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What the Lord Has Taught Us About Tithes
and Offerings
Three letters Victor wrote on tithes
and offerings:
Part 1
Shalom, Ingrid, and all others included!
I cannot let this topic go without further speech toward you on
it. I want you to pray about it and ask the Lord to keep and to
guide you. If I am wrong, God forgive me and spare you. May He
enlighten you and reveal to you my heart, whether it be good or
evil.
The Lord never rebuked
me for tithing. Instead, He blessed me. |
When I first became a believer, I had great debts that I had tried
so hard to control over several years, ever since I had begun to
earn money, and bought a car and house. The very year I became
a believer, my debts were wiped out and I had a new car, the kind
I wanted, without trying to get it, paid for in cash.
That year
I had tithed to the church to which I was going, a tithe being
a tenth of my gross income before deductions (a tithe means “a
tenth”). This I had been given to do; given, I say, because
there were many about me who were not giving nearly as much as
I was. Yet I was the new believer among many churchgoers who presumed
to counsel and to nurture me. So perhaps it was not given them.
Also, I was giving what was considered to be the bare minimum.
I was surprised when others were possibly giving less; I expected
they, as “mature believers,” would be giving more.
Perhaps some or many of them were. I do not know.
Now it could be that my financial house came to order that year
because I had repented, and not because I was tithing. Certainly,
tithing would be vain without repentance, as would any other work,
if ever so good in itself. But in His guidance, the Lord never
rebuked me for tithing. Instead, He blessed me, and allowed, if
not taught, me to believe that I was being rewarded for giving.
I never doubted it.
The following year, I continued to tithe and He provided for me,
without my getting into any debt, though I was not working but
going to Bible school. (Debt is not provision but a condition or
circumstance often brought on by lack of provision.) One day I
had rent due... seventy dollars (that was in 1974, for a tiny basement
bachelor suite). I had no money at all. I received a gift in the
mail for fifty dollars for my 28th birthday and Marilyn (my future
wife at the time) came over and gave me twenty dollars as a gift.
(I did not tell her I needed money for rent.) Voila! Seventy dollars,
precisely, and the rent was paid just on time.
At the end of that year, Marilyn and I were married. The following
year, we decided to give twenty per cent. There was little income;
we went to Europe (Brussels included) on a three and a half month
trip with Operation Mobilization, worked some months with churches
and worked only a few months with my former employer. We were well
provided for, lacking nothing at all.
To whom did we tithe? To the Lord we
tithed. |
Then in 1976, we decided to give fifty per cent of our income.
That year I had earned, I believe, 3800 dollars. We tithed half
of that. We drove a good car... 1973 Volkswagen fastback, miles
everyday, lived in a two year old home in the country, ate as kings,
and had all we could desire! Never did we lack!
To whom did we tithe? To the Lord we tithed. But how or by what
channels? We gave to Oral Roberts, Jimmy Swaggart, Billy Graham,
World Vision, and to Operation Mobilization (with whom we went
to Europe in 1975), and likely to others. We would not give in
those directions today, but we did not know any better then, being
young in the Spirit. Yet the Lord did not rebuke us, and He did
not deny us any good thing. We were, in conscience, giving to Him.
He did not emphasize to us where we should give, only that it should
be given, and that we should strive to learn where and how much
to give.
What would we do the following year? Should it be more than the
year before? As much? Less? Seventy, eighty, ninety percent? We
enquired of the Lord. We were at that time shown that all we had
was His... all. Our lives were His, and nothing we considered to
be ours was ours and only ours. All was His. If our lives, how
much more all that pertained to them!
That year, we gave as we
were led. We tithed no more. A preacher came to our town in 1977
(Dauphin, Manitoba) to hold tent meetings. We were scraping pennies
at the time, living in an old apartment, the bane of Dauphin,
Manitoba. People were embarrassed to identify with us for that
reason, besides
the fact that we were openly professing ourselves believers in
Christ. I gave one entire paycheque to that preacher. He was
thankful for it, and had needs we were not aware of. John Poepke
of Michigan
was his name. We were thankful.
From that day forward, we were
no longer scraping pennies but our bank account began to grow,
though my income was minimal. The day would soon come when
we would use that money to travel to Israel, by the commandment
of
the Lord,
to deliver a soul from his troubles, a soul with whom you have
had the joy of communicating even today. He has become our
friend, and not just any friend, but a brother and co-worker in
Christ.
