A False Gospel
How can we find a man wrong who preaches repentance and the cross of Jesus Christ? He’s wrong because he preaches a false repentance and illegitimate representation of the cross, coming from a false Jesus conceived by man. Here we show a defender of Todd White how Todd perverts the words of the Bible and creates a false spiritual life for himself and his followers.
We got this response to False Teachers – Bill Schnoebelen & Todd White: Different Flavors of the Same Poison:
You need to not accuse men of God of being false teachers… How are you going to call Todd White a false teacher… Please think before you publish accusations like that because these are serious men who represent God so you’re not only insulting them but you’re also insulting God.
We aren’t accusing men of God of being false teachers, Addy. We aren’t even accusing false teachers of being false teachers. We’re proving false teachers aren’t men of God. We clear the Name of Christ of any association with liars, thieves, and murderers. Why can’t you see this? Because you’re false and the god you serve is Satan, father of liars, thieves, and murderers.
Paul and Victor
So Todd White heals people with the help of Satan? I serve Satan so the church I go to must also serve Satan right? So we cast out demons with the help of Satan? We heal people with the help of Satan? Come on brother you’re better than this.
“For false Christs and false prophets will arise and show great signs and wonders; so much so that, if it were possible, they would deceive even the elect” (Matthew 24:24 MKJV).
So, Addy, Jesus should be better than this? Who is He to call into question the wondrous works of your false prophets?! And Paul is right there with Him:
2 Thessalonians 2:8-12 MKJV
(8) And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the breath of His mouth and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming,
(9) whose coming is according to the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
(10) and with all deceit of unrighteousness in those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, so that they might be saved.
(11) And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie,
(12) so that all those who do not believe the truth, but delight in unrighteousness, might be condemned.
2 Corinthians 11:13-15 KJV
(13) For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
(14) And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
(15) Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
Just who are you, thinking you know better than Jesus and Paul? The signs and lying wonders of your prophets and teachers don’t justify them or count for godliness.
We’ve given proof from the Lord that Todd White is false; where is your proof that God is untrue? You have nothing; how can you have anything when opposing the Lord Jesus Christ?
Paul and Victor
Haha it’s funny that’s what they claimed about Jesus too.
Matthew 12:24 “But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, “It is only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons.””
If a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand.
Im aware of the verses you mentioned but they do not apply to Todd White. And where is your proof that Todd White is false?
“Whoever answers before listening is both foolish and shameful” (Proverbs 18:13 ISV).
You need to read and understand all that’s provided before dismissing what it says or, even more foolishly, questioning its existence. Here is what you’ve overlooked on our site:
The main statement on his homepage (as of this writing):
“Our mission statement of the gospel is to become love so that wherever we go, people want what we have!”
Did people look at Jesus and say they wanted what He had? Who wants to take up the cross and be hated by all men? Jesus was despised and men hid their faces from Him, as prophesied in Isaiah 53. None were motivated by the kind of love Todd is doling out.
If anyone wants what the Lord came to give us, eternal life, that means coming to the cross and dying, something no person naturally wants to do. The natural man wants the goodies without paying the price. That’s what we see with Todd. He attracts men with the honey of false love (see False Love – Satan’s Last Stronghold), which is an empty promise of salvation without the cross.
Here’s what the Lord said people will see in His disciples:
“By this all shall know that you are My disciples, if you have love toward one another” (John 13:35 MKJV).
People know God has visited them because they see believers who love one another, not believers who gush over unbelievers in a gaudy demonstration of affection and affectation. And here’s the Lord’s description of the love believers have towards one another:
“This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. No one has greater love than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. You are My friends if you do whatever I command you” (John 15:12-14 MKJV).
The love of Christ is to obey Him, laying down one’s life for Him and His people. A demonstration of this is the life of His servant Paul, who taught us that Christ’s people are His Body.
Todd White is building on another foundation, “another Jesus,” and not the Sure Foundation of the Lord Jesus Christ Whom we preach at The Path of Truth. No matter how many gather to him, Todd is like a spark of fire falling on an empty beach, soon extinguished.
Regarding your question about Bill Schnoebelen and Todd White, they aren’t ministers of Christ. They’re self-appointed ministers – deceived and deceiving those who follow them in their man-glorifying ways.
Of course they say some true things; all false teachers do. Satan comes as an angel of light, quoting Scriptures and speaking as if he is the Word of God revealed, even with His power and authority:
“For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will give miraculous signs and wonders in order to seduce, if possible, even the elect” (Mark 13:22 MKJV).
