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Retirement Savings

Postby Andrew Battaglia » Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:06 am



Hi everyone,

I have a question regarding retirement savings plans for my mom as well as myself. Back in 2011, I was working in the finance industry and sold my mom a retirement plan (Roth IRA) to supplement her 401(k) from work, and now that we are where the Lord has us on this journey, we began to question it. We have already reduced insurance down to the minimum required and stopped the ones that weren't necessary but now this scenario came up and there were a few directions to go and we wanted some advice. Due to it being a retirement savings plan, there would be a penalty for taking the money out before 59 1/2 years old (10% I believe), so the question becomes should she take it out immediately and pay the penalty, wait until she reaches the proper age (approximately 7 more years), or any other option not mentioned.

I was also paying into a retirement plan at work so this is relevant for me as well, although I have taken the matter before the Lord and believe that I should be focusing on Him to keep me wherever He will have me at any time in my life, therefore, I am no longer contributing.

Regarding the matter with her retirement plan, we both feel that it should be stopped and just pay the penalty because we don't want to be investing in the stock market any longer but we wanted to bring the matter here before moving forward.

Thank You, Lord, for Your guidance and instruction.
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Re: Retirement Savings

Postby Isaiah Dillard » Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:11 am



Thanks for initiating with this post Andrew. These are a couple subject items I ponder as well.

With the knowledge given from TPOT, The Lord has granted the faith to make my required insurance the minimal amount, and I am in the process of cancelling life insurance policy (my job actually automatically provides a free one, which has helped give my wife comfort as she grows).

401k has been the one I've been double minded on. Initially my thought 2 months ago was stop completely, then after evaluating my stance has changed, and looking for Godly counsel. The reason is the company I work for matches up to 6%. We have a goal to get out of debt, and in times have borrowed from our 401k to pay back other debtors (from the massive debt we brought into our marriage), and to use as a savings account. I have made modifications to the allocation to where it's in the safest investment (no additional return outside of what is put in, and has lowest fee penalty, which turns out profitable). If it were a situation where my company wasn't matching, I'd have nothing to do with it, but due to the free money given (beneficial for them for tax write off and employer competition), I place an amount in there, never exceeding the 6%.

Thank you for your time and any wisdom and correction that can be given
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Re: Retirement Savings

Postby Lidia Hoar » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:38 pm



I'm glad this is being brought up too because I have also been trying to decide to cancel the life ins. Policy I have. I get a free one from my work, but purchased additional one from credit union a few years ago. My husband also has one at his job. If my husband wants to keep his, as his wife, should I say anything to him? He is not a believer so I don't think he would accept me saying to rely on the Lord. What should I do if he is not agreeable to me cancelling the policy I took out either? I am not looking for answers but more of understanding on how I should look at things and using scripture to begin to discern matters. I have not brought this up yet to my husband so he may very well agree. He has been ok with all changes till now. Thank you for bringing this up Andrew.
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Re: Retirement Savings

Postby Victor Hafichuk » Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:55 pm



Each one must make their own decision on anything, including insurance. Marilyn and I have purchased only compulsory insurance for decades now.

I look at insurance in very simple terms. If God is against me, insurance will not save or help; if He is for me, HE is my Insurance; I don't need the vain help of man who sells me insurance, not for my sake but his own.

Does that mean you are trusting the Lord by not buying insurance? Not necessarily.

Does it mean you'll have expenses that insurance could have paid for if you decide not to buy it? Likely, but paying your own expenses is far cheaper than having someone sell you a plan. Save for "rainy days." In other words, do your own insurance.

And if you happen to be poor, but have faith and walk in obedience (no faith without obedience), God will take care of it should a need arise. "No good thing will He withhold from them that walk uprightly."

Do you think the widow who gave her two mites needed insurance? Do you think her needs weren't met? If you think either of these, you simply do not believe.

If you don't believe, fat lot of good your insurance will do you, no matter how comprehensive! You're dead.
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Re: Retirement Savings

Postby Paul Cohen » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:17 pm



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Re: Retirement Savings

Postby Andrew Battaglia » Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:45 pm



Thank you for the clarification, Paul. I will look into it further and see what it is being invested in. Maybe a phone call to discuss it as well sometime tomorrow.
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Re: Retirement Savings

Postby Mark Pearson » Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:57 pm



I'm aware that many investment vehicles, where a consumer puts in money, and an account manager invests the money best he can, will usually put part of the money into investment avenues which gain the most & fastest, which usually include investments in high yielding companies like Planned Parenthood, and others that promote abortion, pornography, and entertainment drugs and alcohol?

I wonder how much we are unintended contributors with our money market accounts and savings accounts?

Mark
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Re: Retirement Savings

Postby Paul Cohen » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:24 am



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Re: Retirement Savings

Postby Dan Long » Thu Sep 28, 2017 3:38 pm



Lest you forget:

27 Well then, you should have put my money on deposit with the bankers, so that when I returned I would have received it back with interest.

Though the point is to use what God has given you (all things) for His increase, not yours.


and by the way Planned Parenthood is NOT under the same status as churches, churches have no requirement to be under the jurisdiction of 501(c)(3), evil men pushed that falsehood.....
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Re: Retirement Savings

Postby Brandon LaBerteaux » Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:39 am



Dan Long, what you are quoting is a parable regarding spiritual matters, not a literal commandment by the Lord Jesus Christ to invest in the banks to receive interest. How is it that you don't understand the nature of these parables?

Regarding tax exemption statuses, while there is no law requiring that man-made churches be tax-exempt, many if not all register to be tax-exempt. And yes, Planned Parenthood and religious institutions fall under the same tax exemption status 501(c)(3) in the United States.

Sources:

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Re: Retirement Savings

Postby Dan Long » Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:35 pm



Brandon, who said I don't understand the "nature" of Jesus parables except you? I understand that you all are hamstrung by your devotion to the Mosaic law of which you have no part, but what is that to me.

Obviously, if all you can come up with is a link to the IRS, then you haven't studied the tax law regarding churches which are Constitutionally exempt. The 501(c)(3) was created by Lyndon Johnson to gag pastors from saying anything political from the pulpit... study a little, you might learn something....
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