Print Friendly, PDF & Email

Do Men of God Walk in the Flesh?

From: Kelly
To: The Path of Truth
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 12:01 PM
Subject: Hi! I attend TSC

Hi! I’m 52 yrs of age. I’ve spent most of my life seeking Truth. The Lord is good! Peter failed, but chose to be forgiven over & over & over. Paul & the disciples were not always correct, but they submitted to grace. 

My experience at TSC is the same. All churches are run by humans who are not always speaking for The Lord. If it were a 100% all the time submission we would all eventually end up on auto-pilot. Or end up worshipping the Staff & not The Lord. It’s a ‘living’ word because we have to always be collecting more manna. 

I have had The Lord speak directly just to me through the pastors at TSC, I have also witnessed times when I was pretty sure that they were speaking from the flesh. Yes, the Bible says that teachers are held accountable for what they say, but! The hearer is also called to 1.) pray for those in authority 2.) pray for wisdom & insight to know when a word is from The Lord or not 3.) spend time alone with The Lord. (In the banking industry, tellers who are money handlers can tell a counterfeit bill by simply handling lots of legitimate bills, they know the difference through experience.) 

There have been times at TSC when I say, “Lord, I think he is speaking in the flesh.” & then I lift it up to The Lord. A week later, that same Pastor will admit & apologize for speaking in the flesh. It’s The Lord! We are called both as givers & receivers to always be seeking truth. It’s accountability at it’s best. The Lord is good! We are not. Jesus said, “No one is good except the Father.”  

Humility is key. I have wondered about Dave Wilkerson’s passing in an accident too. He was a strong & opinionated (at times) man. I’m sad that Gwen maybe suffered but thankful that the truck driver was not injured. It’s not for us to judge. A wise man Gamaliel once said, “If it’s not from The Lord it will fizzle & die. If it is from The Lord, there is nothing you can do to stop it.” 

My prayers are for, not against, the Pastors at Times Square Church. If they fail it’s because we as a congregation failed to pray for them. It’s a blessing walking to church. & worshipping with 2000 voices. And getting a msg that many times seems tailored just for me, in a beautiful Broadway Theatre that seems like it was always intended to be a house of worship!!

All best in The Lord! 

Sincerely, 

Kelly

From: Paul Cohen
To: Kelly
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 7:07 AM
Subject: Re: Hi! I attend TSC

Hi Kelly, Paul Cohen here. 

I’m 59, and began searching in earnest for the Truth around 38 years ago. It wasn’t long before I found Him, because He had put that search in me and meant for it to be consummated. I’ve not been searching since, though learning and discipled by the Lord Jesus Christ Who took over my life. 

Yes, men fail, but God never fails. Peter was transformed after he received the Holy Spirit, and I don’t see him failing over and over again, as you say. He was rebuked and corrected in the matter of the Judaizers, but that was an exception, not the rule. The notion you have that men of God are often speaking in the flesh is the product of being in the works of men, which are fleshly. That’s what we saw and had to say from the Lord about David Wilkerson and the Times Square Church. 

You’re still searching because you’re “always learning and never able to arrive at a knowledge of the Truth” (2 Timothy 3:7 ESV). You haven’t come through the cross of Christ, Kelly. You’re not in the Temple of God – you’re in the outer court, of which it is said:

“But leave out the court which is outside the temple, and do not measure it, for it was given to the nations. And they will trample the holy city forty-two months” (Revelation 11:2 MKJV).

If you’re going to judge matters by the words of Gamaliel, you should consider following more popular preachers, like Joseph Prince, Joel Osteen, or the newest sensation, Clayton Jennings. Better yet, become a Muslim, and join the fastest growing religion in the world, one with quite the staying power; it’s been around now for at least 1300 years. 

Paul 

From: Kelly
To: Paul Cohen
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: Hi! I attend TSC

Actually I am not still searching just still seeking His truth in my life. The ‘church’ has never been perfect. In Revelations the only church to receive a pat on the back was Philadelphia which was a very small community. 

Thank you though for sharing your testimony. 

Pope Frances is the false prophet mentioned in Revelations & Putin will eventually succumb to a sword wound. In 2013 the Jewish people were granted permission to rebuild the temple on the Temple Mt in Jerusalem. 

Interesting times:) The Lord is good!!

All Best, Kelly 

Ps. A Muslim man in a deli I frequent asked me to come to a hospital & pray for his 83 yr old father who was diagnosed with stomach cancer and there was no treatment. I put my hand on his stomach & prayed The Lord’s Prayer. 3 days later he was fine & left the hospital & the doctors had no explanation. For someone who knows Jesus personally you seem to be very negative. Getting to know Him has been changing me for the better ever since

From: Victor Hafichuk
To: Kelly
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 7:17 AM
Subject: Re[3]: Hi! I attend TSC

You’re already a Muslim, Kelly, part of the universal family of anti-Christ with all its internal squabbles and contradictions.

Paul

From: Kelly
To: Victor Hafichuk
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: Re[3]: Hi! I attend TSC

Btw. Keith Green died in an accident & his worship music is a blessing. If you are what a Christian is then I’m ok with being a Muslim. But Yeshua knows what I mean. He is awesome. You, however, are way off base. I’m not worried. The Lord is good. Satan, the blood of Yeshua is against you. 