Two documents we recommend are The True Marks of a Cult and Diabolical Doctrines. These will give you objective measurements to work with. Above all, however, you need to know that being kept from error comes by walking in the light you’ve been given. Without faith and obedience, knowledge is useless and worse, as James writes:
James 1:21-25 EMTV
(21) Therefore laying aside all filthiness and abundance of evil, in meekness receive the implanted Word, which is able to save your souls.
(22) But become doers of the Word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves.
(23) Because if anyone is a hearer of the Word and not a doer, this one is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror;
(24) for he observed himself and has gone away, and immediately forgot what sort of man he was.
(25) But the one who looks into the perfect Law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one shall be blessed in what he does.
Better not to know than to know and not do.
“And that servant who knew his lord’s will and did not prepare, nor did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he not knowing, and doing things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For to whomever much is given, of him much shall be required. And to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more” (Luke 12:47-48 MKJV). [END]
Here we are, Addy, answering you responsibly and giving you every opportunity to turn from your shallow, unexamined, satanic defense of man and yourself rather than identification with the Lord Jesus Christ by His cross. Love has been speaking to you. In return, you’ve been flippant and disrespectful to the Lord and His servants, not recognizing Him or His Presence. Not good at all. You need to sober up and repent, big time.
We can’t take your word for it that Todd is a man of God. We know otherwise. So reject what we have from the Lord and go with your gods. You will be destroyed with them, according to the righteous judgment of God.
“But let God be true, and every man a liar; as it is written, ‘That You might be justified in Your sayings, and will overcome when You are judged’” (Romans 3:4 MKJV).
I already read that but it didn’t make sense to me I tought you had something different.
There is nothing wrong with asking for money even my church is always asking for money for various things. How else is he supposed to carry out his mission of spreading the gospel.
He always talks about repentance and the blood of Jesus washing us clean. Here’s one example where he talks about regret vs repentance: https://youtu.be/Le67wtRtyfg
And I really don’t want to be rude brother but I don’t know what videos you’ve been watching, he always talks about the cross.
By have what we want he means have the inner peace and joy that you can get from none other than Christ.
And what are you talking about “something the natural man wants to do without paying the price” ? We don’t have to pay the price Christ has completely paid it for us. You insult christ when you think your works contribute to your salvation. But that ofcourse doesn’t mean that grace is a license to sin. Telling people that they’ll burn in hell if they don’t accept Jesus is not going to work. We’re not christians to go to heaven, we’re christians to be who we were create to be.
Brother this is the Gospel don’t take it personal or get offended or catch an attitude, you died to yourself remember? No matter who you’re arguing with do not lie to yourself. Humbel yourself, humility is good. And ask the holy spirit if what you’re seeing is actually true.
If you’re sure that what these false preachers are preaching is wrong then why don’t you go and preach the truth instead of critiquing others? again no intention of being rude all do respect brother.
The reason our posting and writings don’t make sense to you is because you’re a silly girl, a captive of Babylon walking in the confusion of those who do their own religious thing outside of the cross.
This perfectly describes Todd White, one of your mentors or role models. He doesn’t preach the cross at all. If you could hear what we’re saying in the link I gave you about the cross, you’d readily see this. Todd also preaches another repentance, not the godly one of the Scriptures. He is, as another person said in summing up the popular preachers of today, a “motivator,” not a man of God. You don’t know the difference, because you’ve never met the Lord and don’t know His ways.
I watched the Todd White video, “Regret vs. Repentance.” I’ll give a rundown of the false gospel he preaches according to his own words, which I’m writing for those who will listen. You’re not listening, Addy, because you’re a fool filled with meat.
You say: “Why don’t you go and preach the truth instead of critiquing others?”
Don’t those sent by God warn His people against false prophets coming in the Name of Christ? Is this not the foundation laid down before us?
Acts 20:29-31 KJV
(29) For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
(30) Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.
(31) Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn everyone night and day with tears.
Doesn’t it take the light of God to identify and dispel darkness, the truth of Christ to expose and banish lies? We know so, as do those who receive our words by faith.
Speaking in the video of repentance, White says: “When the blood of Jesus cleanses me from dead works, it’s as if I never sinned.”
Here are the Scriptures he mangles:
“Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God” (Hebrews 6:1 KJV).
