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Returning Evil for Good, Plunging Into Darkness

From: Margaret
To: The Path of Truth
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 3:59 PM
Subject: Charismatic Church

I have two daughters who have been drawn into a church in Walnut Grove in B.C Canada called the River.  I am very unnerved by the underlining control of the pastors who refuse to call themselves pastors and think that the Holy Spirit comes upon them and others to anoint and then leaves after.  It is run by the “pastor’s wife” Heidi who is in constant conversation with the Holy Spirit saying this is what the spirit says about you and only giving a half truth on it.  Saying someone out there is having trouble with….and then going on to say she knows the answer in a I know it all for the spirit only talks to me about your needs.  Then they get up there and say put your hands on so and so and pray his illness is gone and when it is not they pray again harder.  

It is legalism and they stand up there and put down other faiths as a means to justify theirs   All of them worship Heidi and have her as a high priest going to her in all life matters.  I have seen my girls get sicker physically and emotionally.  Thinking there is something wrong with them if they don’t cure themselves.  They judge others in a very condensing manner as if they are special group.  They are closed off to anyone other than this church.  They pray in tongues and will not let any outsiders in to inner groups.  

I spoke a truth once and my daughter whom I was staying with left at her place and went to Heidi and she came back and said Heidi said to tell me to leave that I could be dropped off at side of the road as if I was some sort of evil presence.  Which is the other thing that is upsetting is their focus on satan and praying against him as if he is active in everything that is not in their thinking.  They read books about spiritual warfare and the ten steps to…John Bevere’s book the bait of satan.  Saying if you don’t speak in tongues you are not of God and if I don’t tithe above the 10% I am wrong.  

I have prayed over this and God has made it very clear to me not to move to the area my daughters are in whiich after many years of not wanting in their lives they suddenly do.  I think it is because I was a doormat and took on their worry etc…to use me to take on all they do not want while they go off and have fun in this.  

God has lead me to many scriptures on warning if I do go it would be in in disobeying Him and would not end well for me.  He has reassured me that He will save my children and return them from the land that holds them captive.  To stay ion this land and make a way for them here upon their return not promising that I would be here when they return but the land would be for them.  This was hard for me to accept but I knew it was of God for me and I would be a stumbling block and scapegoat to justify this cult thinking if I went.  

To go on with my life here alone without them but what do I do for worry is not an option nor do I need to when God is in control.  What do I pray for, how do I pray for them.  At times I feel is alone in this and helpless yet I know I stand in the power and promises of God and HIs Holy Spirit to enable me.  Any guidance would be of great help.  I visited just before Christmas and to me I am standing watching my girls regress not knowing how to help them except trust God to handle this now.  It was like being on the outside of a codependent relationship. 

I stumbled across your web by asking if the John Bevere book The Bait of Satan was all about twisted truth for his own gain.

Thank-you Margaret

From: Paul Cohen and Victor Hafichuk
To: Margaret
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: Charismatic Church

“He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who does not take up his cross and follow Me is not worthy of Me” (Matthew 10:37-38 MKJV)

Hi Margaret, 

I’ll cut to the chase here – you need to forsake your children and leave them to the Lord to deal with as He sees fit. You don’t need to worry about how to pray for them, which is just another way of hanging on to them while the Lord moves on without you. Let your prayer and life be summed up as, “Your will be done, Lord.” 

Consider: Do you see Jesus worried about His earthly family in the Scriptures? They were worried about Him! 

Matthew 12:46-50 MKJV
(46)  But while He yet talked with the people, behold, His mother and His brothers stood outside, desiring to speak with Him.
(47)  Then one said to Him, Behold, Your mother and Your brothers stand outside, desiring to speak with You.
(48)  And He answered and said to him who told Him, Who is My mother? And who are My brothers?
(49)  And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, Behold, My mother and My brothers!
(50)  For whoever shall do the will of My Father in Heaven, the same is My brother and sister and mother.

