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Staff Opinion Page
Libraries Are No Place for Censorship
By IR Staff - 09/18/08
Quite a controversy has been stirred in
the past few weeks over a single book at the Lewis and Clark Library.
The book, “The Joy of Gay Sex,” was petitioned to be removed
from the library’s shelves after a Helena man stumbled upon it
on one of his frequent visits to the library.
In a public hearing Tuesday night, the testimonies of supporters advocating
to keep the book slightly outnumbered those who wanted it removed from
the shelves.
The debate over this book, which has been available at the library
since the early 1990s, resides over whether the content of the book
belongs in a public library setting, paid for by taxpayer money, for
all to see.
But the heart of the argument goes beyond the content of a single
book and points to the type of resource a public library should be.
And it should be a place free of prejudice.
That means making available books that serve a wide variety of interests.
A library should be the vehicle to learn, the portal to information.
Much like a newspaper, a library should be a reflection of the community
in all the books and services it offers.
On the eve of Banned Book Week, Sept. 27 to Oct. 4, the only national
celebration of the freedom to read, it’s relevant to note the
history behind the challenge of books in libraries, schools and bookstores.
Thousands of books have been challenged over the years, for reasons
ranging from violence or sexuality, profanity and slang, racial and
social.
It’s interesting also to look at some classics that have banned
from libraries in the past:
-- “The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn” by Mark Twain
-- “Forever ...” by Judy Blume
-- “Catcher in the Rye” by J.D. Salinger
-- “Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows” by J.K. Rowling
-- “Beloved” by Toni Morrison
Indeed, nearly every book on the library shelf could potentially offend
or disgust a reader. And there are some subjects which have no place
anywhere.
Yet it would be a far greater disservice to a community — and
to democracy — to have a library that censors what people can
and cannot see.
Comments:
monkey wrote:
It's nice to see this from the Library Staff. I'm sure no one will
be surprised when you vote to keep the book, regardless of how many
of us parents send in comments that we don't want that trash in our
library. And good job trying to compare the joy of disgusting gay
sex to The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn. You've just spurred
me on to
encourage every parent I know to oppose this book. Obviously it's
not going to matter how many do, your "staff" has their
mind made up. SAD. Colton wrote:
Question?
What is the IR point of view on current library Electronic
Access Policy? Specifically paragraph 4 - "All Internet
resources accessible through the Library are provided equally
to all library
users."
Does this mean the IR condones men viewing explicit pornography at
a computer station next to an 13 year old girl trying to complete a
homework assignment at an adjacent computer?
Or has fear of censorship has replaced common sense?
al wrote:
Kudos to the IR for taking this public stand against the most recent
attempt at library censorship. The self-appointed moralists behind
such efforts to censor are less concerned about "protecting
society" than
they are about furthering their own agendas and aspirations. Freedom-loving
people must never fail to confront them and deny them.
skosena wrote:
I am a bible believing christian...I am morally opposed to the gay
life style. That being said....I think the book should STAY... I
want our library to serve and educated all kinds of interests.
There are
those that do not agree with my faith....or hunting...or having children...but
we should not and can not dictate to one another what we believe
or embrace. And as a parent it is my job to monitor and police
what my
children read and where they browse in the library.
c'est
moi wrote:
This situation serves the families of Helena by bringing to parents'
attention the quality of literature at Lewis & Clark Public Library.
Conversely (or not - who knows?), this situation lets young children
know the quality of literature at Lewis & Clark Public Library.
But let's keep hammering this censorship issue - after all,
it's all about choice, and we want our children to make well-informed
choices;
especially about sex. And if children can't get information from
their parents or their churches regarding morality and life choices,
then
it's the public libraries' responsibilty to provide the necessary
resources to help shape your children's lives.
I stand by my comment yesterday encouraging families to have
their children wash their hands after visiting the Lewis & Clark
Library.
patriot wrote:
The IRs opinion concerning the removal from the library The Joy of
Gay Sex seems a little contradictory. The second to last paragraph,
Indeed, nearly every book on the library shelf could potentially offend
or disgust a reader. And there are some subjects which have no place
anywhere. So, how do we define nearly. By definition, is the IR going
to be the Censor and make the determination of what is appropriate
and not offensive. Why not place the book along side copies of Playboy
and Playgirl to be fair to people of all sexual orientations. Or the
library can have separate sections, Fiction, Non-Fiction, Straight
Sexually Oriented People and Not so Straight. Ardent Christians are
opposed to the ardent liberals, somehow we should be able to compromise.