“For if the blood of bulls and of goats and the ashes of a heifer sprinkling the unclean sanctifies to the purifying of the flesh, how much more shall the blood of Christ (Who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without spot to God) purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God” (Hebrews 9:13-14 MKJV).
When we turn from the righteousness of trusting in form and willpower, our consciences are thereby cleansed and unburdened from dead works. We’re empowered to serve the living God by faith. That, however, doesn’t make it as if we’ve never sinned. The ramification of our sins can last years, even lifetimes and beyond, but the new trajectory set by the Lord frees us from depending on our righteousness and justifies us by His grace.
Titus 3:4-7 MKJV
(4) But when the kindness and love of God our Savior toward man appeared,
(5) not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit,
(6) Whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior,
(7) that being justified by His grace, we should become heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
Did the apostle Paul preach what Todd White teaches? Did Paul say it was as if he never sinned?
“Faithful is the Word and worthy of all acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief” (1 Timothy 1:15 MKJV).
Yes, those who come to Christ have their sins forgiven, but that’s different from saying it’s as if they never sinned. Todd has cobbled parts of the Scripture together in his own understanding to make a spiritual Frankenstein monster – an image of himself. After his past as an atheist heathen, he’s found a new life, but not according to the power and Spirit of Christ. He lives according to the Scriptures he perverts into positive affirmations that empower him to act as God.
“I love who You created me to be,” he gushes, putting His own thoughts into God’s mind in order to be somebody and to quell his raging insecurity. Those are not the words of one who knows he’s loved by God. Those are the words of one who loves himself above all and tries to convince himself that God loves him in the same way. Those are words of unbelief from uncrucified flesh.
“We haven’t mixed the truth of the cross with faith, and it’s profited us nothing.”
You can’t have the truth of the cross without faith, except if you treat the cross as a doctrine and formulaic approach to having the life of God, which is precisely what Todd does. Here’s Todd’s version of the “truth of the cross”:
Then all of a sudden we try to live and get this thing on with God. We say we love God, but you can’t love God. Why? Because Romans 8 says that nothing can separate you from the love of God in Christ Jesus. And this is what the list is – “I am fully persuaded, that neither angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor life, nor death, nor things present, nor things to come, nor any other created thing shall be able to separate me from receiving the love of God that is in Christ Jesus.”
Problem: There is one thing that will eternally separate you from the love of God – it’s your past. And your past didn’t make that list…. It didn’t say your past because the blood of Jesus and the cross of Christ – if the reality of the blood of Jesus is preached and understood it wipes away everything that you wish you’d never done and it leaves you clean before your Father. And if you trip, if you slip, you don’t stay in the slip, you don’t sit there and wallow in your dumb shame. You confess to God that that’s not who He created you to be. And He’s faithful and just…. 1 John says that He’s faithful and just to cleanse you from all unrighteousness, so that the only thing that remains is righteousness.
There’s a world of difference between confessing and repenting of your sin and confessing that God doesn’t want you to see yourself as a sinner. The former confession brings forgiveness and puts you on the path of restoration and life:
“If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness” (1 John 1:9 MKJV).
But the latter confession is a different kind – it’s not an admission of unworthiness, but is, instead, an affirmation of worthiness in ourselves rather than in God. “We’re too good to be sinners – God never intended that – so get out of there and believe the best about yourself; that’s how He sees you!”
But didn’t God make you to be a sinner? He put the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil before Adam, knowing that Adam would fall to sin and us with him. Paul writes in Romans:
“For the creation was not willingly subjected to vanity, but because of Him Who subjected it on hope that the creation itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God” (Romans 8:20-21 MKJV).
There is also a significant difference between what Paul wrote in Romans 8 and what Todd quotes him as saying, exposed by one word in particular added by Todd. Paul said there was nothing that could separate us (those who believe) from the love of God in Christ, whereas Todd said there was nothing that could separate him from receiving God’s love. Paul spoke as one in Christ. Those in Christ cannot be separated from Him, because no power is greater than Him. But Todd speaks from without, as one presuming to receive God’s love, which he doesn’t have and can’t receive because he’s seeking the lusts of his flesh.
“You ask and do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend it in gratifying your lusts” (James 4:3 EMTV).
So who are you and who is Todd White to be taking the Scriptures and twisting them to make yourselves feel good? And guess what? In doing so you’re eating from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, making yourselves as God. You’re dead in your sins because of this, just as God warned Adam. You haven’t inherited His righteousness by faith – you’ve found a way to have your own by finagling.