We met Paul in Israel in 1979. He left his wife and all that he
had with her, to obey God. Thereafter, financially, though his
needs were met, he had little and lived poorly until 1987 when
he began to tithe to us in the Lord. Then the Lord began to bless
him financially, so that he came to be one of the most successful
business machines salesmen in Montana in a short while. He tithed
generously, and the Lord gave to him generously. For a time, he
bitterly reacted against the Lord, went his way, ceased to give,
and returned to having little or nothing. He can fill you in on
more.
When my brother and his family with six children came from Toronto
to Lethbridge to submit to me in the Lord, they had nothing, and
I mean nothing. They had an old station wagon, rusting out (as
many cars do from the east), with the foam dashboard and upholstery
in tatters, a tiny, old trailer that was falling apart, half full
of boxes of disposable diapers, and the other half with all their
worldly, very humble belongings. He, his wife and their children
were in rags, the children sick. In Toronto, he had labored for
seven dollars an hour as a handyman, while others were working
for thirty, and even then the customers weren’t paying him.
He had been six months behind on the rent of his claptrap home
in the slums of Toronto.
Tithing must
be done in pure faith, not with hopes of reward.
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When they got here and came under our
wing, they began to learn how to live, how to tithe of their
income, and how to run a business, etc. Soon it was that they prospered
in many ways. To make a long story short, they eventually turned
away from the Lord, but in turning away, they had more than
when
they turned to Him.
When they withheld tithes from us, the Lord withheld business
and income from them; the moment they gave (and at times it was
almost literally the moment), the Lord would provide for them.
At other times when withholding tithes from us, the Lord would
not cut off the business, but there would never be enough, no matter
how much they earned! The bills would always eat up their income.
That is how it works. One can figure it out on paper, but the workings
are quite mysterious.
The Bensons could tell you their own story.
Yes, these are brief histories of our tithing. Tithing must be
done in pure faith, not with hopes of gain, not with hopes
of any kind of reward. It is, in effect, a sacrifice, without hope
of recovery.
Tithing is an acknowledgment of the sovereignty of
God, that He is the Provider of all things. It is an honor of
Him, an act of faith wherein we declare, “Yes, the Lord is my
Provider in all things. He is able to provide whatever I might
need or want. I wish to honor Him with that substance only He has
given to me. It is not my employer, not my charity, not the government,
not my own skills and shrewdness, not my education, not my parents,
not anybody nor anything else but the Lord Who has given me all
that I have, and He is over all.”
It is an acknowledgment
that we value the spiritual over the physical, the heavenly
over the earthly, and that we wish to say to those whom the Lord
has
sent to minister to us of spiritual things, “Blessed
is he who comes in the Name of the Lord,” not with the
lips only, but with our very lives, including our earthly substance.
(However,
keep in mind that the Lord will have obedience, not sacrifice.)
Where to give? We are the storehouse, if you can receive it. Here
is where it is at. Do we need your money? Not in the sense that
one might think. Indeed, we have more than enough, much more than
do you. You have very little, actually. You are a widow, on a widow’s
pension. But there is the story of the widow in the Gospels who
gave her two mites, and whom the Lord commended for her giving,
not because of the money, but because of her faith.
I do believe, according to Malachi 3:8-12 (please read), that
the Lord holds in store for you a blessing, a great blessing, as
you believe and respond to these truths I now write in this letter
for all to witness. If I am wrong, let the Lord say so. In fact,
if I am wrong, and in evil, let Him destroy me. I take no pleasure
in receiving your tithes for the sake of money, and if I do, unknown
to the secret recesses of my heart, let Him destroy me, I say,
let Him destroy me utterly. If I am wrong, I already despise myself
for even the possibility of being wrong. But these are the things
I understand now, as I understand them, and I can do no other.
I say these things to all those who have ears to hear and hearts
to heed. The Lord bless you and give you sure discernment and understanding
and faith, to do wisely and not foolishly. Amen.
Let us never for a moment worship mammon.
Let us worship the True God. |
By the way, I have called us the storehouse, our ministry here
among them that believe. Indeed, we are seeing things happening
here wherein one day, there will be provision for some or many
of things, as there is even now, for those whom the Lord chooses.
