A man of sound mind speaking to a world in great darkness. Britain appears given over to demons of pride, false morality, foolishness, indeed, madness. A spirit of lawlessness and arrogance tramples upon humanity void of reason, ignorant of reality and of the Law and Wisdom of God.
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Dennis Prager Tell It Like It Is To Those Who Don't Know
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Victor Hafichuk
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Re: Dennis Prager Tell It Like It Is To Those Who Don't Know
Wow...awesome (and brave) speech.
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Paul Cohen
Re: Dennis Prager Tell It Like It Is To Those Who Don't Know
Yes, a man of sound mind before a mad crowd. There was a golden opportunity Prager missed, however, though I understand how. It was during this exchange, where a women challenged him by asking:
"All of the organizations you're citing as a threat to peace just happen to be Arab and/or Muslim. Can you explain to me why you think that might be the case that you only view these organizations as threats to people."
Prager answered:
"The only beheading groups in the world today, to the best of my knowledge, are Arab or Muslim."
The woman asked:
"Why do you think that is - in your estimation?"
And Prager replied:
"Because the Arab world is a benighted place at this time."
The reason the Arab world is benighted is because they follow Muhammad and his devil-god, Allah. And the reason Prager didn't say this is because he thinks Islam can be reformed. (See http://www.dennisprager.com/can-islam-be-reformed/.) In other words, Prager believes Islam is agreeable with the precepts and morals pronounced by the God of Abraham through Moses and demonstrated by Jesus Christ, Lord and Savior of all men. Nothing could be further from the truth - Islam is a law unto itself serving corrupt man, originating with a lying criminal. To consider Islam reformable is indeed among the deadliest of errors.
How far this British audience has come from the sentiments of their most famous statesman, Winston Churchill:
"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries, improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.
"A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
"Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome."
And while Islam is darkness itself, how tragic for England to have turned its back on the light they had been given through the believers in Christ who served as good leaven in their land. Woe to them now! I'm reminded of these words of the Lord:
"The light of the body is the eye. Therefore if your eye is sound, your whole body shall be full of light. But if your eye is evil, your whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in you is darkness, how great is that darkness!" (Matthew 6:22-23 MKJV)
"All of the organizations you're citing as a threat to peace just happen to be Arab and/or Muslim. Can you explain to me why you think that might be the case that you only view these organizations as threats to people."
Prager answered:
"The only beheading groups in the world today, to the best of my knowledge, are Arab or Muslim."
The woman asked:
"Why do you think that is - in your estimation?"
And Prager replied:
"Because the Arab world is a benighted place at this time."
The reason the Arab world is benighted is because they follow Muhammad and his devil-god, Allah. And the reason Prager didn't say this is because he thinks Islam can be reformed. (See http://www.dennisprager.com/can-islam-be-reformed/.) In other words, Prager believes Islam is agreeable with the precepts and morals pronounced by the God of Abraham through Moses and demonstrated by Jesus Christ, Lord and Savior of all men. Nothing could be further from the truth - Islam is a law unto itself serving corrupt man, originating with a lying criminal. To consider Islam reformable is indeed among the deadliest of errors.
How far this British audience has come from the sentiments of their most famous statesman, Winston Churchill:
"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries, improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.
"A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
"Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome."
And while Islam is darkness itself, how tragic for England to have turned its back on the light they had been given through the believers in Christ who served as good leaven in their land. Woe to them now! I'm reminded of these words of the Lord:
"The light of the body is the eye. Therefore if your eye is sound, your whole body shall be full of light. But if your eye is evil, your whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in you is darkness, how great is that darkness!" (Matthew 6:22-23 MKJV)
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Emmanuel Okpanachi
Re: Dennis Prager Tell It Like It Is To Those Who Don't Know
'To consider Islam reformable is indeed among the deadliest of errors.'
Yes, Paul. To consider Islam as reformable is to consider the carnal 'man of sin' as something which can be changed by man's efforts. I have read Prager's propositions for the reformation of Islam, and it's all about men's efforts - what they can do or implement, whether collaboratively or individually.
Prager doesn't recognise the solution to the problem of Islam - which itself is just a facade of the actual problem, which is, the 'man of sin'. The solution, as we know, is God, and Him only.
The 'structure' of the man of sin needs to be demolished. Why build upon such a derelict monstrosity? Better to tear it all down, and build afresh. Yes, the whole thing should be torn down, and something entirely new put in its place. Not mere refurbishment or renovation or reformation (as Prager would have it) but complete reconstruction. New wine into new wineskins.
Islam, like man's nature, is utterly and intrinsically corrupt. How can one possibly reform it? How can man tame the 'man of sin' - the beast that is within him, and infact is him? If he can't reform himself, how does he propose to tame the external beast of Islam?
A much more effective work than reformation is needed. Water is not enough to cleanse man's deeply contaminated, sinful nature. That sinful nature is the root problem (which Prager doesn't recognise) and Islam is just a symptom of that problem. The means through which that problem is addressed and corrected, is not just through the usage of water, but the additional element of fire. Do not the Scriptures express that a thorough cleansing is needed, with fire? God cleansed the world first with water, and now it is to be cleansed with fire, before the Kingdom of God can inhabit it. And we can see that there is a parallel. A parallel between the Kingdom of God being established on earth, and it being estabished in an individual. Both must be cleansed, before being divinely dwelled in.
Prager seems to think that Islam is simply rough around the edges, and only needs a bit of shaping and sharpening up. But rather than try to alter - through reformation - the misshapen circle that is Islam, one needs to look at the people behind the Islamic ideology. They are the problem. The carnal men, the men of sin. These need to be made into new shapes, new creatures, through the transformative Spirit of God.
Yes, Paul. To consider Islam as reformable is to consider the carnal 'man of sin' as something which can be changed by man's efforts. I have read Prager's propositions for the reformation of Islam, and it's all about men's efforts - what they can do or implement, whether collaboratively or individually.
Prager doesn't recognise the solution to the problem of Islam - which itself is just a facade of the actual problem, which is, the 'man of sin'. The solution, as we know, is God, and Him only.
The 'structure' of the man of sin needs to be demolished. Why build upon such a derelict monstrosity? Better to tear it all down, and build afresh. Yes, the whole thing should be torn down, and something entirely new put in its place. Not mere refurbishment or renovation or reformation (as Prager would have it) but complete reconstruction. New wine into new wineskins.
Islam, like man's nature, is utterly and intrinsically corrupt. How can one possibly reform it? How can man tame the 'man of sin' - the beast that is within him, and infact is him? If he can't reform himself, how does he propose to tame the external beast of Islam?
A much more effective work than reformation is needed. Water is not enough to cleanse man's deeply contaminated, sinful nature. That sinful nature is the root problem (which Prager doesn't recognise) and Islam is just a symptom of that problem. The means through which that problem is addressed and corrected, is not just through the usage of water, but the additional element of fire. Do not the Scriptures express that a thorough cleansing is needed, with fire? God cleansed the world first with water, and now it is to be cleansed with fire, before the Kingdom of God can inhabit it. And we can see that there is a parallel. A parallel between the Kingdom of God being established on earth, and it being estabished in an individual. Both must be cleansed, before being divinely dwelled in.
Prager seems to think that Islam is simply rough around the edges, and only needs a bit of shaping and sharpening up. But rather than try to alter - through reformation - the misshapen circle that is Islam, one needs to look at the people behind the Islamic ideology. They are the problem. The carnal men, the men of sin. These need to be made into new shapes, new creatures, through the transformative Spirit of God.