Have you experienced the fellowship of the saints, the Body of Christ? If so, you should know that believers are your family. If you don’t know this, you need to repent. 

This isn’t to say you shouldn’t ever talk to your children, but let them come to you, and stop pining after them. God will reconcile ALL people to Himself in the ages to come, your children included. And if He said they’ll return in this life, believe Him and leave it alone. Obey Him, not only in the letter, but in the spirit of His commandment to you. Consider and be vigilant. 

“You shall have no other gods before Me” (Exodus 20:3 MKJV).

Read Choose This Day Between Family and God.

Also, if your report is true, the group and the woman Heidi your daughters are involved with are in great delusion. There is nothing of God there whatsoever. 

Paul and Victor

From: Margaret
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: Charismatic Church

Thank-you very much for confirming what the Lord has been saying to me in scripture over the last few months. It is a choice and I chose to obey God.  God has been preparing me for a move and a new direction for my life.  I knew it was a move He called to me to that would not include family that He was asking me to leave them and let Him deal with them good or bad I was to obey and go where He now would lead me.  God assured me He would save them and bring them out of the land that held them captive but that it would not be in my lifetime and I was to leave the land He would be giving me to tend as an inheritance so when He drew them out of the land they would have a place to go to.

As The Lord lead me in scripture He revealed several warnings to me and if I failed to obey it would not end well and this rested now in my decision.  He has reassured me He would take care of me and today He has never failed to daily meet my needs.  A recent event involving my children and their stand forced me to stand either for God and His righteousness or side with them. I told them I could no longer go along with this family deceit nor would I be moving out there and would no longer take on their financial mistakes.  I told them that I would let them know where I ended up and they   

I was weighed down like a heavy darkness had engulfed me and I realized I needed to could always visit me but I knew that they would not I knew this stand I was called to was requiring me alone to go. I confessed all I had done to the Lord and laid my life down as His now to do as He willed and His will now for my children.  God was also very clear that I was being removed as I was enabling and becoming more of a stumbling block.  I feel more at peace I now know I will OK now and do not need any idol above my Father.  I have felt the presence of Christ indwelling and enriching me through scripture building me strong for the move ahead one I shall make alone in the Spirit lead by the Spirit for Christ.  

I am humbled how arrogant I have been to think I knew the way over my Father.  It was right and good He remove from my family.  Today when I read you response to me I knew it was of God fully for it confirmed this is very serious and not following Him fully will cost me my life and theirs for generations.  I shall continue to read off your web site as I great peace and contentment it is of the Lord for me to learn from as I go forward.  May God Bless You Your Sister In Christ Margaret  

From: Paul and Victor
To: Margaret
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 7:49 AM
Subject: Re[3]: Charismatic Church

Bless the Lord, Margaret. Your testimony witnesses with us. We’re here for you as Christ’s brothers in the same walk of forsaking the world and fellowshipping with the saints in His Kingdom. 

As you read the website, join the Forum – you’re invited to our Bible readings by conference call, with details posted there. Let us know if you need help with that, or if you’re interested in joining us at our weekly Sabbath meetings, every Saturday noon MST for several hours in a text chatroom on our site. 

As an aside, your letter contains a couple sentences that are disjointed. It seems the two portions highlighted below in yellow are one sentence, with an unfinished sentence between those segments highlighted in blue. We generally understand what you’re trying to say there, but if you think it would help to explain more, please do.   

Paul and Victor

From: Margaret
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 10:57 PM
Subject: Re: Charismatic Church

Thanks for your thoughts it has helped me discern my next step, I will pass on your offer to join in any calls or on line forums.  I was simply seeking to confirm something no more.  I would appreciate no more contact form your organization.

From: Paul and Victor
To: Margaret
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 7:57 AM
Subject: Re[5]: Charismatic Church

Margaret, you’re worse than the nine lepers who didn’t return to thank God for what Christ did for them. You thank us insincerely and without recognition that it was the Lord Who gave us what we gave you. The way you’re treating us is the way you’re treating Him. Therefore you will have no more contact from Him, because He has granted your request.