Have not many of you already partaken of that abundance, even if
only in part? You, Lois, Trevor and Mark, have you not? You, Paul,
have you not? Yes, indeed! And there would have been great provision
for others, too, had they believed. Remember “The Harness
of the Lord”? For those who have submitted to that harness,
great provision, but for those who have chosen their freedom, great
want.
God cause us to ever walk in the truth, not deceived as are so
many, lured away by the lusts of their carnal appetites, deceiving
and being deceived, destroying themselves. Let us never for a moment
worship mammon. Let us worship the True God, the Creator of all
things, the One Who gave Himself for us freely. Let us worship
Him in Spirit and in truth, as He would have us to do. Amen.
Please read the following Scriptures: Malachi 3:8-12; 2 Corinthians
Chapters 8 & 9; 1 Timothy 5:17-18; Luke 21:1-4; Deuteronomy
16:17; Romans 12:8; I Corinthians 16:2; Leviticus 14:30; Ezra 2:69;
Genesis 14:20; 28:22; Leviticus 27:30; 2 Chronicles 31:5.
There are many more verses on tithing, offerings, sacrifices,
and almsgiving. Sufficient for now that you should read these,
and if you have it to search out others, by all means do so.
He knew
we were giving to Him. In doing so, we were never without.
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Part 2
Tithes, Offerings and Alms
The Lord raised me up from earliest spiritual youth to bring tithes
and offerings to Him. While He blessed us when we gave, He never
rebuked us for tithing and bringing offerings, no, not once. Yes,
it was initially in, by and through the church systems that He
did so. (The church systems do have true things in them.) But I
was greatly blessed by the tithing, and though we gave to persons
and organizations we would not give to today, having been immature
and ignorant then, the Lord honored those tithes and offerings,
blessing us, financially and otherwise. He knew we were giving
to Him. In doing so, we were never without.
In turn, we counseled others to do the same. They were also blessed
in many ways. When they gave in faith, they were blessed, but when
they withheld, it did not go well for them. Paul and Lois could
tell you their own stories on this matter, though I could give
you a perspective concerning them that perhaps they are unable
to give.
Some say today that tithes ended with the Temple and the Levitical
priesthood. People brought tithes and offerings to them and thus
were the priests sustained in their service of the Tabernacle and
the Temple until the day of Christ when those were done away. However,
if the validity of tithes and offerings had ceased, why did the
Lord bless others and us by continuing in these things?
Furthermore,
tithes were not limited to the upkeeping of the Old Testament
religious system of God. Millennia before, Cain and Abel both brought
sacrifices
to God; Noah, it says, brought burnt offerings. Abraham gave
a tenth (tithe) to Melchizedek, long before the Tabernacle and
the
priesthood were instituted. Also, Jacob covenanted with the Lord
to give a tenth of all that he received to Him if God would be
with him. I have no doubt God was with him, I have no doubt that
Jacob knew it, and I have no doubt that Jacob kept his vow. So
we see that the tithe was not limited to the existence of the
Levitical priesthood that came after Abraham and Jacob.
If the Melchizedek
priesthood continues, the act of tithing also continues.
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The New Testament is silent, as far as I can tell, on the subject
of tithing. It does speak of offerings, of supporting the ministries,
exhorting those receiving ministry to honor with their substance
those ministering to them. It also speaks of helping other brethren
when they were in need, such as when the saints in Jerusalem were
in a famine. There were also believing widows in Acts in need of
church support, which they received provided they were walking
in holiness, having had a good reputation, ministering to the needs
of others, and too old to support themselves. It also speaks of
alms, that is, giving to the poor in general, I think.
When I say, “I think,” there seems to be some question
in my mind as to whether any and all poor should be given to. Those
in the Lord, brethren, should certainly be helped. Also, I have
no doubt that those not in the Lord should also be helped in some
cases, but as the Lord gives wisdom.
There are cases when some
should not be given anything, whether because the Lord is doing
something with them and we would be found interfering, or for
another reason. Of course, that certainly applies to giving to
apparent
believers as well, as was the case with you and Pascal, Ingrid.
There were things happening there which restrained us from giving
as we could have. Now we know why.
