Paul wrote this response to a message verifying that he is “a real live human being and not a spam source”:
I am a real live human being, by the grace of God and the life in His Son, Jesus Christ.
Hassan sent this response:
Yes, a son, a prophet, peace be upon Jesus, but not literally God’s son… that is a fabrication. Ask the top Christian scholar in the world. All the best to you. May God Almighty guide you.
You were going to answer The Answer to Islam, even referring to this correspondence as the “ultimate debate.” Is this all you have to say? Meanwhile, let me reply to your note by asking you a question regarding your position about religious scholars.
You follow Muhammad, correct? Was he a scholar? No; he was not. So why do you think so highly of scholars, seeing you are not following one?
However, you are following a false prophet, who is found to be false not because of a lack of scholarship, but because lacking a love of the truth, for which cause he was given over to demonic spirits telling such lies as the one you cite, that God has no Son. The one who says such a thing has not known or heard from God:
“Everyone denying the Son does not have the Father. The one confessing the Son also has the Father” (1 John 2:23 LITV).
In case you might say that the New Testament, from which I have just quoted, is unreliable (which it is not), the Son of God was foretold and spoken of in the Old Testament as well:
“Kiss the Son, lest He be angry, and you perish from the way, when His wrath is kindled in but a little time. Blessed are all who put their trust in Him” (Psalms 2:12 MKJV).
“Who has gone up to Heaven and has come down? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has bound the waters in His garments? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His name, and what is His Son’s name? Surely you know” (Proverbs 30:4 MKJV).
You say that “the top Christian scholar” states that the Sonship of Jesus Christ is a fabrication. Shall I believe the one conjecturing theories in the dark, or the One Who lives in the Light, Jesus Christ (He is alive), Who has made known His Presence not only to me, but in me, as well as in many others throughout the millennia? And was He a scholar in the days of His flesh? The Record of Christ says otherwise:
“And the Jews marveled, saying, How does this man know letters, not being taught?” (John 7:15 MKJV)
The same record is given of His apostles:
“Now when they observed the boldness of Peter and John, and understood that they were uneducated and untrained men, they marveled. And they recognized that they had been with Jesus” (Acts 4:13 EMTV).
The one apostle raised as a scholar was found to be vigorously persecuting the Lord Jesus and His people, before being turned to God by Christ. That apostle had this to say about his scholarship, after being turned from his evil:
“But no, rather, I also count all things to be loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them to be dung, so that I may win Christ” (Philippians 3:8 MKJV).
Why should anyone be so foolish as to follow you when your confidence is in the dung instead of in the Lord?
And who is this great scholar anyway? You do not name him. Are we supposed to take your word for it?
Let’s talk more about fabrications. Who are you to judge what is and what is not a fabrication? By what standard do you judge? Are you not being quite naïve, sycophantic and presumptuous because you merely take and repeat men’s words without sound reason or evidence? But we are not naïve or presumptuous, taking men’s words at face value; neither are we without substance. We are one with the Creator Himself and, by Him, we speak to you, and we can prove it. The only question is, “Are you capable of receiving it?”
As for your wishes for me, they have been granted. God Almighty has been guiding me, and He is presently speaking to you here, and in our paper, that you might be guided out of your evil. You are serving yourself, Hassan, in the evil of self-aggrandizement and glory-seeking. Your “good works” will not excuse or justify your wickedness. You need to repent, and for that you need the Son of God, Who is the Mediator and God’s Agent of reconciliation and forgiveness for mankind:
“Take note, all of you, and all the people of Israel, that in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, Whom you put to death on the cross, Whom God gave back from the dead, even through Him is this man now before you completely well. He is the stone which you builders had no use for, but which has been made the chief stone of the building. And in no other is there salvation: for there is no other Name under heaven, given among men, through which we may have salvation” (Acts 4:10-12 BBE).
I, too, am completely well, because knowing God, because in the Name of the Son of God He has been revealed to me and saved me.
“He who believes on the Son has everlasting life, and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides upon him” (John 3:36 MKJV).
Thanks for your e-mail Paul. I think we have made progress. To you is your way and to me is mine. We can agree to disagree.
What you quote are not the words of Jesus Christ (peace be upon him), be careful. 90% of the bible is not the words of Essa (Jesus). The Christian scholars who have exposed the truth regarding the fabrications in many of today’s bibles, denouncing the trinity (which was a pagan belief adopted by the Greeks and the Romans) and exposing the influence of Saint Paul- a bounty hunter and enemy of Jesus, are 30 Christian scholars of the highest eminence, backed up by 50 cooperating denominations of Christianity among many learned and prominent comparative religion scholars. The truth against what you claim is coming out everywhere whether you like it or hate it. I advise you to watch the link of the event on the Qur’an and the Bible in the Light of Science first to see how much the new testament was plagarized.
Furthermore, read what Allah (Jesus’s God) says in the Qur’an in regards to Mary, if you claim to speak the truth. There is an entire chapter on Mary. You read the link below and tell me if it’s false.
“When truth is presented against falsehood, falsehood perished, because by it’s nature falsehood is bound to perish.” Qur’an Al-Isra 17:81
Paul: St. Paul was not one of the disciples of Jesus (peace be upon him). He wrote 14 of the books and Jesus (pbuh) always prayed to God Almighty… he never said worship me or believe in the trinity, but to worship God and pray, and follow the ten commandments. Christianity today is based on St. Paul’s teachings, not what Jesus said and did… The trinity comes from pagan teaching like Roman and Greek gods and goddess, they were called saviors, light-bearers, their births taking place always around the 25th of the month, they were reborn again around easter time, born of virgins, these were pagan beliefs …like where the days of the week come from Roman gods- Monday (moonday), Sunday (the holy day of most pagans, the day they worshipped the sun, derived from nature worship), Friday (Firesday), etc… they believed in being born again and in trinities… St. Paul was a bounty hunter and not one of the disciples… he slandered Jesus and changed his teachings. God cannot have a son literally… Jesus never claimed to be God and always prayed to God and did not die on the cross, because he prayed to God to save him and God raised him alive. But it was made to appear so… that’s why the Sign of Jonah doesn’t make sense in the Bible, because he was not crucified. Even Christmas – the ever green tree, when they believed everything was dying… the sun was dying and they invented the ever green tree theory, that the sun god is in the tree and kept it alive, so they decorate it and put in homes, and put presents underneath… the christmas pudding, brandy over it, comes ablaze… connected to the pagan practices, that would bring back the sun… the days get longer, the sun returns to life, great festivity, “the savior” is born… etc. This is history… fact, not “his story”… that’s why you have Christmas trees today… it’s not the day Essa (Jesus) was born…. like Easter, from the the Goddess Ishtar. Jesus is the messiah, he was born of the Virgin Mary who was the best amongst women, he did speak from the cradle, and heal the blind, and will kill the anti-christ, but not as God, but as God’s word… and as one of God’s mightiest messengers!
Today it is Christology, Pagan mythology that the churches teach… not Christianity. People have re-written Jesus’s teachings for profit and say it’s from God. They will be punished. So believe in One God… say not trinity, it will be better for you. Give regular charity… encourage others to patience and perseverance… and spread truth.
We are not born in sin or responsible for what eve did… and Jesus did not die on the cross– that would be double jeopardy don’t you think? The prophets are brother and their message is one.
A messenger came every age, for every people, but for that people and that time- only. The messages were the same, of Islam, from the beginning of time. Jesus came for the Jews, not for all humanity. The last revelation is the Qur’an and it is prophesized in almost all major scriptures, even the Hindu scriptures. See link: (Watch Highlights! [link now defunct])
Muhammad (peace be upon him) who you reject is in the original texts of the bibles as “Ahmad”, so you can reject him, but you have falsely translated “Ahmad” as ”the comforter”. Moses (peace be upon him) prophesized Muhammad as so did the other prophets including Jesus.
Nobody can be crucified during the sabbath or sun down, or else the whole land was cursed. Jesus was dressed as a gardener in the upper room because he was hiding from the ones who were trying to crucify him.
There are endless contradictions in the bible you speak of. The original message of Jesus has been changed. Frankly I warn you, that what you are doing will have serious consequences.
You are full of doubt because Allah says in the Qur’an that the Christians and Jews are… and those that follow conjecture.
If I’m wrong, explain this:
Jesus is not speaking to you, that is the Jinn/shaitan/satan. Their goals are to mislead you to the hellfire.
Thanks for sharing and discussing. We can agree to disagree. It is not my job to convince you, only to deliver the message.
All the best you to you. No need to respond. Thank you for your time. No hard feelings.
Hassan, you thanked me for my letter. You are truly welcome to it. I am thankful to have substantive Truth to share with you, which is not ineffectual, though you do not believe and are not willing to listen or to reason with me. While you say there is no further need of response on my part, you have also asked me questions, for which I have answers, backed by Scriptures and godly, sound reason.
In addition to your questions, you have said some untrue and irresponsible things that cannot be substantiated or defended. I will expose these errors, and by all rights have an obligation to do so, not only for your sake, but, by the grace of God, for all others that might be inclined to believe such lies. This letter may reach many with the Truth.
I am also replying contrary to your assumption that I would “agree to disagree” in such matters of life and death. I do not agree to do as you presume I ought, at least not according to your motive, which is to avoid any substantive conversation. I have a well from which to draw water, and just because you do not have such a well does not obligate me to shut mine down and not bring forth life-giving sustenance and refreshment. Your proposal to “agree to disagree” is simply a convenient position by which you seek to allow your false foundation, on which you think to stand, to go unexamined and remain seemingly intact, when in truth it has already been demolished and rendered unusable by the many proven points we have made, and will make, exposing the ignorant lies you propose in defense of Islam and your man-made religion.
You have not answered anything, for example, from the many serious charges in the paper I sent you, The Answer to Islam, which points out the true antiChrist nature and intention of Muhammad to subjugate the world to his will, and to that of his followers. You promised, of your own volition, that you would have an answer, but instead all you have replied with are irresponsible, unproven charges about the Scriptures and what the Lord Jesus Christ said and taught. Rather than answer for the crimes against God and humanity perpetrated by Islam, according to its true stated intentions, you have sought to put the onus on us by denying the Lordship of Christ, thereby avoiding what we have to say on His behalf.
How could you, or anyone else, disprove the Truth that we have spoken? Furthermore, where did you ever get the idea that God would agree with you that you should be free to disagree with the Truth, Which He is? Who is free to ignore or disregard the Truth, except a fool, one who thinks to live in a fool’s paradise? Your ways make it clear that you know nothing of Him or His will. You speak the same thing as did the rebels to whom the prophet Jeremiah was sent:
“As for the word which you have said to us in the Name of the Lord, we will not give ear to you. But we will certainly do every word which has gone out of our mouths…” (Jeremiah 44:16-17 BBE).
Are the words of God in agreement with you, that you should be free to believe whatever you want, destroying yourself forever?:
“Tell them that as surely as I, the Sovereign LORD, am the living God, I do not enjoy seeing sinners die. I would rather see them stop sinning and live. Israel, stop the evil you are doing. Why do you want to die?” (Ezekiel 33:11 GNB)
God, Who laid down His life for you in the Person of Jesus Christ, owns you. You are not the one to be calling the shots with Him. He disagrees that you are free to disagree with Him. He is now making it known to you that what you call freedom to believe and disagree is a love of death, which you defend because you have chosen to believe lies and to practice whatever pleases you. You do not know Him or do His will. You are not a “Muslim,” that is, one living in submission to the true and living God. You have been taught a form of religion that is not acceptable with Him. He is after reality, which you can only enter by repentance through Christ. Jesus Christ did not lay down His life in vain, contrary to the lies that Muhammad and Islam have taught you. His will, not yours, is and shall be done:
“Your treaty with death will be wiped away. Your agreement with the grave will not stand. When the overwhelming disaster passes by, you will be trampled by it” (Isaiah 28:18 GW).
Now, onto some of the specific lies in your letter, which I have numbered and put into colored text:
1) Jesus did not say 90% of the words attributed to Him in the Bible.
On whose authority do you make this claim? I asked this in my last letter, but you still do not name names. Any anonymous speaker or group can say whatever they wish, but how do you prove what you assert? You have no evidence, let alone conclusive proof. Therefore, there is nothing to rebut here. It is an aimless, rootless conjecture, blown away by the first gust of wind.
2) The trinity is a pagan belief taught by true Christians.
This first part about the trinity is true; it is pagan. The second part is a lie, because the false doctrine of the trinity is not found in the Bible, or in the teachings of Paul and the other apostles of Christ. Those that know the Lord do not preach or worship three gods, but know and worship the one true God, Who came in the flesh as that unique manifestation known as the Son of God, prophesied and promised from the beginning of God’s revelation to mankind.
“Give ear, O Israel: the Lord our God is one Lord” (Deuteronomy 6:4 BBE).
There is only one Lord God. There is only one Name under Heaven whereby men must be saved, and that is Jesus Christ. “He that has seen Me has seen the Father…” (John 14:9).
3) Paul the apostle, whom you call “Saint,” corrupted the teachings of Jesus.