All best, Kelly 

From: Kelly
To: Victor Hafichuk
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: Re[3]: Hi! I attend TSC

Actually Vlad Putin who is a sword fighter by sport is a good contender for the guy who will host the anti-Christ & this Pope Francis is most likely the False Prophet mentioned in Revelations. The Jewish people mourned a great loss for 70 yrs(one generation) & in 2013 were granted permission to rebuilt the temple on the Temple Mount. For those who have ears to hear:) microchip only works in the back of the hand or forehead as a barcode scan. If that it not interesting enough. The Lord Yeshua is good, we live in interesting times. The Harvest is most important (to those who truly know Christ). 

I work 70 yards from where a bomb car was parked & designed to go off at 6PM, which is when I finish work. The Lord is good, it never went off & they caught the guy who built it:)

The Lord Yeshua reigns. 

From: Victor Hafichuk
To: Kelly
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 7:33 AM
Subject: Re[6]: Hi! I attend TSC

You’ve been warned about your wickedness, Kelly. Don’t count on future escapes. 

Luke 13:1-5 MKJV
(1)  And some were present at the same time reporting to Him of the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices.
(2)  And answering, Jesus said to them, Do you suppose that these Galileans were sinners above all the Galileans because they suffered such things?
(3)  I tell you, No. But unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.
(4)  Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them, do you think that they were sinners above all men who lived in Jerusalem?
(5)  I tell you, No. But unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.

Victor Hafichuk

From: Kelly
To: Victor Hafichuk
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: Re[6]: Hi! I attend TSC

Satan, because we know that is your real name, the Blood of Yeshua is against you. The Lord wants Paul & his friend Viktur to see the Kingdom too. All Hail King Yeshua!

Related posts:

Believe the Lord or Believe Lies
English - Spanish From: Court To: The Path of Truth Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 10:08 AM Subject: Question I was reading an article you wrote on John Piper being a false teacher, and I had a question about it. Before I ask the question I would like to make clear that I am familiar with Piper, but do not completely know his doctrine. I have only watched a few short videos of him on youtube. However, your criticism of him as a false teacher revolved around the fact that he preaches about a place of eternal punishment for nonbelievers (Hell) as you can read from your own writing:  One of the biggest and worst lies ever told in manmade Christianity, one that John Piper subscribes to and teaches, is that there is a place of interminable torment and punishment for sinners. Men think to find this doctrine in the Bible, but while it is something the carnal man would wish on others, it is surely not something God has ever said or that ever entered into His mind. He made creation as an act of His love. He so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son for it. We are His, bought and paid for by His blood. I was wondering where you got the idea that there is no hell, based on the fact that there are numerous verses in The Bible - some even spoken by Jesus, whom you believe to be God, as I also do - about the existence of a place of eternal punishment for people who do not believe in Christ. See a few examples, of many, below: Revelation 21:8 But as for the co...
No ConfíES en Tus Sentimientos 
English - Spanish De: Tonya Para: Paul Cohen Enviado: Sábado 23 de Enero, 2016 12:27 AM Asunto: Hola, ¿me puedes dar tu consejo?  Hola, mi nombre es Tonya, tengo 35 años y crecí sin conocer a Dios en una casa con 6 niños y mi papá era divorciado y mis 2 hermanos y yo estábamos con él cuando conoció a una novia que tenía 3 hijos y ellos estuvieron juntos por 13 años. Ambos permanecieron juntos muy infelices, excepto por nosotros los niños. Hacia el final, ambos al mismo tiempo, conocieron a otras personas en línea y se separaron y durante los últimos 15 años ambos han estado muy felices ahora. Siento que esto ha jugado un papel en mi vida ya que estoy en la misma situación, como también lo están mis otros hermanos y hermana que están en relaciones. Es triste cómo eso sucede y yo no quiero esto para mis hijos. Yo conocí a mi esposo a los 19 años, ningunos de nosotros conocíamos a Dios. Terminamos casándonos 2 años después y tuve nuestro primer hijo justo antes de casarnos. Él se unió al ejército por 4 años. Tenemos 3 hijos y hemos estado juntos 16 años, casados por 14.  Hemos tenidos muchos problemas durante estos años comenzando después de que nuestro primer hijo nació. Empeoraron y él hizo algunas cosas mientras estaba fuera del país; luego se volvió adicto a los juegos. El siempre ha jugado juegos desde el principio, pero las cosas empeoraron. Recientemente, él gasto más de 2000 en 2 meses en su juego que juega sin parar. Eso es muy malo y le ha quitado la vida y n...
Dan Mohler's Lovely Mark of the Beast
From: Katie To: The Path of Truth Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 11:22 AM Subject: Dan moehler I am not sure if this is an old site,but Dan Moehler ,being used by The Father has turned my life around. My marriage is healed and so is my heart,Jesus has used Dan as a vessel,and I am so grateful,noone will tell me different, the devil is a liar... I am living a life without fear and filled with love and I am so grateful to My Lord Jesus Christ who now  lives alive in me..I am living Christianity now not just talking about it.. May The Lord bless you in all things, I know Dan Moehler still loves you with all his heart...God bless ,and may peace be with you.... From: Paul Cohen and Victor Hafichuk To: Katie Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 6:53 AM Subject: Re: Dan moehler “There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way to death” (Proverbs 16:25 ESV). We understand, Katie, about how things may have taken a turn for the better in your life, but as good as that may be, Dan Mohler isn’t building on the Only True Foundation Stone, the Lord Jesus Christ, and you aren’t either if you’re following Dan. He’s preaching another “Jesus,” one that performs impressive wonders but doesn’t bring you into the salvation of Christ.  2 Thessalonians 2:8-12 MKJV (8)  And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the breath of His mouth and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming, (9)  whose coming is according to the ...

Leave a Reply

You have to agree to the comment policy.