There is one place in the New Testament where tithes are mentioned
to some extent. That was when Abraham was mentioned as tithing
to Melchizedek. Now Jesus is known as a priest after the order
of Melchizedek. My conclusion, whether warranted or not, is that
if Melchizedek received tithes, though not being a Levite, tithing
was not limited to the Levitical priesthood. And if the Melchizedek
priesthood continues to this day, which it does, we ought to consider
that the act of tithing also continues.
We are called upon to lay down our lives
and give. |
The question then arises as to who Melchizedek is and how He is
to be honored, if honored at all, with tithes. I believe that Melchizedek
is in Jesus Christ, or, as the Bible testifies, Jesus is a Priest
after the order of Melchizedek. Those who are in Christ and in
the priesthood are part of Melchizedek. Does that mean all believers?
Perhaps it does. Or does it mean that some chosen are called as
priests and ministers toward the rest of the Body of Christ?
If
we go by the Old Testament type, there were twelve tribes in
Israel, but one tribe received tithes and offerings of the rest.
I believe
that the same principle applies in our present position as I
mention further in this letter. The tithes and offerings come into
the
ministries, even as Abraham tithed to a priest, and even as the
people brought their substance to the apostles, laying it at
their feet.
I believe that in the Body, there are those chosen to minister
to the rest of the Body in spiritual matters (Ephesians 4:11-16;
1 Tim. 5:17,18), that the rest of the Body should honor those set
in authority over them, both in word and deed, spiritually and
physically (financially included), as the Lord leads and provides.
As for the Body of Christ as a whole, it is to minister to the
rest of the world, to the unbelieving, as God inspires, commands,
leads, gives to do, but we require nothing of the world at any
time except in mundane matters such as in business. Neither is
the world obligated to us concerning the spiritual. We are called
upon to lay down our lives and give. When they believe, they
will honor us, much in every way.
One problem that exists, as in all other matters, is that there
is always the false as well as the true. There are those who teach
falsehood on this subject, and require others to give to them when
clearly they have no right to receive. They have nothing to do
with the Lord Jesus Christ.
As well, those who are legitimate are
to minister not for filthy lucre, but because they are sent to
do so, without pay requirement, trusting that the Lord will provide
for them. And He does; He truly does. He is faithful and pays
His
servants true wages, and abundant beyond imagination.
God is not
pleased that sacrifices are made just anywhere.
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Yet we
can all fall or wander off to seek and to serve mammon. God forbid
that I write these things to anyone with the secret motive
of financial
gain. That is why I have hesitated all this time to say anything
to you ladies. The Lord judge these things and deliver us both
from offending Him and instead grant us to glorify Him in all
that we think, say, and do.
Truly, I don’t need your money, but perhaps you need to
honor the Lord with your substance, in whatever way you are enabled.
The Lord will show you what is good and right.
One more thing: There is Scripture that instructs one, saying
that God is not pleased that sacrifices are made just anywhere,
but that they should be made at the place He chooses. We should
search out those Scriptures and specify them for you, and will
do so, Lord willing: Deuteronomy 12:13-14, 17-18, 26:2.
I think that it might be fruitful if you were to discuss these
things with Paul and Lois, with Mark and Trevor. Perhaps they might
be given to say things that may confirm or deny that which I have
been saying. I am reluctant even now, though today it was finally
there, to speak on this matter.
All need to consider this teaching. And I believe I just received
from the Lord that I have been withholding this teaching without
good cause, and that in speaking it forth for all concerned, the
Lord will now open the windows of Heaven and pour out a blessing
as we follow through in obedience. If anyone is at fault here,
it is I, for not speaking as I should have long ago. With the hard
experiences and revelations I have had about myself concerning
money, I have been very reluctant. If I have done harm, please
forgive me.
The Lord grant you wisdom in this matter altogether.
Part 3
This is a portion of a correspondence I had with a fellow on the
subject of tithes and offerings. I perceived his erroneous thinking
on the matter, and responded accordingly.
He: In my approach to the tithing issue, I seem to come down sounding
like
we should help everyone BUT those engaged in evangelism and teaching.
I: No, I didn’t get that impression, but I did get the impression
you split hairs: “Give the minister of God food, but don’t
give him shelter and clothing or transportation...let him work
for it...he wasn’t meant to have ALL or even MOST of his
needs supplied.” Also, “Give him food but don’t
give him money to buy it.” Almost like buying a drunk a meal
rather than giving him the money for a meal lest he should buy
a bottle.