This is a huge lie. Paul manifested the life of Christ in his body, by word and deed. His doctrine is pure to the pure, but foul to the foul and wicked, even as the apostle Peter, who knew Christ in the flesh, testified:
“And be certain that the long waiting of the Lord is for salvation; even as our brother Paul has said in his letters to you, from the wisdom which was given to him; And as he said in all his letters, which had to do with these things; in which are some hard sayings, so that, like the rest of the holy Writings, they are twisted by those who are uncertain and without knowledge, to the destruction of their souls” (2 Peter 3:15-16 BBE).
If Paul was the scoundrel you make him out to be, Peter would not have recognized him as a brother or endorsed his ministry. The thief and liar is the one that denies the ministry of a servant of God, not the one falsely accused.
4) Denominations of “Christianity” and “comparative religious scholars” are authorities to be believed.
God hates “denominations” and “comparative religious scholarship.” They have nothing to do with Him. But you have everything to do with them because you trust in men, their wisdom and their works. But I have a question for you. If you believe these denominations and scholars, why are you not a Christian, since you use them as credible and authoritative sources of information? Do they not also preach Christ as the Savior of all men, as the One crucified for your sins?
Read The True Marks of a Cult.
5) The New Testament is a work of plagiarism.
Again, where is your proof? If I accuse you of murdering Ahmed, I would need to provide some kind of proof, such as a murder weapon, finger prints, eyewitnesses, and so forth. In your case here, do you realize that you are accusing God of being a liar without evidence? It is He that wrote the New Testament with the blood of His saints. You dismiss all that is good and holy, preferring your lies and “old wives’” tales. You suffer the fruits of your hardness and blasphemy.
6) The chapter of the Koran on Mary (19) is undeniably the truth.
There are many untruths in this chapter, whether directly stated or implied. The Koran is full of lies, superstitions, and devilish doctrines. I will show you several from this chapter:
#1 [19.9] He said: So shall it be, your Lord says: It is easy to Me, and indeed I created you before, when you were nothing.
[19.10] He said: My Lord! give me a sign. He said: Your sign is that you will not be able to speak to the people three nights while in sound health.
These words were supposed to be spoken to Zacharias, the father of John the Baptist. It is claimed here, in the Koran, that he was mute for only three nights after speaking to the angel in the temple. In truth and reality he was not able to speak for over 9 months, until after his son was born.
#2 [19.19] He said: I am only a messenger of your Lord: That I will give you a pure boy.
This account of the angel Gabriel speaking to Mary is wrong in that it was not Gabriel, but God Himself Who gave Mary a son, Jesus, by His Holy Spirit:
“Then Mary said to the angel, How can this be, since I do not know a man? And the angel answered and said to her, The Holy Spirit shall come upon you, and the power of the Most High shall overshadow you; therefore, also, that Holy Baby which is to be born shall be called the Son of God” (Luke 1:34-35 EMTV).
You, and the Koran, are in error about from Whom the Child came, because neither are willing to admit, or acknowledge, that Christ is the Son of God. This verse of the Koran is a diabolical lie from hell, because it denies its readers reconciliation with God and the forgiveness of sins through Christ, which comes by His blood that was shed for us. Is it no wonder that Islam is a religion in love with death?
#3 [19.24] Then (the child) called out to her from beneath her: Grieve not, surely your Lord has made a stream to flow beneath you;
[19.25] And shake towards you the trunk of the palmtree, it will drop on you fresh ripe dates:
[19.26] So eat and drink and refresh the eye. Then if you see any mortal, say: Surely I have vowed a fast to the Beneficent God, so I shall not speak to any man today.
This is sheer nonsense, silly, wicked lies. Jesus was a human being like any other. He did not speak as a newborn infant. God identified with humanity by becoming one of us. He did not cheat. So the real and only true Scriptures testify. Jesus did not start a religion to take over the tribes in His neighborhood, or to have other men’s wives. He came to lay down His life for our sakes by the will of God, not to live for Himself.
And whenever He did speak, He did not tell anyone to lie, as this ridiculous story has Him telling His mother to do.
#4 [19.28] O sister of Haroun! your father was not a bad man, nor, was your mother an unchaste woman.
This is another error. The author has the wrong Mary. Haroun’s (Aaron’s) sister was the sister of Moses, another person altogether from another era. There are other similar errors in the Koran, demonstrating the ignorance of whoever it was that wrote it regarding the Scriptures and true testimony of God.
#5 [19.33] And peace on me on the day I was born, and on the day I die, and on the day I am raised to life.
In another part of the Koran it denies that Jesus died on the cross, and claims that while God took Him up, Jesus had not yet been resurrected, contrary to the testimony of over 500 witnesses that saw Him after He was raised from the dead. I quote the portion in question:
[4.156] And for their unbelief and for their having uttered against Marium a grievous calumny.
[4.157] And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the apostle of Allah; and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so (like Isa) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure.
[4.158] Nay! Allah took him up to Himself; and Allah is Mighty, Wise.
[4.159] And there is not one of the followers of the Book but most certainly believes in this before his death, and on the day of resurrection he (Isa) shall be a witness against them.
We have a sure testimony of the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ, not only from others, but because we have also met with Him and we are now living in Him by His resurrection power.
#6 [19.35] It beseems not Allah that He should take to Himself a ! son, glory to be Him; when He has decreed a matter He only says to it “Be,” and it is.
Are we to take Muhammad’s word, or God’s Word for the truth? Muhammad says God has no son. God says to Moses, “Then tell Pharaoh, This is what the LORD says: Israel is my firstborn son” (Exodus 4:22 GW).
Jesus had an answer that also refutes the lie of Muhammad and the Koran:
“The Jews answered Him, saying, We do not stone you for a good work, but for blasphemy, and because you, being a man, make yourself God. Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your Law, I said, You are gods? If He called those gods with whom the Word of God was, and the Scripture cannot be broken, do you say of Him Whom the Father has sanctified and sent into the world, You blaspheme, because I said, I am the Son of God? If I do not do the works of My Father, do not believe Me. But if I do, though you do not believe Me, believe the works so that you may know and believe that the Father is in Me, and I in Him” (John 10:33-38 MKJV).
Satan is here to propagate the lie that there are no children of God. We are here to contend for the faith and to refute him. Here is what John the apostle, who was with Christ in the days of His flesh, and who saw Him after His resurrection, says:
“Who is a liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son. Everyone who denies the Son does not have the Father either” (1 John 2:22-23 EMTV).
#7 [19.54] And mention Ismail in the Book; surely he was truthful in (his) promise, and he was an apostle, a prophet.
[19.55] And he enjoined on his family prayer and almsgiving, and was one in whom his Lord was well pleased.
Ishmael was not a prophet. Of him, God said to Abraham:
“And as for Ishmael, I have heard you. Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly. He shall father twelve chiefs, and I will make him a great nation. But I will establish My covenant with Isaac, whom Sarah shall bear to you at this set time in the next year” (Genesis 17:20-21 MKJV).
The lineage of prophets came by Isaac, the child of the promise, and through Christ, the promised Seed of Abraham Who came by Isaac.
#8 [19.69] Then We will most certainly draw forth from every sect of them him who is most exorbitantly rebellious against the Beneficent God.
[19.70] Again We do certainly know best those who deserve most to be burned therein.
The Koran is full of threats of burning people in an eternal hell, which is a false invention of devils and devilish men, never a thought from the mind of God. Read The Good News and The Reconciliation of All Things.
#9 [19.88] And they say: The Beneficent God has taken (to Himself) a son.
[19.89] Certainly you have made an abominable assertion
[19.90] The heavens may almost be rent thereat, and the earth cleave asunder, and the mountains fall down in pieces,
[19.91] That they ascribe a son to the Beneficent God.
[19.92] And it is not worthy of the Beneficent God that He should take (to Himself) a son.
[19.93] There is no one in the heavens and the earth but will come to the Beneficent God as a servant.
There is One Who came from God in the form of a servant, as a man, yet was raised from the dead by His own power, and is known to men as the King of kings, the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God:
Hebrews 1:1-8 MKJV
(1) God, Who at many times and in many ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets,
(2) Has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, Whom He has appointed heir of all things, by Whom also He made the worlds,
(3) Who being the shining splendor of His glory, and the express image of His essence, and upholding all things by the word of His power, through Himself cleansing of our sins, He sat down on the right of the Majesty on high,
(4) Being made so much better than the angels, as He has by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
(5) For to which of the angels did He say at any time, “You are My Son, this day I have begotten You?” And again, “I will be to Him a Father, and He shall be to Me a Son?”
(6) And again, when He brings in the First-born into the world, He says, “And let all the angels of God worship Him.”
(7) And of the angels He says, “Who makes His angels spirits and His ministers a flame of fire.”
(8) But to the Son He says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever. A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.”
7) Jesus never said to worship Him.
This is another lie. Jesus said:
“Let not your heart be troubled. You believe in God, believe also in Me” (John 14:1 MKJV).
“And Jesus said to them, I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes on Me shall never thirst” (John 6:35 MKJV).
Who but God can promise to make such provision for all of mankind? In Whom else is eternal life to be found? Who else deserves to be worshipped?
“I am the Living Bread which came down from Heaven. If anyone eats of this Bread, he shall live forever. And truly the bread that I will give is My flesh, which I will give for the life of the world” (John 6:51 MKJV).
“That is why I said you will die with your sins unforgiven. If you don’t have faith in Me for Who I am, you will die, and your sins will not be forgiven” (John 8:24 CEV).
8) Jesus “did not die on the cross, because he prayed to God to save him and God raised him alive.”
Jesus did not pray that God would save Him from the cross, but only that if He were willing that He would do so:
“And He was withdrawn from them about a stone’s throw. And He kneeled down and prayed, saying, Father, if You are willing, remove this cup from Me. Yet not My will, but Yours be done” (Luke 22:41-42 MKJV).
To your shame and detriment, you ignore and dismiss this crucial element of the walk with God, “Yet not My will, but Yours be done.” Jesus prophesied more than once about what would happen to Him:
“For He taught His disciples and said to them, The Son of Man is delivered into the hands of men, and they shall kill Him. And after He is killed, He shall rise the third day” (Mark 9:31 MKJV).
Yes, He did rise, not by being translated, but by being raised from the dead, just as He promised; He also showed Himself afterwards, and by this power over death, He overcame death for all that believe on Him.
Regarding His death and resurrection, Abraham, our father in the faith, was given commandment to sacrifice Isaac, foreshadowing the coming of the Messiah Who would lay down His life for us, as Abraham also prophesied:
“And Abraham said, My son, God will provide Himself a lamb for a burnt offering. So they both went together” (Genesis 22:8 MKJV).
“Abraham named that place The LORD Will Provide. It is still said today, On the mountain of the LORD it will be provided” (Genesis 22:14 GW).
9) “The sign of Jonah doesn’t make sense in the Bible,” because Jesus was not crucified.
We have already shown that Jesus was crucified. Seeing that He gave the prophet Jonah as His sign, you throw out all the good promised in this sign, the very promises of God to mankind. Read about what you are missing: The SIGN: The Book of Jonah, the Book of God.
10) God, and God’s Word, are not One and the Same.
You say that Jesus will kill the antiChrist, “but not as God, but as God’s word… and as one of God’s mightiest messengers!” But God is His Word, and the Word is God:
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God” (John 1:1 KJV).
The apostle John had a vision of God:
“And I saw Heaven opened. And behold, a white horse! And He sitting on him was called Faithful and True. And in righteousness He judges and makes war. And His eyes were like a flame of fire, and on His head many crowns. And He had a name written, one that no one knew except Himself. And He had been clothed in a garment dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God” (Revelation 19:11-13 MKJV).
And will the Lord kill the antiChrist, as you say, or will He do something much higher and better?
“And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume by the Spirit of His mouth, and will bring to nought by the brightness of His presence” (2 Thessalonians 2:8 LITV).
That is what is happening here, as we speak the Word of God against the antiChrist spirit that comes forth from you and from Islam.
11) “We are not born in sin or responsible for what eve did.”
“Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me” (Psalms 51:5 MKJV).
Those are the words of King David, a man after God’s own heart. If a righteous man confesses himself a sinner from the womb, then what can be said of an unrighteous man? In fact, the righteousness of God conferred on a man is what makes him confess himself a sinner. That is evidence of the gift of faith from God, by which alone a man will know the difference between himself and God, his awful state of sin and unbelief and the grace of God that forgives his iniquity:
“Blessed is the person whom the LORD no longer accuses of sin and who has no deceitful thoughts” (Psalms 32:2 GW).
The wisest man in his day, or any other day (except for Christ), acknowledged that all men are sinners.
“When your people sin against you—and there is no one who does not sin…” (1 Kings 8:46 GNB).
Are not all men born equal in this regard? If all men eat, then all are born consumers. If all men sin, then all are born sinners. Escape this truth you cannot.
As for being responsible for the sins of our mothers and fathers, there comes a time when we are held responsible, not for theirs, but for our own. Jesus said:
“If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have had sin; but now they have no excuse for their sin” (John 15:22 MKJV).
12) “Jesus came for the Jews, not for all humanity.”