Its not surprising the IR has responded to this controversy
with an opinion that is not very well written and fails to articulate
the true
meaning of freedom of speech and the press. I would like to thank
the IR for affirming my impression of the IRs journalistic mediocrity.
PaulCohen wrote:
In testimony given at the most recent library board meeting I addressed
the canard of this being a free speech and censorship issue. You can
see my testimony at www.thepathoftruth.com, on the Notice Board, along
with a summary of testimonies from the first board meeting with commentary.
More from this week's board meeting is in the works.
The IR should know better that to stake out such a position. Come
on, people, you won't even let someone write a letter to the editor
here that mentions p...orn...ography, yet you champion keeping a book
in the library that has vile depictions of homosexual orgies. Do you
also disallow the use of the word "hypocrites"?
I said many things in an interview granted to Alana Listoe, very little
of which made it into your paper, and what did was out of context.
And you have the nerve to disallow discrimination based on standards
of decency whereas you exercise discrimination based on prejudice against
decency and godly reason? Shame on you.
Skosena, you say you are a "bible believing christian." You
are nothing of the sort, except by your own false definition. Jesus
Christ laid down His life to deliver people from their sins, but you
are in agreement with providing information that validates them in
sin, even laying a trap for those not yet ensnared. You are worse than
a sodomite.
Al, who appointed you to preach your brand of "morality"?
You contradict yourself. You also confuse terms. What you call freedom
is lawlessness. Freedom brings life, but lawlessness death. Your free
tongue is lawless, evilly surmising my motives, even stating them as
fact without evidence. I have no desire whatsoever to try to protect
you from the consequences of your sins. God forbid that I should try
to deny you the destruction you demand. You fully need and deserve
to reap the fruits of your ways, as you do even now and will.
Nevertheless, I speak the Truth for the sake of all, and should any
of you be ashamed of your conduct and repentant, I would be glad of
that.
c'est moi wrote:
Thank you, Mr. Cohen, for eloquently describing the hypocrisy of the
Helena Independent's "standards" in journalistic integrity.
I've also been censored by the delicate flower who screens obscenity,
while his paycheck-signer prints any amount of lies, half-truths,
or insinuation which would tarnish the reputation of whomever they
please
to discredit.
Bravo for holding a mirror up to this act of principled
pretense masquerading as an authoritative and reliable newspaper. ClancyCoot wrote:
It's
amusing how the IR commented about how much controversy has been
stirred up, when it was they themselves kept it going with at
least
three different articles touting Paul's concerns. I can understand
reporting such stories, but to let one person have all this attention
for his minority view over and over is bad journalism.
mama2 wrote:
Since the first mention of this issue in the IR, I have kept my children
out of the library. We are a Baptist family and I take the responsibility
of my childrens' spiritual wellbeing very seriously.
The Bible clearly calls homosexuality an abomination to God. You
can not follow Christ and also deny the immorality of homosexuality.
mykids wrote:
Straight, homosexual or whatever.....pornography is pornography and maybe
the library should be charged with child endangerment by allowing PORNOGRAPHY
on it's shelves and having it available for CHILDREN to get ahold of.
To the writer of the article above: This newspaper is supposed to
be NONJUDGEMENTAL. I do not enjoy reading this kind of one-sided trash!
As a parent, I am seriously offended that my children can gain access
to this book. I plan on commenting to the library accordingly.
I am not saying that the library needs to get rid of this book. However,
I am going to strongly suggest that they make it so that it must be
checked out by an adult and has adult viewablility only.
I would appreciate if the IR would be more open to the full truth in
future articles.
RM wrote:
So far what I see is a censorship question. That is while myself
and others find the book offensive isn't really the question. You can't
stop stupid, you can't legislate morality and like it or not there
are people who believe they have the right to do whatever they
want
with whoever they want. We live in a country where that is their
given right.
