Paul received this response to UPDATED Islam Section:
What I read is pure Islam bashing to make Christianity look better. There is no need to do that, all religions are beautiful.
As beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, religion is in the heart of the believer. It is faith, it is belief.
Instead of spending time finding faults with other faiths, if the group focuses on talking what is good about their faith, then they have made progress.
You say we are bashing Islam to make Christianity look better. Do you always use inflammatory rhetoric when you cannot refute what someone says about Islam? The dictionary says bashing means: “To engage in harsh, accusatory, threatening criticism.”
We are not accusing or threatening. Nor is our criticism harsh. What is harsh is that which we expose – the truth about Islam. We expose it based on the words of the Koran, and the well-documented fruits of Islam confirm that our judgment is just. If anything is “harsh, accusatory, and threatening,” it is the words of Muhammad recorded in the Koran, amply demonstrated in the actions of those who follow his teachings and dictates.
If your religion was founded on truth, and you had any godliness as a result of following it, you would certainly have no problem answering the many things we have written that say otherwise. How can the truth of God possibly be bashed? It stands immovable, “unbashable.” You cannot answer what we have written because your “truth” is corrupt, unstable, and indefensible. To anyone whose eyes are opened to see, your answer here is a cop-out, a non-answer, which does not give credence to your words.
So, yes, you and your co-religionists do have faith in your hearts – the black, cruel, unbelieving, heartless faith of murderous Islam. This is the faith of suicide bombers who shout, “Allah is great,” while blowing themselves up, along with as many people as they can possibly kill or maim, both enemies and friends (and they do not know, or care enough to know, which is which). What is so great about your god, that his followers are reduced to living lives so miserable that self-destruction is the ticket to “paradise”? If your god is so great, why are his worshippers so frustrated and enraged that the only thing they can think of is leaving this life, or sending their children on missions to destroy themselves, while destroying others in the process? Why are you ever the victims of others? Cannot your god protect and keep you in perfect peace, as the God of the Bible promises and does for His followers, here on earth?
What is so great about your god that those who claim to be peace-loving are complicit with murderers, or are too afraid to stand up against the diabolical insanity, having good reason to fear for their lives?
And if death is so wonderful, why do not more Muslims stand up to the homicidal fanatics of Islam, who break the Ten Commandments God gave to Moses? I will tell you why: Islam teaches its adherents to die for their hatred, their anger, their frustration, their pride and hope of carnal rewards, but they are not taught to die for the Truth. Jesus Christ is the Truth.
To one such as yourself, who does not even acknowledge the existence of the vile barbarity of Islam, I hardly know what to say. Your motives are certainly suspect. If you are a true Muslim, then you must be in favor of the intolerance and world domination agenda of Islam. You are lying to others when you deny that such exists, and try to pass off Islam as the model of toleration and peace. How can you ultimately tolerate what you are told to subdue in the name of Allah? Have you been lying to yourself about what it is that you believe in? Whether knowingly or not, your words and approach serve to lure non-Muslims into complacency, or to keep them there, giving Islam the time to wait for, and take advantage of, the opportunity to gain ascendancy over the rest of the world and subject all to its thug-god.
And you say, “All religion is beautiful”! What a lie! Apparently you do not even believe your own book, the Koran, which condemns following any religion other than Islam. (Or once again, you expect us to believe that you do not believe it.) It is written in the Koran:
[3.85] And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers.
[9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.
[2.120] And the Jews will not be pleased with you, nor the Christians until you follow their religion. Say: Surely Allah’s guidance, that is the (true) guidance. And if you follow their desires after the knowledge that has come to you, you shall have no guardian from Allah, nor any helper.
The true God does not consider any of men’s religions, which justify and glorify man, to be beautiful. Jesus said to the religious of His day:
“You are those who justify yourselves in the sight of men, but God knows your hearts. For that which is exalted among men is an abomination in the sight of God” (Luke 16:15 HNV).
He is talking to you, Mike, about Islam. You follow Muhammad, a man that glorified himself rather than God:
“So who is lying here? It’s the person who denies that Jesus is the Divine Christ, that’s who. This is what makes an antiChrist: denying the Father, denying the Son. No one who denies the Son has any part with the Father, but affirming the Son is an embrace of the Father as well” (1 John 2:22-23 MSG).