I do not know if there could be a much greater lie than this. God has testified against it by direct Word and in all that He has done for so many people through Jesus Christ. Starting with His Word:
“And now, says Jehovah Who formed Me from the womb to be His servant, to bring Jacob again to Him, Though Israel is not gathered, yet I shall be glorious in the eyes of Jehovah, and My God shall be My strength. And He said, It is but a little thing that You should be My servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to bring back the preserved ones of Israel; I will also give You for a light to the nations, to be My salvation to the end of the earth” (Isaiah 49:5-6 MKJV).
As for testimonies of those delivered from sins and all kinds of troubles that were too hard for them, all through the glorious Name of Jesus Christ, there are multitudes. Read this one, as one of those many from the nations other than Israel to whom Christ was sent, and see what God did for this man: Victor Hafichuk.
13) “The last revelation is the Qur’an and it is prophesized in almost all major scriptures…. Muhammad…is in the original texts of the bibles as ‘Ahmad’…falsely translated…as ‘the comforter’. Moses…prophesized Muhammad as so did the other prophets including Jesus.”
There is no false translation here. You are grossly ignorant of the Scriptures and it appears you do not care to verify anything you hear, or, worse yet, you simply have no conscience about knowingly telling lies. That is another fruit of Muhammad, as he taught that lying to “infidels,” to promote the cause of Islam, is acceptable.
Here is what Jesus said about the Comforter:
“But the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, Whom the Father will send in My Name, He shall teach you all things and shall remind you of all things that I said to you” (John 14:26 LITV).
Muhammad, obviously, is not the Holy Spirit, nor did he teach the things Christ taught.
Furthermore, the Comforter was promised to be with the apostles and with His followers always, which Muhammad was not, coming 700 years later, and dying a short while later.
As for Moses prophesying of Muhammad, if you are referring to Deuteronomy 18:18, as other Muslims have, it is clear there Muhammad could not possibly be the prophet of Whom Moses spoke, for several reasons. I quote the words of God through Moses to the Israelites:
“I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brothers, one like you, and will put My words in His mouth. And He shall speak to them all that I shall command Him” (Deuteronomy 18:18 MKJV).
One, Muhammad was not from among the brothers of Israel. Two, Muhammad was not at all like Moses, who did many signs and miracles, while Muhammad did none. Three, Muhammad allegedly heard from the angel Gabriel, and did not speak face to face with God, as did Moses. Four, Moses did not wage war against his own people and neither would any prophet of his people after him. Clearly Muhammad was not the Prophet of Whom Moses spoke.
However, if you place such faith in Moses’ and Jesus’ words, why then do you not believe all they say? Why lie, by picking and choosing what you want to believe, calling some true and much of it false? Are you not a hypocrite in so doing, you and your companions?
14) “Jesus was dressed as a gardener in the upper room because he was hiding from the ones who were trying to crucify him…There are endless contradictions in the bible you speak of.”
There was no gardener in the upper room, and Jesus did not hide from those seeking to crucify Him:
“Then Jesus, knowing all things that were coming upon Him, went out and said to them, Whom do you seek? They answered Him, Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus said to them, I AM! And Judas who betrayed Him also stood with them. Then as soon as He had said to them, I AM, they went backward and fell to the ground. Then He asked them again, Whom do you seek? And they said, Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus answered, I have told you that I AM. Therefore if you seek Me, let these go away” (John 18:4-8 MKJV).
You complain about the Bible, but how is that the Koran has so many absurdities and other lies that are so easily disproven?
Hassan, lies kill. You are in death and are a messenger of death, believing and speaking lies, things that have no foundation.
15) You say to us, “You are full of doubt because Allah says in the Qur’an that the Christians and Jews are… and those that follow conjecture.”
Even one without knowledge in these matters, upon observing this conversation, would have to say that you, and not we, are the one full of conjecture, if not doubt. You regurgitate the common objections of Muslims to the gospel of Christ, without any answer or defense of the many holes in your arguments, or to the errors and misrepresentations pointed out in The Answer to Islam. We have full confidence and assurance in Whom we believe.
Therefore, it is you, and not we, that must consider what happened to those nations that perished in their disobedience and striving against God. The serious consequences of which you warn us are, in truth, what you must consider for yourself. In your ignorance and presumption you blaspheme, calling the revelation of Christ in us the work of Satan. You are Satan’s dupe, reaping accordingly. In the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we rebuke you and your workers, Satan. Your day of holding the world captive with your lies is finished.
You say that Jesus was a true prophet and taught men to keep the Ten Commandments. Then why did Muhammad, if he was a true prophet, teach men to not keep them? He abrogated the Sabbath, declaring the sixth day the Sabbath instead of the seventh (which is by the decree of God, and cannot be changed). He also committed and condoned murder, adultery, theft, and lying, amongst other transgressions, such as idolatry (worshipping a black stone). The answer is: Because Muhammad was not a true prophet; he was a false one.
As for the many pagan rites, such as the winter solstice, which has been adopted as Christmas, and Easter from Ishtar, we reject all of them, as do all that know and worship Christ in spirit and in truth. You have no argument against the Lord Jesus Christ by using things He never sanctioned or taught men to do. He is not, and those with Him are not, part of the works of men. If you would responsibly read our site you would see that we contend with all false and presumptuous works that deny or defame the Lord Jesus Christ. This is our honor and privilege, as called by Him and given the grace to do so. Notice is being served to all that He has prevailed.
Which brings me to one of the only true things you presented:
“When truth is presented against falsehood, falsehood perished, because by its nature falsehood is bound to perish.” Qur’an Al-Isra 17:81
Who is perishing here? It is manifest for those with eyes to see who it is that is perishing. In due time all, including you, will know the truth, and will give glory to God.
“It is not my job to convince you, only to deliver the message.”
Is it your job to kill us if we do not receive your message, as you Muslims slaughter everywhere else in the world? Is it not manifest that you are liars and murderers, merciless butchers who wholly contradict themselves?
You also say, “Frankly I warn you, that what you are doing will have serious consequences.”
You warn us? We warn you, Hassan. Your warning is a veiled threat, an expression of your desired consequences to those who do not believe your lies. Our warning is not a lie, and therefore your consequences are sure if you continue in your lies. It is you who races to judgment and destruction, and not us. We have overcome and are seated on the throne with God. He has appointed us and granted us this high honor and privilege. You do not believe us. Furthermore, we are not threatening you, as you would do to us. As true servants of God in Christ Jesus, our Lord and God, we speak and leave judgment to Him, unlike your crowd that slaughters, raves, hates, rapes, robs, plunders, and says, “We have no sin!” How much darker and evil can you possibly be?
Honestly and substantially answer our many questions and explain specifically how we are wrong, not by repeating hearsay but with evidence and good reason. Show us that you have honestly and responsibly red what we have written you. You cannot do it, and that is why you repeat only what others have said. We, on the other hand, specifically answer your error, in detail, as we do with all.
How do you explain Ivan Panin’s mathematical and scientific proof of the Bible, a document we include here in response to your stated desire to debate the Bible and the Qur’an in “the Light of Modern Science”? Contrary to your spurious assertion that the Bible has been grossly tampered with, Panin proves that our present day Bible is a miracle that could only exist by the inspiration of God. Try debunking his treatise on the mathematics of the Bible, and show us that the Qur’an is similarly perfect. As has already been demonstrated, you will not, because you cannot.
INSPIRATION OF THE SCRIPTURES SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRATED
By Ivan Panin
For some months preceding Sunday, November 19th, 1899, the NEW YORK SUN had been devoting the better part of a page of its Sunday edition to the discussion of the truth of Christianity. On this date it printed a letter from one W.R.L., in which he denounced Christianity, using the old oft refuted ‘arguments,’ and challenged ‘some champion of orthodoxy to come into the arena of the SUN,’ and give its readers some ‘facts’ in defense of the Christian religion. The writer had not seen the NY SUN for years; but on his way from South Farmingham to Grafton, Massachusetts, a copy of the SUN of that date, left on a vacant seat in the train, fell into his hands.
The following letter met that challenge.
The letter was reprinted by the writer himself in a pamphlet of some fifty pages with the Greek text of Matthew 1:1-17 and the vocabularies thereto, enabling the scholarly reader to verify his statements for himself.
SIR:- In today’s SUN Mr. W.R.L. calls for a ‘champion of orthodoxy’ to ‘step into the arena of the SUN,’ and give him some facts:
1. The first 17 verses of the New Testament contain the genealogy of Christ. It consists of two main parts: Verses 1-11 cover the period from Abraham, the father of the chosen people, to the Captivity, when they ceased as an independent people. Verses 12-17 cover the period from the Captivity to the promised Deliverer, the Christ.
Let us examine the first part of this genealogy.
Its vocabulary has 49 words, or 7 x 7. This number is itself seven (Feature 1) sevens (Feature 2), and the sum of its factors is 2 sevens (Feature 3). Of these 49 words 28, or 4 sevens, begin with a vowel; and 21, or 3 sevens, begin with a consonant (Feature 4).
Again: These 49 words of the vocabulary have 266 letters, or 7 x 2 x 19; this number is itself 38 sevens (Feature 5), and the sum of its factors is 28, or 4 sevens (Feature 6), while the sum of its figures is 14, or 2 sevens (Feature 7). Of these 266 letters, moreover, 140, or 20 sevens, are vowels, and 126, or 18 sevens, are consonants (Feature 8).
That is to say: Just as the number of words in the vocabulary is a multiple of seven, so is the number of its letters a multiple of seven; just as the sum of its factors of the number of the words is a multiple of seven, so is the sum of the factors of the number of their letters a multiple of seven. And just as the number of words is divided between vowel words and consonant words by seven, so is their number of letters divided between vowels and consonants by sevens.
Again: Of these 49 words 35, or 5 sevens, occur more than once in the passage: and 14, or 2 sevens, occur but once (Feature 9); seven occur in more than one form, and 42, or 6 sevens, occur in only one form (Feature 10). And among the parts of speech the 49 words are thus divided: 42, or 6 sevens, are nouns, 7 are not nouns (Feature 11). Of the nouns, 35, or 5 sevens, are Proper names, seven are common nouns (Feature 12). Of the Proper names 28 are male ancestors of the Christ, and seven are not (Feature 13). Moreover, these 49 words are distributed alphabetically thus. Words under ‘alpha – epsilon’ are 21 in number, or 3 sevens; ‘stigma – iota’ 14, or 2 sevens; ‘lamda – upsilon’ also 14. No other groups of sevens stopping at the end of a letter are made by these 49 words, the groups of sevens stop with these letters and no others. But the letters, alpha, epsilon, stigma, iota, lambda, upsilon, are letters 1, 5, 6, 10, 12, 22 of the Greek alphabet, and the sum of these number (called their Place Values) is 56, or 8 sevens (Feature 14). This enumeration of the numeric phenomena of these 11 verses does not begin to be exhaustive, but enough has been shown to make it clear that this part of the genealogy is constructed on an elaborate design of sevens.
Let us now turn to the genealogy as a whole. I will not weary your readers with recounting all the numeric phenomena thereof: Pages alone would exhaust them. I will point out only one feature. The New Testament is written in Greek. The Greeks had no separate symbols for expressing numbers, corresponding to our Arabic figures, but used instead the letters of their alphabet: just as the Hebrews, in whose tongue the Old Testament is written, made use for the same purpose of theirs. Accordingly, the 24 Greek letters stand for the following numbers: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90, 100, 200, 300, 400, 500, 600, 700, 800, 900.
Every Greek word is thus a sum in arithmetic obtained by adding the numbers for which its letters stand, or their numeric values. Now the vocabulary to the entire genealogy has 72 words. If we write its numeric value over each of these 72 words and add them, we get for their sum 42,364, or 6,052 sevens, distributed into the following alphabetical groups only: alpha – beta have 9,821 or 1,403 sevens; gamma – delta, 1,904 or 272 sevens; epsilon – stigma, 3,703 or 529 sevens; theta – rho, 19,264 or 2,752 sevens; sigma – chi, 7,672 or 1,096 sevens. But the numeric value of the 10 letters used for making these groups is 931 or 7 x 7 x 19, a multiple not only of seven but of seven sevens.
Let Mr. W.R.L. try to write some 300 words intelligently like this genealogy, and reproduce some numeric phenomena of like designs. If he does it in 6 months, he will indeed be a wonder. Let us assume that Matthew accomplished this feat in one month.
2. The second part of this chapter, verses 18-25, relates the birth of the Christ. It consists of 161 words, or 23 sevens; occurring in 105 forms, or 15 sevens, with a vocabulary of 77 words or 11 sevens. Joseph is spoken to here by an angel. Accordingly, of the 77 words the angel uses 28 or 4 sevens; of the 105 forms he uses 35 or 5 sevens; the numeric value of the vocabulary is 52,605 or 7,515 sevens; of the forms, 65,429 or 9,347 sevens. This enumeration only begins as it were barely to scratch the surface of the numerics of this passage. But what is specially noteworthy here is the fact that the angel’s speech has also a scheme of sevens making it a kind of ring within a ring, a wheel within a wheel. If Mr. L. can write a similar passage of 161 words with the same scheme of sevens alone (though there are several others here) in some three years, he would have accomplished a still greater wonder. Let us assume that Matthew accomplished this feat in only 6 months.