While I claim Christ as Savior I know Mr. Cohen, that comments
similar to "you are worse than a sodomite" could be
why the doors of the local churches aren't being used more than
they are. With Christian
love like that WHY would they wish to have a relationship with
Christ?
I see you know the word hypocrite, I wish you knew it's
meaning.
skosena wrote:
paulcohen...wow...I am not even sure if I should respond. I am pretty
sure you won't listen to anything I say...which is sad. I am not validating
sin. I am not a sodomite. I am a Christian. I Believe that Jesus died
for my sins and I have received Him as my savior. I Believe that He
is the only way to salvation.
But Mr Cohen...I don't live in a church state...I live in a republic.
And in that republic we share a tax system that provides a wide variety
of books in our Library...including the bible and the joy of sex and
the joy of gay sex. I will fight until the end for any right that someone
try's to remove from me based on my faith or based on someone elses
lack of faith. I will also fight Christians like you (see...I play
nice and don't attack your faith) and Christians like you will throw
hate at me and say I am "nothing of the sort" when I say
I am a follower of Christ. I want to be like Jesus and love them where
they are at...I want them to have that chance to know Christ and let
the holy spirit convict them about what they should and should not
read. I know that being hateful and having an social agenda will not
get me very far in the effort to love others.
ematt wrote:
Paul,
My what a tirade. Please cite the biblical passage where Jesus speaks
of homosexuality. As a side note who are you to judge skosena?
"It is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but
it is what comes out of the mouth that defiles... what comes out of
the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this is what defiles, for out
of the heart comes evil intentions, murder, adultery, fornication,
theft, false witness, slander; these are what defile a person, but
to eat with unwashed hands does not defile." (Matthew 15:10, 18-20)
You should be ashamed for bearing false witness against those you
know nothing about.
p.s. cest moi, looks like you don't have to worry about washing you
hands either!
al wrote:
Mr. Cohen's 12:44 PM post is quite revealing, exposing his seething
self-righteous anger for all to see. Mr. Cohen, you have blown it.
No pun intended. MTRICH wrote:
It is simple. It is a public library and the materials in it
are subject to local sensibilities and laws. I posted the legal definition
of obscenity
earlier this week and there is little doubt this material qualifies.
This is not a matter of orientation represented, the Karma Sutra qualifies
as well and is therefore not suited for a public library. I have issues
with those who do not believe their own speeches. I know these Librarians
do not believe in their own NO CENSORSHIP statements as I cannot check
out a Hustler, Penthouseor Playgirl for that matter. Not that I should
be able to from a public library. We must of course limit the censorship
of books or speech but there are limits to what can be allowed too.
Obscenity and Hate Speech laws help our society mark these limits.
Libraries have NO legal right to disregard these limits and provide
books, movies or internet access to minors that would cause the immediate
arrest of an individual who provided the same access to the same child
outside of the library. Like it or not this publicly funded library
is not a LAW FREE ZONE. Homosexuality, in and of itself, is not a valid
reason for censorship in this day. It is also not exempt from obscenity
laws. Put these books out of reach of our children or get them out
of the library altogether.
PaulCohen wrote:
Al, the only thing revealed to you is your face in the mirror of Truth.
All your words, including and particularly your foul imagination, reflect
what is in you. Those who have eyes to see will see, and those who
are blind, like you, see themselves.
Ematt, Jesus Christ said, "You shall not lie with mankind, as with
womankind; it is abomination" (Leviticus 18:22 JPS). Yes, that was
inspired by Jesus Christ, Who is Almighty God. Jesus said, "Before
Abraham was, I am" (John 8:58). He also said that not one iota of
the Law would fail, till all of it was fulfilled.
So who are you to judge me, seeing you have nothing of substance to
say? Take your own words to heart: "You should be ashamed for bearing
false witness against those you know nothing about." As for Skosena,
read on.
Skosena, I did not say you are a sodomite; I said you are worse than
one, based on the judgment of Jesus Christ: "And whoever shall not
receive you, nor hear your words, when you depart out of that house
or city, shake off the dust of your feet. Truly I say to you, It shall
be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the Day of
Judgment than for that city" (Matthew 10:14-15 MKJV).
So what that you say you believe in God? Of what value is your word?