He: But, the Body of Mashiach [Messiah or Savior] is engaged in
many different kinds of work, requiring a wide variety of gifts.
We all are equipped with the specific gifts we need to do what
we are sent forth to accomplish. Some of us are given the gift
of “giving.”
I: Yes, there are many gifts...giving, prophecy, healing, tongues,
teaching...but ALL are counseled and commanded to give of their
physical good where needful, if they have such, and especially
when receiving the ministration of Yahweh by His servants. Shall
they receive and not expect some reciprocation, feeding themselves
on the spiritual, yet clinging to their worldly goods as though
they were not indebted to do good? I have had dealings with such
people and came to recognize that when one was not willing to part
with his money, especially with those who faithfully ministered
to him, he was not receiving the spiritual goods to the heart but
only paying lip service. He was worshipping Yahweh with the lips,
and mammon with the heart.
He: It should be apparent that those who have
very little have not received
this gift, although I know that you may have seen confirmation
to the reverse. There are coincidences in life.
I: I’m not sure what you mean here. If you are saying that
when you see one with very little of this world’s good, the
gift of giving is obviously not present, I would have to say that
you are very wrong. The widow casting into the treasury had the
gift of giving in full splendor, giving all she had, as little
as it was. The rich, on the other hand, did not measure up to her
at all, casting in that which they did not need, as bountiful as
it might have appeared. The issue was not whether those using the
treasury needed it or not, or were righteous or not; the issue
was her relationship with God. But this I know: I have seen those
who sow sparingly of their physical goods also reap sparingly,
when the Lord decided to deal with them on giving and they were
resisting. They also had little spiritually.
He: If there were “magic strings” to pull to get YHWH
to do things for us, one of the easiest to understand would be
the prosperity message so commonly heard today.
I: The prosperity message is indeed one-sided,
insidious, erroneous, and, I would say, an abomination to YHWH.
The true message of
salvation is about laying down this life, not luxuriating or
increasing it. The false message is one of salvation and prosperity
of the flesh, contrary to the fact that flesh and blood cannot
inherit the Kingdom of Heaven. It is a “good news” message
that says the flesh can and is meant to do well in this life,
calling it to the throne and not to the cross. It is a message
that speaks true words, but a message that is misapplied, deceiving
the hearers who seek to save themselves and prosper selfishly.
The prosperity message is the medical treatment applied to save
the cancer rather than to remove it. Saving the cancer, the patient
dies.
He: But, Acts 20 describes a much different situation
with the elders at
Ephesus, as br. Paul enthusiastically warned them against the coveting
of
wealth -- he provided his own life as an example, and quoted Yahushua’s
words “it is more blessed to give than to receive.”
I: Paul had the gift of giving. But if he did receive provision
for his needs at times, which he declared to the Corinthians that
he did, was he having lapses into covetousness? Obviously not.
He said, “I have ‘robbed’ other churches, taking
wages of them, to do you service. And when I was present with you
and wanted, I was chargeable to no man: ...for that which was lacking
to me the brethren which came from Macedonia supplied....”
Was it food only that he received or accepted? Hear what else
he said:
“Have we not power [privilege, authority, right] to lead
about a sister, a wife, as well as other apostles, and as the brethren
of the Lord, and Cephas? Or I only and Barnabas, have not we power
to forbear working [whether it be for food or any other necessities]?
Who goes to warfare any time at his own charges? Who plants a vineyard,
and eats not of the fruit thereof? Or who feeds a flock, and eats
not of the milk of the flock?” (1 Corinthians 9:5-7)
He goes on to say, quoting the law as do you:
“Do I say these things as a man? Or does not the Law say
so also? For it is written in the Law of Moses, You shall not muzzle
the mouth of the ox that treads out the corn. Does God take care
for oxen? Or says He it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes,
no doubt, this is written: that he that plows should plow in hope;
and that he that threshes in hope should be partaker of his hope.