3. The second chapter of Matthew tells of the childhood of the Christ. Its vocabulary has 161 words, or 23 sevens, with 896 letters, or 128 sevens, and 238 forms, or 34 sevens; the numeric value of the vocabulary is 123,529 or 17, 647 sevens; of the forms, 166,985 or 23, 885 sevens; and so on through pages of enumeration. This chapter has at least four logical divisions, and each division shows alone the same phenomena found in the chapter as a whole. Thus the first six verses have a vocabulary of 56 words, or 8 sevens, etc. There are some speeches here: Herod speaks, the Magi speak, the angel speaks. But so pronounced are numeric phenomena here, that though there are as it were numerous rings within rings, and wheels within wheels, each is perfect in itself through forming all the while only part of the rest.
If Mr. L. can write a chapter like this as naturally as Matthew writes, but containing in some 500 words so many intertwined yet harmonious numeric features, in say the rest of his days – whatever his age now, or the one to which he is to attain: if he thus accomplished it at all, it will indeed be marvel of marvels. Let us assume that Matthew accomplished this feat in only 3 years.
4. There is not, however, a single paragraph of the scores in Matthew that is not constructed in exactly the same manner. Only with each additional paragraph the difficulty of constructing it increases not in arithmetical, but in geometrical progression. For he contrives to write his paragraphs so as to develop constantly fixed numeric relations to what goes before and after. Thus in his last chapter he contrives to use just 7 words not used by him before. It would thus be easy to show that Mr. L. would require some centuries to write a book like Matthew’s. How long it took Matthew the writer does not know. But how he contrived to do it between the Crucifixion, AD 30 (and his Gospel could not have been written earlier), and the destruction of Jerusalem, AD 70 (and the Gospel could not have been written later), let Mr. L. and his like-minded explain.
Anyhow, Matthew did it, and we thus have a miracle – an unheard-or literary, mathematical artist, unequaled, hardly even conceivable. This is the first fact for Mr. L. to contemplate.
A second fact is yet more important: In his very first section, the genealogy discussed above, the words found nowhere else in the New Testament occur 42 times, 7 x 6; and have 126 letters, 7 x 6 x 3, each number a multiple not only of seven, but of 6 sevens, to name only two of the many numeric features of these words. But how did Matthew know, when designing this scheme for these words (whose sole characteristic is that they are found nowhere else in the New Testament) that they would not be found in the other 26 books? That they would not be used by the other 7 New Testament writers? Unless we assume the impossible hypothesis that he had an agreement with them to that effect, he must have had the rest of the New Testament before him when he wrote his book. The Gospel of Matthew, then, was written last.
5. It so happens, however, that the Gospel of Mark shows the very same phenomena. Thus the very passage called so triumphantly in today’s SUN a ‘forgery,’ the Last Twelve Verses of Mark, presents among some sixty features of sevens the following phenomena: It has 175 words, or 25 sevens, a vocabulary of 98 words, or 2 sevens of sevens, with 553 letters, or 79 sevens; 133 forms, or 19 sevens, and so on to the minutest detail. Mark then, is another miracle, another unparalleled literary genius. And in the same way in which it was shown that Matthew wrote last it is also shown that Mark, too, wrote last. Thus to take an example from this very passage: It has just one word found nowhere else in the New Testament, theta, alpha, nu, alpha, sigma, iota, upsilon, omicron, sigma, deadly. This fact is signaled by no less than seven features of sevens, thus: its numeric value is 581 or 83 sevens, with the sum of its figures 14, or 2 sevens, of which the letters 3, 5, 7, 9 from the beginning of the word have 490, or 7 x 7 x 5 x 2: a multiple of seven sevens, with the sum of its factors 21, or 3 sevens. In the vocabulary it is preceded by 42 words: 7 x 6; in the passage itself by 126 words, or 7 x 6 x 3, both numbers multiples not only of seven, but of 6 sevens. We have thus established before us this third fact for Mr. L. to contemplate: Matthew surely wrote after Mark, and Mark just as surely wrote after Matthew.
6. It happens, however, to be a fourth fact that Luke presents the same phenomena as Matthew and Mark, and so does John, and James, and Peter, and Jude, and Paul. And we have thus no longer two great unheard-of mathematical literati, but eight of them and each wrote after the other.
7. And not only this: As Luke and Peter wrote each 2 books, John 5, and Paul 14, it can in the same way be shown that each of the 27 New Testament books was written last. In fact, not a page of the over 500 in Westcott and Hort’s Greek edition (which the writer has used throughout) but it can be demonstrated thus to have been written last.
The phenomena are there and there is no human way of explaining them. Eight men cannot each write last, 27 books, some 500 pages, cannot each be written last. But let’s assume that one Mind directed the whole, and the problem is solved simply enough: by this Verbal Inspiration – of every jot and tittle of the New Testament.
There remains only to be added that by precisely the same kind of evidence the Hebrew Old Testament is proved to be equally inspired. This the very first verse of Genesis has seven words, 28 letters, or 4 sevens: to name only two out of the dozens of numeric features of this one verse of only seven words.
NEW YORK SUN, November 21, 1899 – CORRECTED
To this letter several replies appeared in the SUN, but not a single answer. For in only three ways can it be refuted.
1. By showing that the facts are not as here given.
2. By showing that it is possible for 8 men to write each after the other 7: for 27 books, or some 500 pages, to be each in turn written last.
3. By showing that even if the facts be true, the arithmetic faultless, and the collection of the numerics honest, it does not follow that mere men could have written this without Inspiration from above.
Of the nine noted rationalists, one was not ‘interested’ in the writer’s ‘arithmetical doings;’ two ‘regretted’ that they had ‘no time’ to give heed thereto; another ‘did not mean to be unkind, but…’; the rest were silent.
Thank you for your e-mail and for taking the time to try to counter my arguments. I am not trying to avoid substantive conversation, that’s why I gave you the links to some very good speakers who have stronger arguments and much more knowledge than me. At the end of my e-mail I will do my best to attach explanations which you can go through when you have time. I simply and honestly do not have the time to respond to all of your statements. Additionally, the quotes you are using to back-up your arguments are either fabrications or not unequivocal statements… that’s why I am not responding to them. You will find references to the claims I make in the previous video I sent you, the Qur’an and the Bible in the Light of Modern Science.
Listen Paul, it is not my responsibility to clarify your faith for you if your own Christian scholars CLEARLY disagree with what you say. It is your responsibility to revive your own faith. Here is a link to the #1 comparative religion scholar in the world at the moment, Dr. Zakir Naik:
Similarities Between Christianity and Islam:
History doesn’t lie, people lie… (“his story”), and if you don’t know about “Paul”, then you have been brainwashed in my opinion and especially because it’s the name you adopted. You seem like you’ve tried to do your homework, but your sources are at fault, maybe you don’t realize it. I have a degree in history as well as religion, so if you look up your facts from authentic sources about Paul, you will see for yourself. That’s why so many priests are converting to Islam, such as Joseph Estes and Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. Listen to a former Priest’s words here:
When Esa (Jesus) returns, and he breaks the cross, you will see. Everyone will unite in Islam… and he (pbuh) will pray with his head to the ground, as it says in the Bible he did–again, ”he fell on his face and prayed”, like Abraham (pbuh), and others. They pray like the Muslims. The prophets are brothers and there religion is one. Peace be upon them all. Muhammad is the seal of the prophets, pbuh, and last messenger with the last revelation which came to confirm the revelations before it including the original message of Jesus, as it was revealed, known in truth as the “Injeel”.
Listen Paul, I am only a student of a student of a student of a student…. who perhaps is a student of a scholar. Nadir, a friend of mine, debates many prominent Christians such as yourself, you may contact him for explanations or answers at: www.examinethetruth.com
Or you may debate Dr. Zakir Naik who has defeated every Christian Scholar out there so far… he has the scriptures memorized almost 100%.
Allah (“Ilah Ilah” as Jesus said himself) is sufficient for me. Even Jesus (pbuh), said ”shalom’ualaykum” (peace be upon you), as 1.4 billion Muslims say today.
I am not going to reason with you further because I can see that we both will not budge, and you have assumed many things about me and my faith which are far from the truth.
As far as the mathematical “miracles in the Bible”, I do believe that there are parts of the Bible that are from God. I believe that the “Bible” came for that people and that time. Your argument against this was weak and did not prove me wrong. Jesus said he came for the Jews himself! He said himself that he was a prophet! Look- it’s in your own Bible. He never said worship me directly.
You have tried to draw links between words and to put your own meanings and interpretations in regards to statements, some which are fabrications, others that aren’t, to make the “trinity” work for you, but truth stands out from falsehood. Even if the Bible stayed in-tact, it would still be for that people and that time. Today’s Bible, open any version you want to the book of Genesis, and see how it’s possible for the vegetation to come before the sun? It has been changed. Do you as a Christian, believe that if you give birth to a female you will be more impure than if you give birth to a male? It’s in your current Bible along with incest and so many other things I can’t even talk about.
Miracles in the Qur’an: see for yourself
I bear witness that there is no deity except Allah (Almighty God), and Muhammad, peace be upon him, is the Messenger of Allah… and I bear witness that Jesus Christ is one of the mightiest messengers of God, the Word and Spirit from God, to Mary, who was chaste.
All the best to you Paul… Take care. If you would like to argue further, please contact those mentions in the e-mail, for they can give you better explanations than me. Here’s my response to your e-mail and I have tried to organize everything for you. I hope it helps you understand my position. Thanks.
Hassan then posts these writings from Zakir Naik in the body of the e-mail:
Most Common Questions asked on concept of god in Christianity?
1. The Christians’ Concept of God is the Trinity i.e. the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost, but these three are one. We believe in one God who is a Triune God.
2. The concept of Trinity can be explained by giving the example that water can be present in three states, as solid i.e. ice, liquid i.e. water and gas i.e. vapour, yet it is one and the same water.
3. A person can also be a father, a brother and a businessman at the same time, but yet he is one and the same person. Then why cannot God be “one in three” i.e. God the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost?
4. Jesus indicated that he was God when he said, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
5. Is it not mentioned in the Bible that Jesus is the “Begotten Son” of God thus making him God?
6. Jesus clearly claimed Divinity when he said in the Gospel, “I and my Father are one.
7. It is mentioned in the Gospel of John that “In the Beginning was the Word and the Word was with God, and the Word was God” proving without doubt that Jesus is God?
8. Is it not mentioned in the Bible that Jesus is the “Begotten Son” of God thus making him God?
9. Jesus claimed Divinity when he said, “I am Alpha and Omega”.
10. Jesus himself said that he is God, when he said “Before Abraham was I AM”
11.Thomas called Jesus “My Lord and my god”
I include Zakir and Nadir in this correspondence. I have sent them a history of our previous letters, on which you were carbon copied to alert you to the fact that I was following your advice to involve them. I had also, in September of this year, sent Nadir The Answer to Islam, to which he has not replied.
Whether either of these men will try to answer anything remains to be seen, but thus far not one Muslim, including yourself, has even attempted to answer our many points against the spiritual errors, sins, and blasphemies of Islam. The only direct responses we have received thus far have been irresponsible charges, like yours, that are beside the point. Our words against Islam remain standing, and will continue to do so, because they are valid, the Truth from God.
You have once again bailed out of making any honest effort at answering us by trying to dismiss what we have said, calling it “either fabrications or not unequivocal statements.”
The dictionary defines “unequivocal” as follows: “admitting of no doubt or misunderstanding.” You tell us, specifically, where we have made statements that are fabrications or not unequivocal. It is, once again, your specious answers and objections that are fabricated and equivocal. You are found lacking any substance whatsoever. Having received degrees from university, you must know that your answers would never be accepted on an exam, how much less before God.
Where you do try to answer us, in addition to bringing up untrue and unproven extraneous points, you heap unqualified, random Islamic polemic materials on us, thinking we should somehow find legitimate rebuttals somewhere in these haystacks. If they truly exist there, why can you not point them out? You do not seem to comprehend that we have laid out clear and concise arguments, and it is up to you, or your mentors, to likewise clearly and precisely spell out how we are wrong, otherwise you are tacitly admitting you cannot do so. Stop being so lazy, and either answer what we have said, or, as you admit that you are not able to do so, specifically quote your sources appropriate to each point. If you cannot understand how to go about any of this, then just be honest with yourself and us, and admit it openly. We already know this to be case, so you are only damaging yourself by living this lie.
Your intransigence is not admirable, but is just plain stupid. Holding to one’s principles or position may be admirable or good, if one knows what one is doing. But if one cannot answer or defend oneself, it is stubbornness, which the Bible says is as witchcraft and idolatry. The larger problem and the underlying issue have been exposed here, which is that you are an idolater, a practitioner of superstition and religious rites that are meaningless to God. It is trusting in your own righteousness, which is a terrible stench in His nose.
We are, as we have told you (you do not try to verify or understand), contending for the faith of Christ with the many charlatans and phonies that have tried to usurp it, claiming it for themselves, contrary to godliness and the truth in Christ. They serve their own bellies, selfish lusts, and desires. Of such are the anonymous “scholars” you selfishly use as “experts” (having no use for them other than to serve your purposes), trying to destroy the faith of Christ. You willingly do not care to know or realize that it was such “experts” as these that crucified the Christ. They are His enemies, not those that know or love Him. You do not care about that, do you?
