamentalists. You act like you’re truly interested in saving my soul, but I suspect that you really are more interested in offering smug pity towards me for being an “unrepentant” sinner. I’m well aware of the mistakes I’ve made in my life, but I don’t want to make another one by getting blindly involved with a faith that just does not speak to me. Or I should say, some of it does, but a lot of it doesn’t. Where to go with that? I don’t know, but I just don’t possess the kind of certainty that you have. I’m suspect that I’m just a lot more honest about my lack of conviction and knowledge in this area than many others, who would rather pretend that they don’t have the same doubts and questions that I have. What is faith anyway, but belief in the unknown with no empirical evidence? With that in mind, there are so many possibilities that the mind reels. You may as well throw a dart at a “wheel of faith” board. I don’t see how or why you persist in oversimplifying a very complex question, which may have multiple answers, or none at all. But good luck to you, anyway.
From: Paul and Victor
To: Janet
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 7:44 AM
Subject: Re[5]: Confused
“What is faith anyway, but belief in the unknown with no empirical evidence?”
Not so, Jan. “Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen” (Hebrews 11:1 MKJV).
We know what we’re talking about because God, although He is unseen by the physical eye, has revealed Himself to us by His Spirit in Jesus Christ.
“I’m well aware of the mistakes I’ve made in my life, but I don’t want to make another one by getting blindly involved with a faith that just does not speak to me.”
So now you’ll compound your mistakes by suspecting or assuming things about us that aren’t true, which you really don’t know for sure but only surmise according to a negative outlook and attitude that precludes the spiritual realm and truth of God in His Son and our Savior? Not good, Jan, but since you’re self-satisfied, what can we do but let you have and go your way?
We’re here not to pursue our own personal agenda; we’re here because God has sent us for those He gives to repent and for those who need to hear the unsavory truth about themselves. If you wish to continue in bitterness and cynicism, that’s your call.
Paul and Victor
From: Janet
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: Re[5]: Confused
Hey, friend. I’m not reading any of these responses, so I want you to save your efforts.
I’m going to just assume that you have my best interests at heart, and say thank you. You must be a really busy guy; trying to save souls on the internet is hard work, since there’s a lot of ill will and faithlessness everywhere in cyberspace. But sending me quotes from the bible isn’t going to get you anywhere. I first started to have my doubts in the truths as contained in the bible when I was a freshman in college, which was a VERY long time ago. Nearly fifty years later, my doubts are exactly the same. If you want to believe that every word in the bible is the divine truth, inspired by God and put into the quills of eager prophets, I am happy that your faith is so steadfast and unquestioning. I have always wanted such a faith for myself, but it does not come to me from reading the bible.
Please do not think that I mock your faith, or that I have no concern for my own soul. If I really felt that way, I wouldn’t bother writing to you and going through such an effort to explain my thoughts, doubts, and my yearning to find something like the faith that you seem to have. But a lot of what I see today which is associated with Christianity is also pushing folks into accepting that we are in the “end times.” Victor, I have seen people walking around with “the end is near” signs since I was seven or eight years old. Every few years, somebody comes up with a prophecy which indicates that the faithful should sell all that they have, leave their jobs, families, and friends, and follow Christ into … That last part, I’m not clear on. Over and over again, that prophecy keeps getting a new expiration date. Does nobody see the illogic in this?
Yes, these are hard times. Wicked times. Confusing times. But so it has been for many, many years. I should have thought that if ever the world was REALLY going to come to a crashing halt with a subsequent judgement day, World War II would have been the right time. We had antichrists in Hitler, Mussolini, and Hirohito; there was major anti-semiticism, there was war, Nazi Germany persecuted Catholics, etc. But here we are, still limping along. Now have a look at this: http://www.raptureready.com/featured/schaefer/screaming.html. More end-time prophecies. Only — this is more than 10 1/2 years old. Or we could dredge up Harold Camping and all of his false end-time projections; we all know how THAT ended — without any end times, for sure.
So the constant pushing of fear tactics generated by end-time prophecies is a real problem for me. Similarly, I am deeply concerned about a church that teaches us that two major twentieth century discoveries: evolution and psychiatry — are more machinations of the devil. So now things like schizophrenia and depression are “faith problems” instead of mental disorders. And if you don’t believe “well enough”, you are “punished” with mental illness, I assume. As for evolution, I’d be willing to accept that there is actually the possibility that a higher power and evolution can coexist without one having to negate the other. But I’m sure that this would not mesh well with your church’s teachings, because science is the ultimate anti-christ for you folks.
Again, I’m not trying to negate or belittle your faith. I’m merely trying to explain why I can’t embrace it for my own. I believe that God is able to see my confusion and my desire for truth, and he will eventually lead me on the right path. I think that your viewpoint of the almighty is a lot less forgiving and nurturing than mine is. If God has put up with his wicked creation for this many years, I think that he must love us quite a lot. This is what guides my thinking these days. And I believe that eventually, I WILL get my answer…
From: Victor Hafichuk
To: Janet
Cc: Paul Cohen
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 8:16 AM
Subject: Re[7]: Confused
I marvel at how people set up their straw man, then light a match to it, gleefully declaring they’ve told their “misguided opponents” a thing or two, so there!
I marvel at how you presume to put words in our mouths we haven’t even thought or desired to speak, then wipe your own mouth thinking you’ve done nothing wrong.
I marvel at how you so quickly and easily draw unwarranted conclusions of what we believe and teach, yet are so mistaken, proud and cocksure of your ignorance.
I marvel at how you, in your confessed darkness, can see yourself as rather wise and knowledgable while presuming to discern our alleged ignorance and foolishness.