If we have sown unto you spiritual things, is it a great
thing if we shall reap your carnal things?” (1 Corinthians 9:11
KJV)
I think you have made the receiving of wages for the necessities
of
ministers of Yahweh “a great thing” and have a viewpoint
contrary to the
Law and therefore to YHWH. Yes, Paul goes on to say, in balance
of argument, that he and Barnabas did not claim this God-given
right according to his perspective and dedication. He was not saying
it was wrong to be partaker as soldiers, vineyard keepers and shepherds.
When Peter was called upon to feed the flock, to feed Yahushuah’s
sheep, he was not commanded or even advised to get a job. And he
did not do so. At one point he said that it was not appropriate
that they should work, but that they might be free and given to
the ministering of the Word of Yahweh. That was his job, his calling,
his solemn duty, as it was of all those called to feed the flock.
He: Yahushua was supported by several wealthy women in His ministry.
They
didn’t even feel the giving more than likely.
I: Yahushua did not get a job, nor did His disciples. Is He not
the Pattern of the true minister of God? Does He not replicate
Himself in His followers, as a seed multiplies its own kind when
falling into the ground? And, again, it is not about how much one
has to give, but that one would give as the commended widow, if
he or she were in harmony with Yahweh and therefore obedient, responding
in faith to Him by and through those around him or her. The women
who followed Jesus gave by faith, not because they had wealth (a
matter of works), but because they had the gift of faith.
He: But to think that everyone is expected to give a “tithe” each
week from
their incomes to give to someone who just teaches the group for
a few hours is just not found in Scripture.
I: Indeed it is not. Hirelings operate that way;
wolves operate that way;
true ministers of Yahweh do not. True shepherds in The Shepherd,
called,
chosen, sent, faithful and inspired by the Shepherd Yahushuah,
lay down
their lives for the sheep, whether they “eat of the milk
of the flock” or not. If you are addressing
the false ones, you do well. But if your conception of ministry is that of one who “teaches the group
for a few
hours” be it per week or even per day, as one finds everywhere
in the church systems (none of which are of God), then you are
in darkness. True shepherds (ministers of God) have laid and do
continually lay down their lives for the sheep. It is not a job
or an occupation measured by time or energy or money but a consecrated
life, a living sacrifice unto YHWH. With such, there is no guaranteed
income, no pension, no work schedule, no retirement, none of the
things of the world, as the world orders them.
He: No one carried money on Shabbat, and orthodox Yahudim still
don’t.
I: Shall a minister of God (or anyone else for
that matter) receive on or
only on the Sabbath? Is it wrong for someone to give on Shabbat
if they
are willing, be it money, clothing or food? I don’t think
so.
He: I understand how you might feel, if you have
been engaged in this sort
of tradition, or even still are.
I: You should know that it has not been a matter of tradition,
whether it has been my giving or receiving of those to whom I have
been appointed to minister. In these matters has Yahweh directed,
confirmed and blessed my steps; it is not a matter of men’s
works (Psalm 17:4).
He: All I know is, there is no way that I could
accept money from those I
teach....
I: It is not a problem or wrong in and of itself to do so.
He: and it’s my soul that has to answer to Yahushua some
day.
I: He is “I AM.” He is present and those in Him are,
here and now, communicating with and answering to Him in the present,
being present in Him.
He: Nor can I tell you that I think it’s OK for you to do
so, but if you find yourself in a situation where you are not a
burden on the “flock”, and can find funding from a
source, group, or rich individual who is called to give because
they have the gift of giving, then this is something different.
I: The true shepherd’s source is not a rich person or group
or even the “flock.” His trust is not in the arm of
flesh, but he has confidence that El Shaddai provides all his needs
abundantly. Yahushua did not depend upon or look to the wealthy
women or any flesh, but to the Father only. You have yet to know
these things whereof I speak. Allow me to teach you, not for any
money, not for gain (I ask you for nothing), except it be to gain
you for YHWH.
He: Stealing the tithe from needy widows, fatherless, poor people
is not a good thing to be doing....
I: Is stealing anything from anyone ever good? Perhaps you use
words loosely here but your statement seems to acknowledge the
presence and validity of a tithe. Furthermore, if you defend a
position that one ought not charge for ministry, I agree wholeheartedly,
whether of the poor or of the rich. Such a thing is utterly contemptible
at any time, in any circumstance. Yet isn’t that what happens
when “ministers” accept a salary? Yet if they are hired
by agreement, then they ought to get paid. The abomination is that
these things are done in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ, Whom
the Scriptures declare to be Yehoshuah, Yahshuah, Yahushuah, Yehushua,
Yahweh, the son of David...whatever way you wish to spell or articulate.