We have answered the many false doctrines, teachings, opinions, and more, of these pretenders. (See Diabolical Doctrines, The True Marks of a Cult, and The Issues of Life, for starters.) We have also identified them, in the particularly vile and offensive work of men known as the Catholic Church, as the mother that gave birth to the twice illegitimate Islam. Islam has been spawned by false Christianity, and serves as a rebuke of same. God, in His wisdom, has set these things in order to serve His higher purposes.
We are not here to revive Catholicism, or her many Protestant daughters, but to put her away, as we do with blasphemous Islam. It is for this purpose that the Lord Jesus Christ comes in His saints:
“Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men, saying, Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints, to execute judgment against all, and to convict all the ungodly among them about all their ungodly deeds which they have committed impiously, and about all the harsh words which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him. These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaks puffed up words, flattering people to gain advantage” (Jude 1:14-16 EMTV).
We are not impressed that false priests or Christians become Muslims, as though that proves Islam is true revelation from God. All we see is that these faithless professors have found a new venue and some notoriety for adopting another religious persuasion based on the Tree of Knowledge. They have fallen out of the frying pan and into the fire. So be it. The blind follow the blind, and both fall into the ditch. The wisdom of God and His divine retribution do not slumber, but surely He comes and is vindicated by His righteous judgment.
I did not, as you mistakenly presume, adopt the name of “Paul.” That is my given name. Regarding the apostle Paul, while history experts are not the source of my faith, there has not been one fact from the New Testament accounts of Acts and the Gospels that has been disproved. Rather, the archeological record, as it unfolds, continuously confirms the veracity of the Biblical record. I have the faith and revelation of Christ, by which I know Him (and Paul), which is fully backed by history. You have neither, but believe the lies of liars, which you do not even bother to specifically provide, so flimsy are they. You believe them because you are a liar.
While you do not answer our many points, I will still continue to answer yours, and those of your Islamic experts. When we are finished you will not have a leg to stand on, not a one of you. Not that you do now! You have already been cut down, and so it will be for your mentors, all of you reduced to the ground, from which position you will come to bow before God, as you now affect to do in great arrogance and presumption.
You say that Jesus fell on His face as do Muslims. I quote the Scripture:
“He went a little farther and fell on His face, and prayed, saying, O My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as You will” (Matthew 26:39 EMTV).
You have also said that Jesus asked God to save Him from the cross, and that God had done so, sparing Him the crucifixion. But what we see here is that Jesus “fell on His face” by committing Himself to the will of God, which had already been made known to Him, as He had previously reported:
“For He was teaching His disciples and said to them, The Son of Man is being betrayed into the hands of men, and they will kill Him. And after He is killed, He will rise on the third day” (Mark 9:31 EMTV).
You have consistently and blatantly denied the stated will of God, in the name of Islam and your false god, Allah, to enthrone the will of man, as you try to do here with Jesus, Who did not wish to be crucified, but submitted to the cross and the will of God nevertheless. You exalt the appearance of piety and devotion, but have not the reality of it, as all true believers in God do, because taking up the cross to follow the Lord Jesus Christ. That is “falling on the face” before God.
To spare corrupt and sinful flesh while making a great show of piety and religious submission is what Islam is all about. Falling on your faces before God is a sham, deceptive to those without eyes to see. You are not falling down before God, but before corrupt man. You are saying, in effect:
“Our will be done, not God’s, according to the teaching of a rebel and the devil that spoke to him. As for God, we do not receive His testimony of Himself or have anything to do with His Presence. We deny the Son of God, Jesus Christ, Who has risen from the dead and come in the flesh. We maintain that we are righteous in our own flesh and will not submit to His righteousness. We fear, hate, and loathe His holiness and righteous requirements, so we will substitute our own form of religion to justify doing whatever it is we please, just as did Muhammad.”
You say Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. So what? Cancerous cells are the fastest growing cells in a body that is diseased and dying. This world is dying, and Islam is part of the diseased, unhealthy condition that is killing it. You think that numbers make right. That is the thought of an evil and corrupt heart. You sent me the “Perished Nations” videos. Let me ask you, did numbers make right in the days of those nations that perished? What happened to the fastest growing religion in Noah’s day, or in Sodom during Lot’s day? So the same will happen to Islam, and is happening, even as we speak the Word of God that is powerful to do His will, just as He did in the days of Noah.
You say to me, “Listen Paul, I am only a student of a student of a student of a student…. who perhaps is a student of a scholar.”
That is your problem. You do not have a personal, direct relationship with your Creator. That is only possible through the Messiah, Jesus Christ. He is the Way to God, as He said. “No man comes to the Father, but by Me.” We, by His grace, choosing, and doing, have come to God by Christ, and that is the difference between us. We sit not only before the Master, but with Him, on His throne.
Do not think we are trying to get you to “become a Christian.” That is a great privilege, something only God can do, as He chooses. We are not trying to convince you to change religions. What we are doing is destroying your lies with Truth, and illuminating your darkness with Light. That is what we are sent to do.
You write, “Allah (‘Ilah Ilah’ as Jesus said himself) is sufficient for me. Even Jesus (pbuh), said ”shalom’ualaykum” (peace be upon you), as 1.4 billion Muslims say today.”
How do you know what Jesus said? You already told us that 90% of His recorded sayings in the Gospels are false. And of what you think to approve, do you understand what He was saying? No, you do not. That is because you do not know Him. What He said, where you claim He was calling on Allah, was, “My God, my God.” He was not calling God, “Allah.” It is obvious that you are calling on a different god, not only by name, but, in what is critical, by nature. Your god, Allah, denies the Son of God, and is petty, vindictive, tyrannical, carnal, and hateful. Jesus Christ, the Express Image of the only true God, is the very opposite. He came to lay down His life for sinners. Muhammad, a sinner, came to take the lives of others to support and feed his own sinful lifestyle and ambitions. You are, in serving Muhammad’s Allah, serving a tyrannical and fleshly sinner, namely yourself.
You write, with breathtaking audacity, “I believe that the ‘Bible’ came for that people and that time.” Jesus, Whom you think to acknowledge (but do not, making you a hypocrite), said that, while heaven and earth yet stand, not one jot or tittle of the Law (the Bible) will fall. Are they still standing, Hassan? If so, what does that say about the Bible?
Jesus referred to the recorded Word of God (the Bible) to verify and prove all things He said and did. Why don’t you or your scholars? Saying the Bible is passé is a convenient excuse to cover the fact that the Bible contradicts what you teach and believe and are.
You write: “Jesus said he came for the Jews himself! He said himself that he was a prophet! Look- it’s in your own Bible. He never said worship me directly.”
How is it you refer me to the Bible, which you declare is 90% fabrication? How convenient is your hypocrisy, manipulating according to your agenda! While I have already answered this, a few more pounds on the nail are necessary. Jesus said He was sent to the lost sheep of Israel. But when certain Greeks, those of another nation, came to see Jesus, He said this:
“Now is the judgment of this WORLD; now the ruler of this world shall be cast out. And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw ALL peoples to Myself.” This He said, signifying by what kind of death He was about to die….Then Jesus cried out and said, “He who believes in Me, believes not in Me but in Him Who sent Me. And he who sees Me sees Him Who sent Me. I have come as a light into the world, so that WHOEVER believes in Me may not abide in darkness. And if anyone hears My words and does not believe, I do not judge him; for I did not come that I might judge the world, but that I might save the WORLD” (John 12:31-47 EMTV).
This universal role of the Messiah, Jesus, which He proclaims here, was also prophesied by Isaiah:
“Behold, My Servant Whom I have chosen, My Beloved in Whom My soul is well pleased! I will put My Spirit upon Him, and He will announce justice to the Gentiles. He will not quarrel nor cry out, nor will anyone hear His voice in the streets. A bruised reed He shall not break, and a smoldering wick He shall not quench, till He bring forth justice to victory; And in His name the nations shall hope” (Matthew 12:18-21 EMTV).
Did Jesus say He was only a prophet? No, He said He was not only that, but much more. You can be a liar while saying something true, yet leaving out the remainder and vital substance of the Truth. Whoever has ears to hear, do not close them; hear the rest.
Jesus said a prophet is not without honor, except in his own country. He was referring to the way His own people did not receive Him. However, He also said this about John the Baptist:
“But as these were going, Jesus began to say to the crowds about John, What did you go out into the wilderness to behold? A reed being shaken with the wind? But what did you go out to see? A man being clothed in soft garments? Behold, those wearing soft things are in the houses of kings. But what did you go out to see? A prophet? Yes, I say to you, and one more excellent than a prophet. For this is the one about whom it has been written: ‘Behold, I send out My messenger before Your face, who shall prepare Your way before You.’ Truly I say to you, There has not arisen among those born of a woman any greater than John the Baptist. But the least in the Kingdom of Heaven is greater than he is” (Matthew 11:7-11 LITV).
If John was the greatest of prophets, and “more excellent than a prophet,” because preparing the way of the Messenger of God, Whom he publicly acknowledged to be Jesus the Christ, what does that make the Christ? If John was more than a prophet, yet the least in the Kingdom of God is greater than he, what does that say about the King of the Kingdom, of Whom John said that he was not worthy to untie His shoe? Is He only a prophet?
Furthermore, we have another witness of the Holy Spirit that these things are so, as Zacharias, John’s father, prophesied of the coming of the Lord, which his son would herald:
“And you, child [John], will be called the prophet of the Highest; for you will go before the face of the Lord to prepare His ways, to give knowledge of salvation to His people by the remission of their sins, through the tender mercy of our God, with which the Dayspring from on high has visited us; to give light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace” (Luke 1:76-79 EMTV).
I am not finished. Jesus also said of Himself:
“Yet I say to you that One greater than the temple is here” (Matthew 12:6 EMTV).
Of what man or prophet has that been said?
When the Jews asked Him if he was greater than Abraham (who was a prophet – Genesis 20:7), He answered them:
“Your father Abraham rejoiced that he was to see the time of My coming; he saw it and was glad. They said to him, ‘You are not even fifty years old—and you have seen Abraham?’ ‘I am telling you the truth,’ Jesus replied. ‘Before Abraham was born, I AM’“ (John 8:56-58 GNB).
Did any true prophet of God, even the greatest one, make similar claims? No. Did Jesus back up His claims? Yes, He raised Himself from the dead, and appeared to many, and not only appeared, but empowered them to live as He does, by the power of His resurrection and a sinless life. That is what Paul the apostle experienced after his conversion. You do not defame man, but the work of God. That is why we answer, and put away, your foolishness.
Another example of such foolishness is this statement:
“You have tried to draw links between words and to put your own meanings and interpretations in regards to statements, some which are fabrications, others that aren’t, to make the “trinity” work for you, but truth stands out from falsehood.”
As usual there is nothing substantive in your criticisms. You come to conclusions without divulging or revealing any evidence to support your conclusions. Everyone is to simply take your word for it. That is both arrogant and ignorant, my friend. Why not admit you do not know what you are talking about? We will not condemn you for that. But you condemn yourself by insisting that the Light shining on you is darkness. For this you are judged and held accountable.
We are not trying to make the “trinity work” for us. When we say that Jesus Christ is God, we are not talking about more than one God, but God appearing in more than one form. Who can tell Him that He cannot do this? Can you, or Muhammad? Then you are both liars, foolishly so, because the evidence against your error is documented and well known. God did appear in human form to Abraham, Jacob, and Joshua, amongst others.
You finally give a concrete example of where you claim the Bible has been changed, borrowing, I believe, from your teachers. Good. We answer all of you. You write:
“Today’s Bible, open any version you want to the book of Genesis, and see how it’s possible for the vegetation to come before the sun? It has been changed.”
Vegetation did not come before there was light, which God commanded on the first day, and it was there to sustain vegetation, which came on the third. This is made plain as day in every Bible:
“And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God, looking on the light, saw that it was good: and God made a division between the light and the dark, naming the light, Day, and the dark, Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day” (Genesis 1:3-5 BBE).
What causes the division between night and day, and gives light, if not the sun? Will you now also ignore and deny this fact, too? In this your stance is aptly symbolized. The Light of Day stands before you and you insist it does not exist. And if it were not the sun, but God Himself that provided the light, is He not the Sustainer of all life?
“The city had no need of the sun nor of the moon to shine, for the very glory of God illuminated it, and its lamp is the Lamb” (Revelation 21:23 EMTV).
In darkness, you brashly mock what you do not understand. You write:
“Do you as a Christian, believe that if you give birth to a female you will be more impure than if you give birth to a male?”
I can firstly say that, as a Christian or not, I never expect to give birth to male or female. But to answer your charge, to say “more impure” is not accurate. The Law of Moses states that a woman will be unclean longer after the birth of a girl, twice the time as after the birth of a boy. There is medical evidence, going back to the time of Hippocrates, that the period of cleansing in the body of the mother after the birth of a girl is longer than after a boy. There is no stigma attached to the girl or the mother for this fact or for the requirement of God for additional separation. His Law is for good, not evil, as foul and perverse minds suspect. The Bible is not like the Koran, where a man is given leave to beat his wife if he merely suspects she has not been obedient or faithful.
“The Law of the Lord is good, giving new life to the soul: the witness of the Lord is certain, giving wisdom to the foolish” (Psalms 19:7 BBE).