The devils also believe, and they tremble. Jesus said that many would
come claiming to believe on Him but would have nothing to do with Him,
or He with them. You state it yourself. You propose to fight to the
end for the world's rights to sin and blaspheme God, because you are
part of this world.
"And He said to them, You are from beneath; I am from above.
You are of this world; I am not of this world" (John 8:23 MKJV).
You say you want to be like Jesus, but you are not. He is not like
sinners. You speak of another Jesus, one you can imitate in your corruption.
Your love and works come from this putrid self-righteousness. Jesus
Christ did not join Himself to sinners or fight for their rights to
sin. You are serving Satan, the prince of this world, whom you call
"Christ."
RM proves his own words, "You can't stop stupid." He writes: "...there
are people who believe they have the right to do whatever they want
with whoever they want. We live in a country where that is their given
right." I don't know where he lives, but where we live, the police
and courts disagree with his legal assessment. Men cannot have sex
with minors or distribute smut to them, for just two examples of restrictions
on behavior.
As for the churches not being visited on account of the false Christianity
I have described, if that is so, the fault lies with the hypocrisy
of those who falsely profess Christ and not with those pointing it
out by the Word of God. Jesus Christ condemns false religion. Only
those who love their falsehood and self-righteous selves more than
the Truth want to have a relationship with your phony Christ, RM, and
what you call "love," which has nothing to do with Him. How am I a
hypocrite for pointing these things out? You don't say. You have no
idea at all of what you are talking about.
secret77 wrote:
I think I am going to puke!!
kzeiler wrote:
secret77 - Why are you going to puke?
Well, I know why I feel nauseous. Mr. Cohen has proven that not only
is he most certainly NOT a Christian, but also has proven that he's
against our freedoms guaranteed by the First Amendment of the Constitution
of these great United States of America.
skosena, Al, ematt & others - I'd say that continuing to argue
with such an obvious wild-eyed zealot is fruitless. Since I'm weighing
in 2 days later, maybe you guys already figured that out!
gfguy wrote:
Paul, could you please take one step off the soap-box you and your intolerant
brethren like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson have staked out and understand
that the entire Bible can be reduced to one word...love. Now, if love
is what you are projecting on to others by calling them "sodomites," liars,
and servants of the devil, well God have mercy on you.
In addition, quoting the Bible does not make you intelligent. All
it tells me is that you know how to read.
gun961960 wrote:
Paul Paul Paul Paul....come on!! You seriously need to GET OVER YOURSELF!!
How about you worry about yourself and your family and let the rest
of us do the same. I find you to be vile and strange.....I wonder
about how you came across this book and why you have had it in
your posession
for like a month? Why are you so worried about this book...for someone
who clearly thinks that he is Jesus Christ himself and thinks (key
word) he speaks the Truth (which I did not know was capitalized)
I find it very odd you are so obsessed with this book. You are
a freak
of nature sir....you really are the most pompus, narcasist (sp?)
that I have seen on this blog ever!! Don't you understand that
people read
material and they take that information and make their own assessment.
My point is I have a lot of friends who have strong faiths and they
interpret the Bible in their own ways....what on earth makes you
think that the way you have CHOSEN to interpret the Bible is the "right" or "correct" way?
And lets get real here....you have religion, which is really factless....or
FAITH based...right? And then you have science....which shows that
indeed evolution did in FACT happen. Why does religion mean you have
to throw commen sense and FACTS out the window? Most religious people
believe the doctor when they tell them they have cancer and they
respect their treatment plan....most religious people give their
children vaccinations
as per their pediatricians recomendation....so why is science and
Facts OK then? It is very confusing to me....but I do know that
Mr. Cohen
is frightening and I think that most people can see him for what
he is...a fear monger!!
Victor wrote:
Secret77, you will puke, have puked, publicly and unashamedly, and
you will be lapping it up not long after you are done, having no recognition
or value for right or good.
Victor wrote:
Kzeiler, you will eat your vomit with your canine companion, secret77,
according to the proverb:
“As a dog returns to its vomit, so a fool returns to his folly” (Proverbs
26:11 MKJV).
What do you know of Christianity? It takes a Christian to know what
it is to be one. We are here to declare exactly what a Christian is,
by God’s definition and not a dog’s.
