In response to the last accepted reply from Paul and Victor, which Paul e-mailed to blog participants, Zach wrote:
How do I get off this list? The name calling is appalling by those who claim the testimony of the Messiah. He will sort out the sheep from the goats. This is a waste of time. Please delete me from any further arguments.
Paul’s reply:
When you say “Messiah,” Zachary, are you talking about the One Who gave this testimony?
Matthew 23:27-33 MKJV
(27) Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs, which indeed appear beautiful outside, but inside they are full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness.
(28) Even so you also appear righteous to men outwardly, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
(29) Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you build the tombs of the prophets, and decorate the tombs of the righteous,
(30) and say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
(31) Therefore you are witnesses to yourselves, that you are the sons of those who killed the prophets;
(32) and you fill up the measure of your fathers.
(33) Serpents! Offspring of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of hell?
The Lord is sorting the sheep from the goats. Trinitarian idolaters/atheists have Him forever coming in the future, but He is here now. That’s what makes you people atheists and anti-Christs. For you Jesus Christ exists in the past or the future, but never here and now, coming in the flesh.
You have already been sorted, Zac. Even your own words indicate this is so. We will delete you from our mailing list, unless you decide to communicate further. Then we may have more to say, Lord willing.
Paul Cohen
Tom responds:
Paul, I dont think "please delete me" needed a reply. why do you copy everyone on a simple e-mail except to stroke your own pride? kinda haughty don’t you think? out of common courtesy, why not keep the replies between you and the intended recipient? does Matthew, Phillip, Bob, and Zac need to be on each one? seriously??
Victor – you allow people to represent you, and Christ in this way?? I would be ashamed.
Thanks,
Tom Burgee
Victor and Paul’s response:
Tom, you are a reader and judge of hearts, are you? Do you really know why Paul cc’ed everyone? He did so to inform. He had an opportunity to speak truth into darkness and took advantage of it. As much as we know how, we bring everything to the light for all to see and hear. Thus, we do battle with the prince of darkness. (Lord willing, all this will soon be posted at our site, in its entirety for all to witness. Is that pride?)
Throughout Biblical times and thereafter, prophets spoke what they were given, where and when sent, and they didn’t wait for man’s invitation to speak against sin. They would have been waiting for the moon to drop to the earth.
Would you accuse “goforthandpreach” of pride by standing on a corner in Reno with a mike and preaching, while filming his “righteous works”? Not likely, but do you know why he does it? We know it isn’t God’s doing, but his own. And he thinks he is serving Christ? Likely, you do, as well.
You defend “common courtesy”? You are all about form, aren’t you? Which is exactly Satan’s m.o. “To hell with declaring truth if you’re going to do it in a socially inconvenient way or one that is unacceptable to the etiquette of the world that lies in wickedness and perishes daily,” you are saying.
As for “intended recipients,” God intended for all those on the list to receive truth. Who are you to oppose the preaching of truth for courtesy’s sake? Paul’s cc to several instead of only Zachary is nothing compared to what the Lord is capable of doing. How courteous was Jesus in the Temple with a whip of cords?
I am very thankful that Paul has been given the faith, knowledge, understanding, courage, will, and spirit to address wickedness. In 1979, when I met him in Israel, delivering the Word of the Lord to Paul, the Lord informed him that he was called to tell the people their sins. Here he is, here we are, and you are powerless to stop us and foolish, indeed anti-Christ, to try.
When we post false teachers like Ray Comfort, we receive defensive notes from some of their followers and companions. Not that we need a confirmation of our position, but it is readily evident by the followers’ words and attitudes that what we speak of those teachers is true. We expose the false teachers to warn others, and those others need only to witness reactions like yours to be assured that we speak the truth. Those who are given will thankfully nod their heads in agreement with us and wonder at the blatant contradiction of darkness.
It’s good to see you’re off drugs for the body and mind, but sad to see how the drug of Mystery Babylon’s golden cup has intoxicated you to Hell, where you now dwell in a satisfied stupor of self-worship. You need to repent, Tom. Come out of worshipping yourself in the Name of Jesus. You have taken upon yourself His Name in vain, and your days of self-righteous religion in the Name of Jesus are over. You have blasphemed, God is not at all pleased, and you will know it.
Had you red our testimonies, you might not have accused us so wickedly as you have, but it isn’t about knowing and loving others to you, is it, Tom? It’s about getting your doctrine and brand of counterfeit salvation out, isn’t it? Do you not prove, by your words, negligence, and spirit, that your gospel, the one you have experienced, is counterfeit?
You sign off with, “Thanks.” Why? I wish you would truly thank me for our bringing the true Gospel of repentance and true faith unto salvation in Jesus Christ to you and to your blog participants, not that I need, want, or deserve any thanks. But for your sake, if you were thanking me for the right reasons, I could rejoice that something good is happening for you. Instead, we must stand by and see you suffer, as we have already seen over the decades with so many who refuse to hear the Lord Jesus by us. He is finished winking, Tom, and we are the last straw, His final call.
Tom, Paul here. Zachary didn’t just say, “Please delete me.” He gave a reason for wanting to be deleted, based on a bogus representation of the Lord Jesus Christ, which I pointed out to all who received his email. The fact that I Scripturally established his presumption and error doesn’t matter to you, because of your sin and the state of death that has left you in, which Victor described in his letter. You don’t care about anyone else besides yourself. You prefer they all remain in Hell with you.
Victor and Paul