You declare, as if acceptable to God, “…and I bear witness that Jesus Christ is one of the mightiest messengers of God, the Word and Spirit from God, to Mary, who was chaste.”
Jesus rebuked those in His day that made such appeals, and through us He rebukes you in same manner:
“You’re hopeless, you religion scholars and Pharisees! Frauds! You build granite tombs for your prophets and marble monuments for your saints. And you say that if you had lived in the days of your ancestors, no blood would have been on your hands. You protest too much! You’re cut from the same cloth as those murderers, and daily add to the death count. Snakes! Reptilian sneaks! Do you think you can worm your way out of this? Never have to pay the piper?” (Matthew 23:29-33 MSG).
I will now move on to answer some of your copied materials. As you have bailed out, Hassan, we expect no better from your scholars that have supplied these materials. They are simply puffed up with more hot air, which we have already pricked with the Sword of Truth, the Word of God, in this and the other letters and writings sent to them.
In the enclosed document, Zakir Naik writes of Jesus:
“We believe that he gave life to the dead with God’s permission.”
Who can give life besides God? But Christ, the Son of God, gives life to whom He wills, and is honored as God, because He is God:
“For as the Father raises up the dead and gives life, thus also the Son gives life to whom He wills. For the Father judges no one, but He has given all judgment to the Son, so that all may honor the Son even as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father Who sent Him” (John 5:21-23 EMTV).
The following sayings of Christ are listed by Zakir as evidence that Jesus never claimed divinity. I will, once again, show how this is error.
““My Father is greater than I.” [The Bible, John 14:28]”
How stupid your adherence to false doctrines has made you! How blind are those mad with envy! If God is Christ’s Father, as He claims, then how can Christ be anything other than divine in nature?
I will expound further for the sake of those whose ears may be opened to Truth, that they may be wise to such foolishness. God the Father, Who is a Spirit, is greater than flesh, which is weak and limited. While Jesus was in the flesh He was constrained (Luke 12:50), but after He was raised from the dead, He returned in Spirit, with all the power of God:
“Jesus answered him, ‘Those who love Me will obey My teaching. My Father will love them, and My Father and I will come to them and live with them. Those who do not love Me do not obey My teaching. And the teaching you have heard is not Mine, but comes from the Father, Who sent Me. I have told you this while I am still with you. The Helper, the Holy Spirit, Whom the Father will send in My Name, will teach you everything and make you remember all that I have told you” (John 14:23-26 GNB).
This is how those who receive the Son of God become born again, of the divine nature, and are made able to fulfill the holy Law of God by the very power of God in Christ Jesus:
“For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death” (Romans 8:2 BBE).
This is the power that Christ spoke of to His disciples, when they worshipped Him after His resurrection:
“When they saw Him, they worshipped Him; but some doubted. And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, All authority in Heaven and on earth has been given to Me” (Matthew 28:17-18 EMTV).
““My Father is greater than all.” [The Bible, John 10:29]”
This is the mystery of God appearing in the flesh, in the form of a man and a servant:
“And confessedly, great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen by angels, proclaimed among the Gentiles, believed on in the world, and was received up in glory” (1 Timothy 3:16 EMTV).
Once again the stupidity of proudly presenting this Scripture as negation of the divinity of Christ is exposed in the very next words of Christ:
“I and the Father are one” (John 10:30 EMTV).
Obviously it is not human intelligence that keeps the author from acknowledging his error. It is pride and spiritual blindness. More Scriptures supplied as alleged evidence that Christ is not divine:
““…I cast out devils by the Spirit of God….” [The Bible, Mathew 12:28]”
““…I with the finger of God cast out devils….” [The Bible, Luke 11:20]”
I stand further astounded, Zakir, as you lob soft, fat pitches, while acting as you are throwing unhittable fast balls. Is my finger part of my body, or not? Is it another substance altogether, or is it the same? So then is Christ of the Same Substance as God, seeing how He acts as His finger.
““I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.” [The Bible, John 5:30]”
If Jesus was doing only the will of God, then it was God Who was manifest in Him. It is divinity in full expression, without taint or flaw, come to man in a seeable, knowable form. As the Son of man, Jesus was teaching that man cannot trust in himself, in the flesh, which is what the ungoverned nature of man is called in the Bible. Even the Son of God did not trust in His flesh, but because He trusted in God alone He did not sin, and did only the will of the Father in Heaven:
“For we do not have a High Priest Who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but having been tempted in all respects in quite the same way as we are, yet without sin” (Hebrews 4:15 EMTV).
Zakir and your fellow Muslim scholars, you are ever leaning on your carnal, lawless, self-serving understanding. The Christian, living by the faith of Christ, leans on God, as one dependent on His revelation and will, and by His grace submits to it. Granted, there are far fewer true Christians than the world supposes, and you suppose the few true, like us, to be among the many false.
Jesus also said the following (at the same time He said that as the Son of man He could do nothing of Himself), to those that used the Scriptures in a self-serving manner, as you do (except those religious, at least, believed and affirmed the Scriptures are true, as Jesus points out here, contrary to the lie and total hypocrisy of Muslims trying to use them as authoritative while at the same time saying they are altogether corrupted and untrustworthy):
“You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life. And they are the ones witnessing of Me, and you will not come to Me that you might have life” (John 5:39-40 MKJV).
The entire Bible is witnessing of Christ! It is about nothing other than Him, because life is only possible through Him, not the Bible or religion! You people are missing the one crucial, necessary Element, while, at the same time, you are tripping all over Him in your mad rush to deny Him. Jesus Christ is the Answer, not your intellectual understanding, or lack of it, which you use to deny His status as the ever present and living Mediator between God and man. You cannot come to God any other way. Muhammad is dead and in his grave. We are here, in the Name, power, and authority of the living, resurrected Lord Jesus Christ, making Him known to you and to the world, that you might be saved.
In order to deny Christ, Islam seeks to diminish and redefine His role and position. Your writing says:
“Jesus (pbuh) never claimed divinity for himself. He clearly announced the nature of his mission. Jesus (pbuh) was sent by God to confirm the previous Judaic law.”
I have already dealt with the first point in my last letter, and here as well. Our denunciation of this vile and pernicious lie stands. Jesus called Himself the Son of God. If that is not claiming divinity, then neither does being the son of Akmal make you an Akmal, nor do apples make apple pie. Furthermore, I will add this: Satan, do you remember tempting Christ those several times in the wilderness, saying, “If You be the Son of God, do this or do that to prove it”? You knew then, and you know now, that He is the Son of God, and are only there to disprove it in the eyes of wicked men, such as these Muslims, whom you have in league with you so that you might retain your rulership of this world. We rebuke you Satan, and expose you and your lies in front of all the world. The Lord is owner thereof, He has paid for it; it is His, and it is to be restored to Him as rightful Owner. He, Jesus Christ, rebukes you.
To those who write and disseminate these lies:
Was the Lord’s mission to confirm Judaic law, as you claim? What did the Lord say His mission was, and is?
“But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy and not sacrifice.’ For I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance” (Matthew 9:13 EMTV).
“I am the Door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and go out, and will find pasture. The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly” (John 10:9-10 EMTV).
“For the Son of Man has not come to destroy men’s lives, but to save” (Luke 9:56 MKJV).
How very much unlike you Muslims, who hypocritically pretend to give Him a little sliver of honor, while slaughtering mankind all over the world, throughout your history from its inception, in the name of your god, your founder, your religion and your pack of lies!
“Pilate therefore said to Him, Are You a king then? Jesus answered, You say rightly that I am a king. For this reason I have been born, and for this reason I have come into the world, that I should testify to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice” (John 18:37 EMTV).
“Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to abolish, but to FULFILL” (Matthew 5:17 EMTV).
The Lord, by His own words, came to testify of the truth. In order that they may receive this truth, He was sent to call sinners to repentance. The result of heeding the call to repentance and the hearing of the truth, of which He testified, is salvation – life, abundant life. That is what God’s stated purpose was for sending Jesus Christ. Jesus corrected those who mistakenly thought that He was sent to abolish the Law or Prophets, saying He was not doing that, but was rather sent to fulfill them. That is not at all the same as confirming “the previous Judaic law,” as you put it.
Firstly, it was not the “previous” Law, because, as the Scriptures you go on to quote show (Matthew 19:16-17), not one jot or tittle of this Law shall pass. Whoever teaches otherwise is least in the Kingdom of Heaven. Seeing that the Kingdom of Heaven is imperishable, does this Law sound like “previous” to you, as in “no longer applicable”? One would think you were trying to be funny in a sick way, or were making fun of those to whom you try to pass off such blatant contradictions as these, boldly quoting the proof of your error to those you seek to mock. But I see you speaking earnestly, confounded in your wisdom, which is utter foolishness before God and those that have had their eyes opened to see the Truth.
Secondly, it was not the “Judaic” Law, at least not in the sense you use that term. I ask, are the Ten Commandments only for the Jews? Are the weightier matters of the Law, judgment, mercy, and faith, ones that pertain only to the Jews? Is loving the Lord your God with all your mind, heart, and soul, and loving your neighbor as yourself, only for the Jews? On these things, Jesus said, the whole Law hinges. Yes, no doubt Muhammad would teach you that the Law was only previous, and for the Jews, because contrary to the Law, he hated and killed Jews. He had them murdered, the women raped, their belongings stolen, and has taught his followers to this day to do the same, wherever and whenever possible. The Muslims expect the Jews and Christians to keep the Law towards them, but they do not require it of themselves towards others. This is how the man of sin behaves, whose religion is designed to allow and justify his wanton behavior. You demonstrate your great need of repentance and the blood of the Lamb of God to cleanse you from your sins.
Thirdly, confirming the Law is not nearly the same as fulfilling it, which is what Jesus said He came to do. To “confirm” means:
- To support or establish the certainty or validity of; verify.
- To make firmer; strengthen: Working on the campaign confirmed her intention to go into politics.
- To make valid or binding by a formal or legal act; ratify.
- To administer the religious rite of confirmation to.
The Law was already established at Mount Sinai, verified by God at Horeb. There God confirmed His covenant with Israel. But the children of Israel did not keep His Law or covenant. That is because no flesh can keep His Law. That is why Jesus Christ came, to fulfill the Law in His people, so that we would walk according to His righteousness, being empowered to do what is right in the sight of God, because made acceptable in Christ the Beloved. That is God’s desired end, not only for us, but for all of humanity. The word “fulfill,” therefore, means:
- To bring into actuality; effect: fulfilled their promises.
- To carry out (an order, for example).
- To measure up to; satisfy. See synonyms at perform, satisfy.
- To bring to an end; complete.
Many prophets and men of God have confirmed the Law as valid, but only Jesus Christ has fulfilled the Law in the lives of them that believe, writing it on their hearts:
“For the law was given through Moses; grace and the true way of life are ours through Jesus Christ” (John 1:17 BBE).
This was promised by God through the prophet Ezekiel, among others, as something He would do for us:
“And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you. And I will remove the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them a heart of flesh, so that they may walk in My statutes and keep My ordinances, and do them. And they shall be My people, and I will be their God” (Ezekiel 11:19-20 MKJV).
Zakir’s paper continues: “The Bible mentions the prophetic nature of Jesus (pbuh) mission in the following verses… ‘And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou has sent.’ [The Bible, John 17:3]”
Yes, this is true. How then do you think to know so much when you do not believe in Jesus Christ, and do not have eternal life in you? Why do you argue with us who love you and tell you the truth, because we have His life and know the only true God through Christ?
“He that believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his belly will flow rivers of living water” (John 7:38 EMTV).
Why do you refuse the living water?
Once again the following lie is brought up:
“Jesus Refuted even the Remotest Suggestion of his Divinity.”
Hitler said that if you repeat the same lie long enough, people will believe you. Unless they know differently, having strong conviction of the Truth, and a willingness to pay the price of their conviction, indeed they will. That is the reason Truth must be spoken, even though the lies are so outrageous and blatantly untrue, as is this one. The reasoning given by Zakir here, using the Scriptures, is as follows:
“Consider the following incident mentioned in the Bible:
“And behold, one came and said unto him, ‘Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?’
And he said unto him, ‘Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.’ “ [The Bible, Mathew 19:16-17]
Jesus (pbuh) did not say that to have the eternal life of paradise, man should believe in him as Almighty God or worship him as God, or believe that Jesus (pbuh) would die for his sins. On the contrary he said that the path to salvation was through keeping the commandments. It is indeed striking to note the difference between the words of Jesus Christ (pbuh) and the Christian.”
The difference is not between the words of Christ and those that believe Him, but between what Zakir hears, corrupted by believing the lies of the Koran, and the truth of Christ’s testimony. The author, Zakir, along with Hassan and all like-minded Muslims, is not able or willing to hear or comprehend what Jesus actually said. Contrary to the conclusion that salvation comes by keeping the recorded commandments, Jesus said that something else was needful to enter into eternal life:
“You know the commandments: Do not commit adultery, Do not commit murder, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Do not defraud, Honor your father and your mother. And he [the man] answered and said to Him, Teacher, all these I have observed from my youth. Then Jesus, looking at him, loved him, and said to him, One thing you lack: Go, sell all that you have, and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in Heaven; and come, take up the cross, and follow Me” (Mark 10:19-21 EMTV).