Victor wrote:
Gfguy, our soapbox is the Lord’s appointment, and therefore
will we speak, by His authority. We have no brother named Jerry Falwell
or Pat Robertson. Falwell is (or was) worse than those I address here – a
phony of the first order. We have no agreement with him. As for Robertson,
we must agree with many things he has to say, which are true, not that
we agree with all; we don’t.
And what do you know about love or the Bible? You murder the Christ
on a cross, are entirely unrepentant of it, and you dare to define “love” or
to preach it?
As men sent of God, if we have referred to any as sodomites or liars
or servants of the devil, it is because God has already had mercy on
us, and has authorized and sent us to speak, and to tell the people
what they are, what they are doing, and how they are destroying themselves.
You can’t see that we not only read but also understand the
Bible because you have nothing whatsoever to do with the Bible or Its
Author. Better you should shut your mouth and open your ears. You are
altogether ignorant and are now wading into your destruction. But you
won’t listen, so you will see if we know what we are talking
about or not. This is not a threat, but a sure word that will be fulfilled,
not by us but by the One Who sends us and gives us to speak.
Victor wrote:
Gun961960, the disciples of Jesus, as recorded in the Holy Scriptures,
God’s Record, forsook their families to be His servants. They “got
over themselves.” He called them to preach the gospel and the
truth to all unbelievers that they might be spared destruction. He
has called us to do the same. Your worry about yourself and your family
is vain and fruitless; it won’t work. Neither will religion work,
as with your friends. That is why we have to do what we are doing.
Does that sound crazy to you? You say that you find Paul vile and
strange. While God calls sexual perversity vileness and confusion,
you call the one God sends to speak against what He hates, vile and
strange. You find God vile, gun? Yes, you do, and we know it. We’ll
see who is vile.
As for Paul’s being a freak of nature, yes, to the world in
its decadent, hateful, and vile state, those who speak and stand for
right and good and Truth (with a capital – Jesus said He is the
Truth) are freaks; there are precious few of us. However, we are fully
assured that there will be a reversal, so that all men will eventually
be before God on bended knee, in worship, their tongues joyfully and
thankfully confessing that Jesus Christ, Whom men have despised and
called vile, is Lord of all. God has declared it will be so.
You say, “My point is I have a lot of friends who have strong
faiths and they interpret the Bible in their own ways....what on earth
makes you think that the way you have CHOSEN to interpret the Bible
is the "right" or "correct" way?”
First of all, if your friends had true faith, and therefore knew the
Author of the Bible, you would not consider yourself their friend and
you would have nothing to do with them, considering them vile as you
do us. Indeed, you are right when you say they interpret the Bible
in their own ways. They are not receiving God’s interpretation,
and His is the only one that counts, not theirs, not yours, not ours.
And what do you know of the Bible to make any judgment? How ignorant
and foolish you are that you can make judgments on matters and people
and God, of which and of Whom you are entirely ignorant!
As to our chosen interpretation, it is not our choice or interpretation.
God has given us His understanding by His Spirit. Therefore, when you
go on to say that this is a matter of religion, you are wrong again.
Religion is what causes all the trouble on earth. Religion is man’s
opinion and interpretation, making of God what they will. We have God’s
Truth, plain and simple, and we speak His Word to you, which you, in
your corrupt nature, scorn and scoff at, according to the Scriptures
(God knew you would). Peter wrote as God gave understanding to him:
2 Peter 3:1-7 MKJV
(1) Beloved, I now write this second letter to you, in which I stir
up your pure mind by reminder
(2) to remember the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets,
and of the commandment of the Lord and Savior by us, the apostles.
(3) First, knowing this, that there will come in the last days
scoffers walking according to their own lusts
(4) and saying, Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers
fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of
creation.
(5) For this is hidden from them by their willing it, that the heavens
were of old, and the earth out of the water, and through water, being
held together by the Word of God,
(6) through which the world that then was, being flooded by water,
perished.
(7) But the present heavens and the earth being kept in store by the
same Word, are being kept for fire until the day of judgment and destruction
of ungodly men.