Paul and Victor

From: Margaret
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: Re[5]: Charismatic Church

 You are in a delusion and a state of non-reality.  You pray on innocent people and the minute they go against your reality you lash out condemning them.  You have no sense of respecting boundaries and that is a sign of immaturity , insecurity, and a person who as repressed anger issues.  If you attempt to contact me again I will call the police.  Have I made myself clear.  Jesus set up our legal system to protect us from individuals like yourself.   I will be reporting you to an organization that tracks your cult activities.  One you have responded to in the past in a most vile ill fitting manner which suggests you follow Satan not Our Lord Jesus Christ who indwells all true followers.  NOW HAVE I MADE MYSELF CLEAR> GET BEHIND ME SATAN>

From: Margaret
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 3:48 PM
Subject: re: Cult Leader Paul Cohen

I made a terrible error in thinking that they were Christians and I e-mailed and asked a question of them and in response I got a huge e-mail on how I was to repent or else.  This was very upsetting to me and if I had of been a lesser mature Christian it would have been devastating.  I e-mailed them back and said I wanted no contact from them basically I was setting boundaries.  They ignored my request of no contact and send me a condemning response saying Jesus has answered my request but the cost is He (Jesus) has disowned me and will have nothing more to do with me.  I have responded in a firmer boundary letting them know God actually put our legal system in place to protect us from people who bully and threaten others and if they continue to harass me I will contact the police.  I am telling you this so you can warn others about their web site.  Thanks

From: Margaret
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 8:08 PM
Subject: Harassment

To follow-up so my point is crystal clear to your organization.  I stand in full authority of Jesus Christ by His indwelling spirit that if you contact me again with your condemning e-mails that I will go to the police and the newspaper and social media to expose your organization for what it is.  I pray God has mercy upon your souls. For me asking an innocent question and getting a rebuke based on twisted scripture caused red flags and a polite e-mail was sent to your organization asking for no contact yet you were are unable to respect the request.   I don’t normally respond but the Lord has commanded I respond. I am not so easily intimidated by bullies. Who do you think you are to judge others, shame on you for as you judge so shall you will be judged and what you spoke over me shall be done to you and for eternity you will be without the Lord’s presence. He has revealed only to stand up to your garbage and let you know if you contact me again I will let the police the newspapers in Alberta and Montana and social media decide if how you respond to people is not bullying in its finest form.  The Lord takes protecting His children from people like you very seriously.  That is why we have the legal system we do.  I have e-mailed in response to Paul Cohen’s condemning e-mails of me as a person three times, because as we know sometimes the Lord will repeat it three times so we get the message clearly so there is no misunderstanding of what I am saying to you. It is you who the Lord is calling to repent and now before more judgement falls on your heads.  Do not contact me in any way e-mails nothing if you do I will assume you are unable to understand social boundaries and that is something the police will need to know about. MAY GOD BLESS YOU.

From: Paul and Victor
To: Margaret
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: Cult Leader Paul Cohen/Harassment

“The wicked flee when no man pursues; but the righteous are bold as a lion”

(Proverbs 28:1 MKJV).

Yes, you’ve made yourself clear, Margaret. You’re a wicked, foolish woman, frightened on account of an evil conscience and the unreal imaginations of a corrupt heart.  

So follow through on your threat and take this correspondence to your local police, the social media, and the religious organization you say we’ve written about. We have nothing to be ashamed of by responding to your request for help by giving you godly counsel borne out in the Scriptures. You even confirmed we spoke the truth, after which we invited you to share in more with those who gather with us in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ. What’s wrong with that? You should be ashamed of the way you’ve treated Him. 

“But the LORD is still in the city; He does what is right and never what is wrong. Every morning without fail, He brings justice to His people. And yet the unrighteous people there keep on doing wrong and are not ashamed” (Zephaniah 3:5 GNB).

Paul Cohen and Victor Hafichuk

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