Without obedience to the personal commandment of God – which comes through Christ, the Mediator between God and men, and requires death to self, one cannot enter into eternal life, the Kingdom of God. And without entering eternal life, one cannot truly keep the commandments of God in perfect holiness, as is required by the Law. If we do not love Him in one point, we do not love Him truly at all.
Notice, too, that Jesus said, “Follow Me.” There is no salvation without following Him. He declared:
“I am the Door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and go out, and will find pasture” (John 10:9 EMTV).
Who else but God can save and give men eternal life?
Here is another proof that Jesus did in fact say that to believe in Him is the same as believing in Almighty God. Zakir is too indoctrinated with the lies of Islam, because not having a love of truth, to see or admit it:
“But Jesus cried out and said, He who believes on Me does not believe on Me but on Him Who sent Me. And he who sees Me sees Him Who sent Me” (John 12:44-45 MKJV).
“ If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you do know Him, and have seen Him. And Philip said to Him, Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us. Jesus said to him, Am I so long a time with you, and you have not known Me, Philip? The one seeing Me has seen the Father! And how do you say, Show us the Father?” (John 14:7-9 LITV).
At this point, the Muslim apologists might conveniently say that these quotes are fabrications, not in the original Bible. They provide no proof or evidence of such tampering, however, because there is none that is credible. Indeed, anyone familiar with the facts, which are readily available to those interested in ascertaining the truth, knows that the Bible is by far the most well-documented of ancient books, showing remarkable consistency in its contents from multiple sources and samples, and is considered authentic by those in possession of the facts, without dispute, whether they believe the spiritual nature of the text or not. The authenticity of the Bible is indisputable, except amongst liars.
Besides all this, the hypocritical and ineffectual dismissal of Christ’s words by these Muslim “scholars,” where the words do not suit them, does nothing to dismiss the testimony of the Law and Prophets about His divine nature and ministry as the Messiah, the Savior of mankind, Whom God requires all men to honor and worship as God. We have addressed this before, but since liars can and will continually repeat their lies, how much more should the truth be re-told and re-heard?
“Say to those of a hasty heart, Be strong! Do not fear! Behold, your God will come with vengeance; with the full dealing of God, He will come and save you. Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf opened” (Isaiah 35:4-5 LITV).
The record shows that Jesus opened the eyes of the blind and the ears of the deaf. He has also done this for us, which is how we can report these truths, our eyes seeing Him and His glory. But those that love their sins, who deny Him as Lord and Savior, remain blind and deaf.
Other proofs of God’s coming in the flesh:
“The LORD Almighty answers, I will send My messenger to prepare the way FOR ME. Then the Lord you are looking for will suddenly come to His Temple. The Messenger you long to see will come and proclaim My covenant” (Malachi 3:1 GNB).
“My heart is overflowing with a good matter. I am speaking of my works to the King; my tongue is the pen of a rapid writer. You are the fairest OF THE SONS OF MAN; grace has poured into Your lips; on this account God has blessed You forever. Gird Your sword on Your thigh, Mighty One; with Your glory and Your majesty. And ride prosperously in Your majesty, on the matter of truth and meekness and right, and Your right hand shall teach You fearful things. Your arrows are sharp in the heart of the King’s enemies; peoples fall under You. Your throne, O GOD, is forever and ever; the scepter of YOUR kingdom is a scepter of uprightness. YOU love righteousness and hate wickedness; on account of this God, Your God, has anointed You with the oil of gladness more than Your fellows” (Psalms 45:1-7 LITV).
“A psalm by David. The LORD said to MY LORD [this said by a King of Israel and prophet] Sit in the highest position in Heaven until I make Your enemies Your footstool.” The LORD will extend Your powerful scepter from Zion. Rule Your enemies who surround You. Your people will volunteer when You call up Your army. Your young people will come to You in holy splendor like dew in the early morning” (Psalms 110:1-3 GW).
“And He saw that there was no man, and was surprised that there was no one to take up their cause: so HIS ARM gave salvation, and He made righteousness His support. Yes, He put on righteousness as a breastplate, and salvation as a head-dress; and He put on punishment as clothing, and wrath as a robe. He will give them the right reward of their doings, wrath to His attackers, punishment to His haters, and even on the sea-lands He will send punishment. So they will see the Name of the Lord from the west, and His glory from the east: for He will come like a rushing stream, forced on by a wind of the Lord. And AS A SAVIOUR HE WILL COME to Zion, turning away sin from Jacob, says the Lord” (Isaiah 59:16-20 BBE).
“I will declare the decree of Jehovah. He has said to Me, YOU ARE MY SON; today I have begotten You” (Psalms 2:7 MKJV).
Zakir states: “It is striking that the basic teachings of the Church such as Trinity and vicarious atonement find no mention in the Bible.”
How many times shall we knock down this straw man argument? The true Church of God and the Bible, the record of God, do not teach the “Trinity.” We know only one God, not three. This abominable word is nowhere to be found in any Bible, and that is because the Bible is not saying Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit are also gods, making it three with God the Father. The Bible is saying they are all one and the same God. The Name in which we are baptized is called the Name (singular) of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. There is only one Name, and it is the Lord Jesus Christ, “Who being the shining splendor of His glory, and the express image of His essence, and upholding all things by the Word of His power, having made purification of our sins through Himself, He sat down on the right of the Majesty on high” (Hebrews 1:3 LITV).
Jesus Christ is God:
“For a Child is born; to us a Son is given; and the government is on His shoulder; and His name is called Wonderful, Counselor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. There is no end to the increase of His government and of peace on the throne of David, and on His kingdom, to order it, and to sustain it with justice and with righteousness, from now and forever. The zeal of Jehovah of Hosts will do this” (Isaiah 9:6-7 LITV).
As for not finding any mention of vicarious atonement in the Bible, you might as well also tell us you find no water in the ocean! The Bible is a comprehensive record of the vicarious atonement that was performed on our behalves by the Son of God! To begin with, Abraham was tried in the commandment to sacrifice his son, Isaac. By his obedience, Abraham became the father of all who would come to believe in God. By faith, Abraham demonstrated what God would do for us – offer up His Son, in order to redeem all that are under sin.
Abraham was given to foreshadow what the Father in Heaven would do through Messiah, about Whom Abraham had also prophesied, saying that God Himself would provide the sacrifice, and that it would be seen in the very same mount where he had taken Isaac to offer him up (which is where Christ was crucified, Mount Moriah).
Now let me ask you, whoever reads this, something eminently reasonable. Can you honestly say that you did anything to deserve having such a blessing poured out on you on account of the obedience of another? Is this something you could do for yourself? Would your physical death on the cross cleanse you of your sins and reconcile you to God? Can you, by offering your body to God, be deemed acceptable to Him? We can tell you, without question, that such is not the case. If it were the case, who then could be saved, and who has been saved? Who has laid down his or her life, without sin, for the sake of humanity? But if this is not the way things are, as we say, then all are the beneficiaries of a vicarious atonement, to be revealed in God’s time for each person in his or her own order, through Jesus Christ:
“That’s what Christ did definitively: suffered because of others’ sins, the Righteous One for the unrighteous ones. He went through it all–was put to death and then made alive–to bring us to God” (1 Peter 3:18 MSG).
“And I will pour on the house of David, and on those living in Jerusalem, the Spirit of grace and of prayers. And they shall look on Me [God] Whom they have pierced; and they shall mourn for Him [Jesus Christ], as one mourns for an only son, and they shall be bitter over Him, like the bitterness over the first-born” (Zechariah 12:10 LITV).
About 500 years after God made His covenant with Abraham, He gave the Law through His servant Moses. In the Law many sacrifices were commanded, by which it was amply demonstrated that without the shedding of blood there could be no remission of sins. God made clear that you could not atone for your sins without the blood of another. Sacrifices for all had to be made, whether for the sins of the people, or of the priests consecrated to God:
“Let him come to the priest with a sheep, a male without any mark out of the flock, of the value fixed by you, as an offering for his error; and the priest will take away the sin which he did in error, and he will have forgiveness” (Leviticus 5:18 BBE)
“And Aaron [the high priest] shall bring near the bull of the sin offering which is his own, and shall make atonement for himself, and for his house” (Leviticus 16:6 LITV).
All these things point to the atonement of Christ, Who put away sin once and for all, for those that look to, and endure with, Him, by which He also made animal sacrifices obsolete:
“Who has believed our message? To Whom has the LORD’S power been revealed? He grew up in His presence like a young tree, like a root out of dry ground. He had no form or majesty that would make us look at Him. He had nothing in His appearance that would make us desire Him. He was despised and rejected by people. He was a man of sorrows, familiar with suffering. He was despised like one from whom people turn their faces, and we didn’t consider Him to be worth anything. He certainly has taken upon Himself our suffering and carried our sorrows, but we thought that God had wounded Him, beat Him, and punished Him. He was wounded for our rebellious acts. He was crushed for our sins. He was punished so that we could have peace, and we received healing from His wounds. We have all strayed like sheep. Each one of us has turned to go his own way, and the LORD has laid all our sins on Him. He was abused and punished, but He didn’t open His mouth. He was led like a lamb to the slaughter. He was like a sheep that is silent when its wool is cut off. He didn’t open His mouth. He was arrested, taken away, and judged. Who would have thought that He would be removed from the world? He was killed because of My people’s rebellion. He was placed in a tomb with the wicked. He was put there with the rich when He died, although he had done nothing violent and had never spoken a lie. Yet, it was the LORD’S will to crush Him with suffering. When the LORD has made His life a sacrifice for our wrongdoings, He will see His descendants for many days. The will of the LORD will succeed through Him. He will see and be satisfied because of His suffering. My righteous Servant will acquit many people because of what He has learned through suffering. He will carry their sins as a burden. So I will give Him a share among the mighty, and He will divide the prize with the strong, because He poured out His life in death and He was counted with sinners. He carried the sins of many. He intercedes for those who are rebellious” (Isaiah 53:1-12 GW).
That was spoken 700 years before Christ. Along with the many other Scriptures that prophesied of His coming and work, some of which I have quoted here, we have presented an irrefutable case for His divine mission and the miraculous nature of the inspired Record of God, which has foretold that mission, weaving together a tapestry of narratives, incidents, genealogies, acts, visions and prophecies from many authors over thousands of years, in perfect agreement and support of this one single, coherent, consistent message. And all that these Muslim scholars can present as the case from Scriptures for Muhammad being the final messenger of God are vapid and tortured inferences, such as, for example, this one from Isaiah:
“And they give it to one without learning, saying, Make clear to us what is in the book: and he says, I have no knowledge of writing” (Isaiah 29:12 BBE).
Scholar’s conclusion: This must be talking about Muhammad because he could not read. (I am not kidding or making this up.)
Another, from the Song of Songs:
“His mouth is most sweet, and He is altogether lovely. This is my Beloved, and this is my Friend, O daughters of Jerusalem” (Song of Solomon 5:16 LITV).
Muslim scholar’s analysis: The Hebrew word for “lovely” sounds slightly like Muhammad in Arabic, so it must be speaking of a particular Muhammad from Medina. My notation: This is the one who so sweetly inspires his followers, by his word, to murder the children of Jerusalem!
The other Scripture mentioned here, which speaks of the prophet that God would raise up, who was to be like Moses, I have already answered elsewhere, but I will add this: The scholar says that Muhammad was received as a prophet in his lifetime. That is not true, because, by the author’s own criteria, it did not happen to Muhammad with those to whom the prophet of God was to be sent, the Jews. The Jews did not receive Muhammad as a prophet. For this cause Muhammad turned on them, and persecuted and killed them.
Jesus, on the other hand, did not react in kind when He was rejected. He did not persecute, as did Muhammad. He was persecuted, but He did not fight back. Instead He laid down His life for those who sought to take it, according to the will of God. From the cross He said, “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.” By this act He became the Savior of all men, and all are required to hear and obey Him, as the prophecy of Moses foretold.
Furthermore, the comparison of this Prophet to Moses does not say that the people would receive Him, but that they would be required to listen to Him. Did not Jesus prophesy that the temple would be removed, and Jerusalem surrounded by armies, because they did not recognize the day of their visitation? God does not punish for what is not required, but for what is. Again, these scholars err, not knowing the Scriptures or the power of God.
Zakir’s argument, continuing along a main theme of criticism, which insists that Christians believe, and the Bible teaches, there is more than one God, quotes from Isaiah:
““I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour.” [The Bible, Isaiah 43:11] “ I am Lord, and there is none else, there is no God besides me.” [The Bible, Isaiah 45:5] “ I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me.” [The Bible, Isaiah 46:9]”
The Lord Who speaking these words is Jesus Christ, the Savior, Who was from before Abraham. He is God. Amen. Blessed be His Name forever!
Why does the Lord affirm these things through the prophet Isaiah? Isn’t it clear to everyone that He is God? No, it is not. It is not clear to you, Hassan, is it? Neither is it clear to any man, without revelation by the grace of God. Jesus said, “No man can come unto Me, unless the Father draws him.” You, as with all unbelievers, have not known the Lord, or that He is God. But He is. He has proven it. He raised His own body from death, after three days in the grave, just as He said He would. Muhammad did not do this. He is still in the grave. But Jesus Christ has risen, and has shown Himself to many witnesses, including us, whom He has also raised up from spiritual death and hell by the power of His endless life.