White has it all wrong: We take up the cross, not to wipe away our past sins, but to wipe away the sinner. When we’ve taken up the cross, Christ had already put away our past sins. We now need to walk in faith and obedience through Him to have ourselves, the sinners, finally done away with. That is our job and portion from God for our salvation:
“And when He had called the people unto Him with His disciples also, He said unto them, ‘Whosoever will come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me. For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for My sake and the Gospel’s, the same shall save it’” (Mark 8:34-35 KJV).
White knows nothing of the cross – he’s never turned from himself to God in order to take it up. Total confusion comes from his lips and is lapped up by the naïve and spiritually uneducated who don’t know the Lord and only care to bolster and console themselves in the flesh.
The whole point of Paul’s message is that nothing can separate us from God’s love in Christ. Of course that includes our past, if we are in Christ. On the other side of the coin, anything can separate us from God if we aren’t in Christ, Who embodies God’s love.
White has no idea what the love of God is or how to be in it. He doesn’t know the Lord Jesus Christ. His approach is pure spiritual razzmatazz, psyching people into a state of belief which has nothing to do with the true faith of Christ. He appears to be walking the talk, and people want in. Here’s his secret:
“I want to leave you tonight with a clean conscience, so you can get this thing on with God. See people say, ‘Todd, how do you walk in boldness?’ The reality of boldness is determined by who I see myself to be in my Father’s eyes.”
If you can only get yourself to see yourself as clean and godly, using Todd’s formula, you too can be bold and “successful” like him. What a horrible payday is coming his way and to those who walk in the presumption and delusion he preaches, when the façade of faith comes tumbling down for good.
Todd asks his audience:
“Who here would like to live free from guilt, shame, and condemnation? Okay good, then we’re on it. Here’s the deal. If the cross is understood the blood of Jesus cleanses your conscience from dead works and then you finally can serve God. You know the Bible doesn’t say deny the devil, pick up your cross and follow him. It says deny yourself. You have to get past who you were so you can become who God says you are. You have to enter into a place of being.”
The cross isn’t something we understand and thereby have God – it’s something we take up, just like the Lord did and His follower, Paul, who tells us the cross is the way to enter His life:
“I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ lives in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, Who loved me, and gave Himself for me” (Galatians 2:20 KJV).
We see that the cross is the love of God – His towards us and us towards Him, by which we cannot be separated from Christ. Denying ourselves isn’t “getting past who we were,” it’s giving up who we are – every bit of it, just as the Lord said:
Luke 14:26-33 KJV
(26) If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple.
(27) And whosoever does not bear his cross, and come after Me, cannot be My disciple….
(33) So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsakes not all that he has, he cannot be My disciple.
Todd is passionate and comes across as very sincere, which is what makes him convincing. He is deceived and very deceptive – coming in the power of false love – Satan’s last stronghold.
A profile advertising Todd on CBN.com says: “He has been blessed to receive impartation from Randy Clark, Bill Johnson, Roland and Heidi Baker, and Benny Hinn.” We see their unsavory influence:
Bill Johnson – The Bottom of the Barrel: A Motley Crew of Demonic Mockers
Benny Hinn – A Deliberate Liar and Scoundrel
By the way, Addy, you say, “There is nothing wrong with asking for money even my church is always asking for money for various things. How else is he supposed to carry out his mission of spreading the gospel.”
Says who? What makes you think that because your church asks for money, therefore it’s right to do so? Where do you find Jesus Christ and His disciples, or any of the churches in the Scriptures, soliciting money? Nowhere, that’s where.
When the disciples were sent out to preach, they were commanded to take nothing with them, nor were they to ask anything of those to whom they preached – nothing, and God fully met their needs, moving hearts to provide voluntarily without being asked, thus demonstrating He was the Source and Provider. But you, Addy, your church, and Todd are of the world, serving the prince of this world, who savors the things of men, not of God.
The Lord provides for His workers without their depending in the least on men. You don’t know that, being ignorant of the laws and principles of the Kingdom of God, which are not of this world.
Furthermore, you have nothing to do with the King while you worship Him in vain with your lips, along with Todd and company. You’ve been snared by “another Jesus” and “another gospel.” It’s subtle to you, but not subtle at all to those who know the Lord Jesus Christ. You are in witchcraft.
One day, as you feed with the swine, it will dawn on you that what we say is true because we serve Him Who is True.
Paul Cohen and Victor Hafichuk
We answered others who spoke up in Todd’s defense on our forum. Click HERE to see the discussions.