Can any man today stand and say, “This is precisely how they
spoke His Name”? Some may think so. Only by revelation from
YHWH can one do so, and He has not given me that in that matter.
But you seem to have this emphasis that the poor can’t afford
to give and therefore should not be taught or expected to tithe,
as though Yahweh does not provide for them. I again remind you
of the widow, not to justify taking from the widow or orphan, but
to point out that your focus, ironically, seems to be on money.
Do you really think that YHWH did not provide for that widow thereafter?
I tell you, faith, and not money, is of value to YHWH, to Yehoshuah
(“...without faith it is impossible to please God”).
He was well pleased with her faith and she did not go away empty
or desolate in anything.
He: teaching Torah must not cost the student.
I: I agree. He must never be charged. However,
the student in faith will
gladly give by faith, selling all that he has, if necessary, to
gain that knowledge of the Holy that far surpasses any earthly
wealth.
He: But, the worker can eat from the fruit of his labors. That
is not to say that his mortgage will be paid too, just that he
can eat from his labors, the hospitality of those he instructs.
I: Friend, the passages of the ox treading the
corn are figurative, eating
included. All needs are spoken of and addressed. Would you believe
for a
moment that when Peter’s sandals wore out, he went out and
got a job
because there was an understanding that the purse and the giving
by the
givers was for food only? When Yahshuah asked them if they lacked
anything after He had sent them out, was He speaking merely of
food? He
had instructed them to take bare necessities to start, guaranteeing
them
that they would be provided for. He said, “Provide neither
gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses...nor scrip...neither
two coats, neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman
is worthy of his meat [not merely food literally, but pay for service rendered,
to cover all needs]” (Matthew 10:9-10).
A man works for all necessities. Why would God provide him with
food only? Even a heathen employer wouldn’t do that, how
much less YHWH? But you focus on flesh, on flocks, on rich people
to provide, do you not? I do not see you acknowledging, much less
glorifying, YHWH in this perspective. Yahushuah was not telling
His disciples that people would provide for them, but that they
were in His service and He would provide (whether by those ministered
to, by angels, by ravens or by fish with gold coins to pay taxes...He would provide).
He: Hospitality is not a burden on the giver
but a weekly never-ending yoke
of 10% might get to be a strain. This is partly because life is
dynamic; people have family members and neighbors to help, people
lose jobs, have babies, get in accidents, and find themselves having
to lean on others occasionally.
I: You do not speak faith. “But my God shall supply all your need according to His riches in glory by Yehoshuah Ha Mashiach” (Philippians
4:19). How much of your need? All. What? Only if you don’t
tithe too much or if you don’t always tithe? I have already
written to you that when we gave, we had more; when others gave
to us, they had more. Again, only if by faith and not by law, willingly,
joyfully and not grudgingly. YHWH does not honor a grudging giver
or one who gives because he “has to.”
Jacob did not give a tenth because he had it to give, nor Abraham
to Melchizedek (note that in neither case was there anything to
do with the
Levitical priesthood), but because they had faith, no differently
than
did the widow casting into the treasury. The fact that they were
wealthy
and she was poor does not enter into it. Ten percent of 10 dollars
is 1
dollar; ten percent of 1 million dollars is 100,000 dollars. YHWH
has
made all things just and fair for all. And those who honor the
Lord, not
by the works of the Law (which is not honor to Yahweh) but by faith,
them He honors. Never did any who honored YHWH in tithes and offerings
go without. He blessed them. They went without when they did not bring
their firstfruits, not having faith that He meant what He said
and would provide. As Malachi writes, when people do not bring
their tithes to the storehouse, they are robbing YHWH. Giving unto
YHWH, expecting nothing in return, is an act of faith, a sacrifice
well pleasing to Him.
One of the valid arguments in support of the keeping of Shabbat
is that it was not only for Jews, introduced at Mt. Sinai by Moses,
but that at the very beginning Shabbat was established. And Yahushuah
did not say that Shabbat was for Jews, but for man, in other words
all peoples. The same for tithes and offerings...Cain and Abel
brought offerings in the beginning, long before the Mosaic Law.