How is it beautiful when people follow either the Bible or the Koran, both claiming to represent the way of Truth, and irreconcilable difference exists between the two? Either Muhammad or Jesus Christ is a liar. I know which one, because God has shown me and revealed Himself to me in Christ. Has He shown you anything? No, He has not. You have an inherited, social and intellectual faith.
The irreconcilable difference between Muhammad and Christ is not “beautiful”; it is horrid, deadly confusion for those that cannot see. It is only “beautiful” to those whose eyes are not single for the Truth, who dwell in death already.
The God of Abraham, as recorded in the Bible, instructed the children of Israel to completely obliterate all the “beautiful” religions in the land that He was giving them for their inheritance. Here is His verdict on that which you tell us we should highly value:
“Do not bow down to their gods or worship them, and do not adopt their religious practices. Destroy their gods and break down their sacred stone pillars…. Do not make any agreement with them or with their gods. Do not let those people live in your country; if you do, they will make you sin against Me. If you worship their gods, it will be a fatal trap for you” (Exodus 23:24, 32-33 GNB).
If you had red our writings, Mike, and if you could possibly be honest, you would not say we are bashing Islam to make “Christianity” look better. We vigorously “bash” (tell the truth about) the manmade “Christianity” that has many names of blasphemy (Revelation 17:3), which take Christ’s Name in vain while using Him for personal gain and power in this world. God has, in fact, raised Islam as a scourge and rebuke to all the hypocritical, lukewarm faiths of men.
Therefore, we do not dispute that you and Islam have your place, appointed by God as vessels of wrath, serving the spiritual prince of liars, and serving him well. You, however, are not dealing here with religious phonies that pay homage to his lies, deceptively promising love, beauty and ecumenical bliss. We, by the grace of God and His mercy, are not here to spiritually live and let live so that you and others may do evil. We are appointed by the real and true God, the Lord Jesus Christ, to unveil the man of sin and destroy him by the brightness of His coming.
Jesus Christ has come to fulfill the Law of God, which among other things, says this, as recorded by His servant Moses:
“If ever you have among you a prophet or a dreamer of dreams and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder takes place, and he says to you, Let us go after other gods, which are strange to you, and give them worship; Then give no attention to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams: for the Lord your God is testing you, to see if all the love of your heart and soul is given to Him. But keep on in the ways of the Lord your God, fearing Him and keeping His orders and hearing His voice, worshipping Him and being true to Him. And that prophet or that dreamer of dreams is to be put to death; for His words were said with the purpose of turning you away from the Lord your God…” (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 BBE).
We are called, not to a carnal warfare, but a spiritual one, and by our testimony we have put the false prophet Muhammad to death.
You ask us and others to highly value all religion because you seek acceptance for Islam, not because you value other religions, particularly the Truth, the Word of God made flesh and Lord Jesus Christ. You know very well what is preached in your mosques. We do not give credence for one moment to the claims of Muhammad or Islam, nor will we accept the yoke of his bondage of fear and intimidation. By the grace of God we stand in His Name and call Islam the lie that it is, before a fearful world that dwells in darkness. Progress will be made when people shed the lie for the Truth, and a glorious day that will be.
Thankful to have the opportunity and privilege to shed light on these things by answering your lies,
Which is “hate literature,” the Koran that promotes bigotry and subjugation of all those not in agreement with it, presuming to be mandated by God, or that which refutes this presumption and exposes the ungodly spirit underlying an unholy and abusive religion? We answer another former customer at Harvest Haven who is offended at the wrong literature.
One of the purposes of this paper is to discover the contents of the Koran to all, and to expose its spirit and essence. Perhaps as importantly, we want those who call themselves moderate Muslims to know what they are calling themselves and to what they are committing themselves when calling themselves "surrendered ones."
What happens when Islam is not given respect as a legitimate revelation from God, let alone the preeminent place of influence it demands? All pretense of tolerance is dropped and its true stance of bigoted hatred is made manifest, as here with Ali after we have answered his arguments against the preaching of Biblical truth.