I marvel at how you are the one contacting us, and not we you, and you reserve the right to speak, expecting us to read what you say, yet refuse to pay any attention to what we have to say. Woman, are you not egocentric and thereby heedless and confounded?
And finally, I marvel at how you still suggest that you may well want our faith, saying (whether tongue in cheek or not, I’m unsure), “I am happy that your faith is so steadfast and unquestioning. I have always wanted such a faith for myself, but it does not come to me from reading the bible.”
I’ll now use that statement as just one of the many false suppositions you make: Our faith didn’t come from reading the Bible.
Janet, does not all this make you not a marvelous woman, but a very foolish one? But we aren’t fooling.
Fifty years of doubt, and where has it gotten you? Searching, not finding, ridiculing others in darkness while being in darkness yourself? Do you honestly believe your existence is merely a game to be played, something to be toyed with in God’s sight, something you can be so reckless about? We will see, won’t we?
And do you really think you’ll be calling Him into account for it all and not be called to answer for yourself? You’ll be judging the Judge, will you? How naïve, misplaced and arrogant is that?
See, no Scriptures for you, and no attempt to convert you, internet or no internet, despite your wickedness. How’s that?
Many suppositions you have, Janet, all erroneous. But you’re the wiser. So continue the rest of your years in your cleverness and choice of directions. Perhaps you feel your knowledge and convictions have kept you in good standing before God and man in most every way. So be it. Far be it from me to argue anymore with you.
Our last letter already expressed some of these things and evidently you’ve stayed true to your claim, not having red or at least not having paid any mind to what you did read. So we’re done.
Victor Hafichuk
From: Janet
To: Victor Hafichuk
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2016 1:24 AM
Subject: Re: Re[7]: Confused
Okey-doke. My interest in our correspondence is fast coming to a halt.
As it turns out, you’re a pretty unpopular guy these days. From AquaTechnology.net:
“The spiritual illness that we observe here is that Hafichuk and Cohen concentrate on demeaning and denouncing what would appear to be sincere, dedicated Christian correspondents who collectively and individually are shocked that Hafichuk and Cohen would presume to know what is in their individual hearts and souls by condemning (or even damning) virtually every sentence and paragraph of such correspondence.”
From Ironwolf.dangerousegames.com, in an article entitled: “Idiots to Avoid: Victor Hafichuk and Paul Cohen”
“… Victor Hafichuk and Paul Cohen, two apparently inseparable buddies with beards who sell organic food and quack health gadgets, and also happen to think they, among all Christians, have been appointed by God … and have the One True way of looking at things.”
From http://www.dennis.co.nz, in an article entitled: “Analyzing Victor Hafichuk’s Ministry”:
“They ARE indeed a valid Christian Ministry but in their uniqueness they err with extreme judgmentalism, essentially born out of self-confidence that has clearly slipped into arrogance.”
From http://thesidos.blogspot.com/, in an article entitled: “Hell Hath No Fury … Like a Cultist Being Mocked!”
“I guess cult leaders Victor Hafichuk and Paul Cohen don’t like being mocked and having their false teachings called out. After a couple of posts on Lee Shelton’s website, they suddenly came back with a lengthy diatribe condemning Lee, me, Spurgeon, Augustine among others with being false teachers (Uh, Mr. Kettle, there is a Mr. Pot on the phone, something about you being black…) If I am listed in the same category as a giant of the faith like Charles Spurgeon, I must be doing something right.”
From http://www.rap-con.com/forum, in an article entitled: “Christian False Leaders Exposed”
“Was just reading through some of the information posted on the link you provided https://www.thepathoftruth.com/falseteachers/ as well as other links on the site and I question their teaching. They do not believe in the Holy Trinity and sound like they are teaching that no one will end up in Hell. Tell that to the Rich man in Luke 16:19-3.”
From an article on http://www.maxsolbrekken.com:
“False Prophets are deceived. They are Satan’s Puppets. Joseph Smith was deceived by the Devil. Others like an Organic Farmer Victor Hafichuk has strayed into his camp.”
From ministeringinlove.com, in an article entitled: “The Lake of Fire: Condemnation or Purification?”
“Whoever does not believe stands condemned because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. Simple to understand, no? Well, despite the simplicity of the message and the seriousness of the warning itself, there are those who pervert the message through minds tainted by darkness. That is where Paul Cohen and Victor Hafichuk of www.thepathoftruth.com come in. In a message which was essentially written as a response to another, they make a multitude of claims which clearly goes against the Scripture and, not surprisingly, misquote the Scripture itself.”
Well, I guess you get the point. You’re probably already aware of most if not all of these articles, and/or the individuals who wrote them. I just found it quite interesting that these writers described interactions that were very similar to my experiences in dealing with you.
I can fully understand and respect that your interpretation of scriptures and doctrine might not mesh well with the interpretations of these folks and others. Reasonable men may differ on matters of faith. However, my emphasis is on the word “reasonable.” You don’t just disagree, you insult and demean. I do not understand this, because it seems to contradict many of the Bible’s quotations on how we should treat others. “Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.” – Ephesians 4:32. “This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you.” – John 15:12. “And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them.” – Luke 6:31. “If anyone says, ‘I love God,’ and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen.” – 1John 4:20.
You seem to lack the joy that I would think I might find in someone who has truly given his life to God. Instead, you seem angry and demeaning of those who question your teachings/beliefs. Such attitudes only serve to demean you, and they detract from your teachings. Instead, the focus is on your attempts to discredit and undermine those who disagree with you.
After this, I will have nothing further to say to you on matters of faith. We are on vastly different paths, and there is absolutely no chance that you will ever be able to reroute me to the narrow road that you travel. I can only say in closing to beware that you may accidentally get a taste someday of the poison you dip your pen in so often …