One of these gave for himself (to get...he was the “father
of the ‘prosperity message’“), and one in faith,
for YHWH. And Abraham also gave a tenth to a priest, long before
the Levitical priesthood was instituted. Both the Shabbat and the
giving of firstfruits (tenth, tithe) were from the beginning. Just
as YHWH has not nullified Shabbat, neither has He nullified taking
the firstfruits of one’s income and offering it to Him.
I, for one, am a witness and do testify to the veracity of YHWH’s
Word and to His present-day faithfulness in Malachi’s prophecy:
“Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there
may be meat in My house, and prove Me now herewith, says the Lord
of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of Heaven, and pour
you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive
it. And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall
not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine
cast her fruit before the time in the field, says the Lord of hosts.
And all nations shall call you blessed: for you shall be a delightsome
land, says the Lord of hosts” (Malachi 3:10-12).
We were talking only this morning about how many years ago, for
months, my wife and I had very little until one day a preacher
came to town holding tent meetings. We attended and when he was
leaving, we were led to give him everything we had, an entire paycheck,
small but all. We had been living from bill to bill, rent to rent,
nothing over.
And did I agree with all that this preacher stood for and preached?
No. In fact, I wrote him a letter, attempting to correct, even
rebuke, him in much of his thinking, much as I do you now, particularly
concerning faith in God, His faithfulness, His sovereignty, not
in theory or pleasant thinking but in reality.
I also, sadly enough,
received a prophetic word that his ailing wife would not live.
He tried to believe she would, thinking that, by his faith, he
could save her. Sure enough, some time later, we heard that she
had passed away. We were ministering to him truth, as much and
more than he to us.
It did not matter. He had the need; we had
the need, but God caused us to give to him both spiritually
and physically... money, not food. Had I given him offerings
unto God in food alone, it could and would have spoiled, and
he would not
have had money for gas and bills because he was preaching freely,
rather than
working for pay.
From that day forward, the coffers began to
fill for us, beyond the natural explanation of things. Soon
the Lord
was to send us to Israel to minister to a brother in need,
one we had yet to meet. Our savings were spent on that.
Yes, the dynamics of life bring all those things you mentioned,
and above
them all is Yahushuah Ha Mashiach, by and for Whom all things were
made
and do consist. He is LORD of all; praise be to His Name.
He: This is why br. Paul wrote: ”At this present time your
abundance being a supply for their want, that their abundance also
may become a supply for your want, that there may be equality”.
-- 2 Cor. 8:14 Over time, different people will have an abundance
to share. Those having an abundance now, may fall on bad times;
and those who they helped will be in a position to help them later.
This is simply saying that life is dynamic, and we should share
with those who have the need. What good would it be to have everyone
giving to the same few individuals?
I: True. I can agree, and I think I covered this in my story above.
He: The text at Acts 4 often quoted by the wolves
reveals that what was
placed at the apostles’ feet from time-to-time was distributed
to those
in need -- nothing is kept back to help feed the apostles’ families,
pay
for a building to meet in, send to missionary Paul, or any of that.
I: Yes, wolves will quote anything; the Scriptures
are wrested by many;
but the issue before us now is: “Are you ‘rightly
dividing the Word of
Truth’?” Yes, those gifts were given to those in need,
but how can you
say that the apostles’ families were not helped in some of
this? Your
mindset interprets the words that way but the record does not support
your interpretation at all. As for a building, men build buildings
often
(not always) for their own pride and glory. As for sending to “missionary
Paul,” we already have record that there were those who did send to him for sustaining him in his ministry. Let’s not
split hairs...the money Peter and the apostles received in Acts
4 was not sent to Paul, but, truly, we speak of the principles
here and not the events.
He: I know this is a tough to hear.
I: Certainly for some, but not for me, at least not in the way
you think. I know my place and my God. It is not a problem for
me, but my concern is where you are coming from and where you are
going.
He: But, there are still the “givers”, who have been
given the gift of giving -- these are people who are there to support
the needs of the Body, whatever they may be.
I: I agree that some have a special gift there.
Thus ends the applicable portions of that conversation. I will
add here that a person must receive from the Spirit of God in order
to understand the things of God.
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