Zakir presents more spurious claims about Muhammad being prophesied of in the Bible, now working from the New Testament. Some I have already answered, such as the ridiculous notion that the Comforter promised by Christ, the Holy Spirit, was Muhammad. Zakir proposes that it could not be the Spirit of God (even though Jesus said that is Who He was talking about), with the following explanation:
“Some Christians say that the Comforter mentioned in these prophecies refers to the Holy Sprit. They fail to realise that the prophecy clearly says that only if Jesus (pbuh) departs will the Comforter come. The Bible states that the Holy Spirit was already present on earth before and during the time of Jesus (pbuh), in the womb of Elizabeth, and again when Jesus (pbuh) was being baptised, etc. Hence this prophecy refers to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).”
There is no contradiction in saying that the Holy Spirit would come, yet was already there. In the expanded text of His promise of the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, given to those who believe and obey, the words of Jesus show how these are not in the least mutually exclusive events:
“And I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another Comforter, that He may abide with you for ever; even the Spirit of Truth; Whom the world cannot receive, because it sees Him not, neither knows Him: but you know Him;  for He dwells with you,  and shall be in you. I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you” (John 14:16-18 KJV).
The Spirit of Truth was already present, which eliminates Muhammad as a candidate for same. Later, after Jesus was raised from the dead and glorified, the Spirit came to dwell IN the disciples at Pentecost. This is what Jesus was talking about when He said He would not leave them bereaved, but that, “I [not Muhammad] will come to you.” John explains this when reporting about the living waters Jesus promised would be, not were, flowing out of those believing on Him:
“Now on the last day, the great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, If anyone thirsts, let him come to Me and drink. He that believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his belly will flow rivers of living water. (But this He spoke concerning the Spirit, Whom those believing in Him were about to receive; for the Holy Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified)” (John 7:39 EMTV).
Saying that Muhammad fulfills the prophecy of the coming of the Holy Spirit is doing exactly what scholarly Muslims and Imams like Zakir condemn true Christians for doing, which is to declare that Jesus Christ fulfills that role. It is Christ Who is the Holy Spirit, Who is God (there is only one God).
So, either Jesus or Muhammad is the Final Prophet, for only one can be, and the Scriptures, without a doubt, as we have shown, from beginning to end, declare that the final Prophet is Jesus Christ. He openly declares it Himself, saying:
“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the Ending, says the Lord, the One Who is, and Who was, and Who is coming, the Almighty” (Revelation 1:8 LITV).
He did not say Muhammad is coming, but that He has come, and is coming. All others who presume to supplant Him, taking His place, are false prophets.
Zakir quotes from the Koran to try to confirm what he falsely projects to be in the Bible:
“Al-Qur’an Chapter 61 Verse 6:
“And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said, ‘O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me and giving glad tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed.’ But when he came to them with clear signs, they said, ‘This is evident sorcery!’””
Jesus is not known in the Scriptures, which are reality, as the son of Mary. He is known as the Son of God. Calling Him the son of Mary is to deny His true Nature and purpose, which is His coming as the Son of God to redeem mankind from sin. These words in the Koran that are purported to be Christ’s are the words which a devil tried to put in His mouth. It is the thief who comes to steal, kill and destroy.
Neither did Jesus ever speak of “Ahmed,” or Muhammad, by name, except that He warned about the false prophets and thieves that would use His Name to steal, kill, and destroy, as has Muhammad.
And what “clear signs” has Muhammad given? The only clear signs coming from Muhammad are those of a false prophet that denies the Son of God:
“He that believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself; he that does not believe God has made Him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony which God has testified concerning His Son. And this is the testimony: that God has given to us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. He that has the Son has life; he that does not have the Son of God does not have life” (1 John 5:10-12 EMTV).
In the “Similarities Between Islam and Christianity” writing, which has mostly been addressed here, there are a few outstanding statements that require comment. First, let me reiterate that when we speak of Christianity we are not speaking of a religion, but the manifestation of the Spirit of Christ in the lives of those that believe on Him. Zakir, the author of this article, along with many Muslim religious writers who look to poke holes in “Christianity,” mainly address the false religions of men that use the Name of Christ to approach God, and not the true teachings of Scriptures, as we have shown in our letters and writings regarding these matters.
The false Christian religions and Islam truly have much in common, as both seek to use the Name of Christ as justification for what they do, and both adhere to human designed religious observances and doctrines that are initiated, propagated, and complied with by the power of corrupt human flesh, and not by the faith of Christ. For any that have any questions about this, see The True Marks of a Cult.
A case in point of what I am saying here is the following statement by Zakir regarding Islam and Christianity:
“Islam is the only non-Christian faith that believes in Jesus (pbuh).”
Islam does not “believe in Jesus.” Calling Him a “prophet to the Jews” is not believing in Him. It is disbelieving in Him. True belief, as is spoken of in Scripture, is an utter dependence on, and commitment to, Jesus Christ, His Lordship and almighty power to raise the dead to life. That is what “believing in Jesus” means. Obviously, Muslims do not believe in Jesus Christ. But neither do most that call themselves part of the “Christian faith.”
The author mistakenly identifies “Christian faith” with organizations and creeds. True Christian faith is the faith of Christ, which is the unseen power of God operating in those given the grace to believe on Him, seeing Him Who is invisible, and walking with Him outside of the religious works of men. Those in the faith of Christ do not walk according to the spirit or ways of this world. They are new creations altogether. Neither is there such a thing as “non-Christian faith” that can be rightfully called the faith of God. The faith of God comes only through Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the Carrier of the Invisible God to man, and in man.
Zakir has not seen this faith before, though if memorizing the Bible, as Hassan claims, he would have at least red about it with Jesus and His disciples. We are part of that same Body, having the same faith, and that is how we can successfully dispute these things, giving precise, Scripturally appropriate answers that put away assertions without the knowledge of God, which knowledge we have through Christ.
Another statement that demonstrates the falsity of Islam is:
“Celibacy or Monasticism is prohibited in Islam.”
God does not prohibit celibacy. Jesus was celibate. Some are born to be celibate, and others choose to be. Paul advised, by the Spirit of God, that being celibate, for believers, was better than being married. To proclaim, in the Name of God, prohibitions contrary to the instruction and example of God, is presumption, if not blasphemy. Certainly this is another mark of a false prophet. God commands us not to fear (pay heed to) such that presume to be His prophets and are not (Deuteronomy 18:22). One ought not for a moment to honor Muhammad, because, contrary to Muhammad’s claim, God has not sent him to speak on His behalf.
Another statement by Zakir:
“If Christian is a person who follows the teachings of Christ (pbuh) and not one who worships Christ (pbuh). (We are more Christian than the Christians themselves).”
A Christian, contrary to the Muslim notion of one, is one who worships Christ:
“When they saw Him, they worshipped Him; but some doubted. And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me” (Matthew 28:17-18 EMTV).
Jesus strengthened their faith so that they would not doubt about His position or power, but would worship Him as the One with all authority in Heaven and on earth. Therefore, a Christian is one who follows the teachings and personal commandments of Christ, because worshipping Him as God.
“Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in My Name, teaching them to observe everything that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age” (Matthew 28:19-20).
What Zakir is calling the teachings of Christ is a works-oriented affectation of “Christ-likeness,” or godliness, which is similar to what many professing Christians also have in their own power, according to the commandments of men through will power and conviction. That is not the same thing as following the commandments and teachings of Christ by faith. Just as Jesus rebuked the Pharisees, who thought to be following God, so do His words apply here:
“And He said, Well did Isaiah say of you, you false ones: These people give Me honor with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. But their worship is to no purpose, while they give as their teaching the rules of men” (Mark 7:6-7 BBE).
I will also note here that the Muslims teach that Christ will come back at the end of the age, as some “Christians” also teach, but Jesus said that He is with us, those who believe, always, even to the end of the age. We know this to be true because He is not only with, but also in us, here and now.
And the final statement of Zakir in “Similarities Between Islam and Christianity” by which he seeks to prove that Jesus is a Muslim:
“Muslim is a person who submits his will to Allah.
Jesus (pbuh) said, “not my will but thy will be done.” i.e. Muslim.
Jesus also said this:
“He that has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me shall be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will manifest Myself to him” (John 14:21 EMTV).
The question is not whether Jesus was a Muslim (which according to the definition of being one submitted to God, He was the only Perfect Person to have ever walked the earth without sin) but whether those who call themselves Muslims are Christians, keeping Christ’s commandments and being loved by God. Clearly they are not, preferring the commandments of corrupt man, with all false doctrines. Those who call themselves by the name “Muslim” are yet in their sins. Repent, Muslim; believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you and your house shall be saved.
Therefore, it is not the Muslims that are true Christians, but the true Christians that are Muslims, fulfilling the meaning of submission (“the acceptance of power from (A)another, accompanied by increasing understanding” – Delphi Glossary). Jesus Christ is that Other, the Mediator between God and man, making reconciliation and godliness possible for all those that call on Him:
“And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the Name of the Lord shall be saved” (Acts 2:21 KJV).
The writing, “Ten Most Common Questions Against Islam by Christian Missionaries,” is best answered by our writings, The Answer to Islam, Islam: Neither Good nor Godly, and The Muslim Scourge. Instead of chasing after side issues and the inane questions of false priests and pastors (if not imaginary ones, no one is quoted here), we address the substantive errors and misrepresentations of Islam and the Koran, along with posing serious questions to Muslims that consider themselves peace-loving, the answers to which are a matter of life and death.
Regarding the rebuttal against the last charge that Satan wrote the Koran, I will comment. Zakir replies to this charge, in part, as follows:
“If satan would have written the Qur’an, he would not have mentioned in the same Qur’an in Surah Nahl, chapter 16 verse no. 98
‘When thou does read The Qur’an, seek Allah’s protection from Satan the Rejected One.’
Is this how you feel satan would write a book? Does he tell you; ‘Before you read my book ask God to save you from me?’”
Would Satan, a liar from the beginning, admit to authorship of a misleading book, like the Koran? Of course he would not! As arch deceiver he comes as a messenger of God for evil, telling lies to sift and try the sons of men. He certainly would warn readers that they should not to be dissuaded by “Satan,” meaning the adversary or contrary spirit coming against his teachings and ways, and that they should not believe such “lies.” Of course he would take this position! Satan, it is written in Scripture, transforms himself into an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14). He presents himself as good, the one warning against evil. He is the one who talked Eve into eating from the Tree of Knowledge, having the eyes opened to know good and evil!
The author of this writing knows nothing about Satan, because he knows nothing about God, or himself. All liars are deceived, firstly about their own nature, then, accordingly, about all other things, spreading their false world view to support and justify themselves in their corruption.
More of Zakir’s faulty intelligence about the enemy of mankind:
“Satan is intelligent, no wonder that he can put this idea into the minds of people that he himself wrote the Qur’an.”
Satan is intelligent, which is exactly why he does not put into the minds of men the idea that he wrote the Koran. Instead, he does the opposite. He puts into the minds of the unbelieving that God wrote it, so that they would follow him as though he were God! And if people do not believe the Koran to be divinely inspired, Satan will gladly settle for them not knowing or caring that he is responsible for it. Darkness still reigns, with confusion and destruction to follow all the same. But no longer must this, or will this, be so. I rejoice in the Scripture supplied by Zakir, which points to the hope of better things to come:
“The Bible mentions in the Gospel of Mark, chapter 3, verses 24-26
‘ And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.’
‘ And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.’
‘ And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end.’”
The point is well made. Satan does not intentionally come against himself. It is not darkness that puts away darkness; it is the Light that does:
“No one can enter a strong man’s house and plunder his possessions, unless he first binds the strong man, and then he may plunder his house” (Mark 3:27 EMTV).
Praise God, He has given us the victory and the Light to shine on darkness! The kingdom of religious darkness in all its contradictory and confused manifestations is now finished. By the living Word of God, we proclaim the day of the Lord, a day of liberty to those held captive by the devil. Satan, your day is finished. Jesus Christ rules over all things, all is His, and we are here to claim all for Him. In His Name and power we have pulled down the false pillars of Islam, along with every other false and wicked way. The trump has sounded, and the victory is His! Praise the Lord!
In the glorious Name of the Lord Jesus Christ,
Abdullah proposes that true Islam is peaceable, and that lies are weak things that truth easily overcomes. We show by various Scriptural arguments that these things are not so, and that many in this world have been overcome by religious lies.
Jeffry Camm uses the Koran as an authoritative source of truth to preach Jesus Christ to Muslims. We expose his faulty reasoning and arguments, and also show the disastrous results of convincing a Muslim to seriously follow the Koran, which would lead him to resemble Muhammad, the criminal, rather than Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
While the West has been self-absorbed watching the Super Bowl and the Olympics, monster trucks and American Idol, and while hypocritically singing the praises of God in day-time nightclubs called churches and on TV, the Muslim scourge has slipped in the door, with a vengeance and ruthlessness not anticipated, catching people unawares of their hour of visitation and judgment.