We deal with fact, which is not at all the opposite of faith, as you
suppose. There is a righteous faith, based on true knowledge, which
is what we have, and there is an empty faith, which is based on nothing
but whim and fancy, which is what the religious have. Your friends
have the empty faith. If they had the real you would not like it any
more than you do here.
Evolution? Where has science proven evolution? Nowhere – no
fossils, no links, nothing shows the slightest trace of evolution.
Yet, proofs ought to be everywhere if it is true! Evolution is not
science; it is anything but; it is madness.
How did we get on this topic now? Nevertheless, it is all one. Damned
fools, and only damned fools, believe in evolution. God’s creation
screams aloud at every turn, glance, and breath of His Authorship.
What I find remarkable is that intelligence is evident only to those
who have faith. You are unbelieving and unintelligent. In your wisdom,
gun, you are really quite stupid, in heavenly terms, a veritable idiot.
So are all evolutionists – I don’t care who you are. And
God Himself says so (see our links). I was there too.
Gun, you write: “Most religious people believe the doctor when
they tell them they have cancer and they respect their treatment plan....most
religious people give their children vaccinations as per their pediatricians
recomendation....”
You are right, most religious people do, but again, we aren’t
coming in or by religion; we are not among those people, who bring
nothing but disrepute to God’s Name. True Christians will not
believe their doctor simply because their doctor said something. They
believe God. True believers in God, who obey Him, will not vaccinate
their children, destroying them. I do not know of one true believer
of God, who walks by faith and obeys Him, who has cancer. As for the
medical establishment’s treatment plans of cancer – radiation,
chemotherapy, and surgery, those are diabolical; they are butchery.
Those who are subjected to those treatments are not pleasing to God
and that is why they suffer both the disease and man’s so-called
cure, which is often and usually worse. You too will perish in your
ways, gun, being grossly ignorant of so many things, as many like you
are. Which should answer your next question:
“So why is science and Facts OK then?”
Evolution is not science; it is sheer deception, vain imagination
of fools and idiocy. Much (though not all) in the medical establishment
is no better. If you don’t believe us, you and yours will die
subject to lies and corrupt men’s machinations. Concerning these
matters, there are many “facts” on the internet.
Facts, gun? Just what are the facts? Do you know? No, you don’t.
That is why we are here to speak, so that you will know. It is for
your sake we speak. And that is why we are frightening. Wait till you
see the consequences of not heeding what we have been given to speak
from Him. Already you suffer them.
PaulCohen wrote:
Gun, what needs getting over is your lack of reason and moral clarity.
Let’s start with your wrong guesses based on a lack of facts.
I have the book in my possession, because, unlike you, I want to know
what I am talking about when I speak against something. Instead of
having any certain knowledge, you insinuate hypocritical motives on
my part, exaggerating about how long I have had the book in order to
pad your case. It is clear your motive is to discredit the things I
have said by trying to discredit me. But you lack any facts to do so.
You say the Bible is “factless.” That is quite bold of
you, a mere man, to call the accumulated testimony of men of God, culminating
in the testimony of the only begotten Son of God, “factless.” Where
are you getting your “facts”? Why should anyone believe
you over the Bible? On what authority?
Your knowledge of science is no better. There is no proof of macro
evolution, not a stitch. The reason why? It never happened, and
it is not happening. The only process at work is the devolution
of man
in sin, which is what has made men try to work God out of existence,
no matter how far fetched and patently absurd the “science” they
come up with to do it. That is also why people believe such nonsense.
Your protest against decency in the name of “common sense and
facts” is representative of the degradation of humanity. You
tout insanity in the name of sanity, myth in the name of science, and
murder in the name of health.
Most religious people, if they entrust themselves to doctors prescribing
chemotherapy and vaccinations, are the blind following the blind.
They are certainly not following good science, because they are
putting their trust in man rather than in God. He has provided
good answers
to these health issues that are wholesome, safe, preventative,
and affordable for everyone.
“Behold, this only have I found: that God made man upright;
but they search for many schemes” (Ecclesiastes 7:29 HNV).
One who hides behind the handle of “gun” sounds more like
a fear monger than the one who speaks openly in his own name. The facts
are plainly on my side.
PaulCohen wrote: Diazo, I do not consider the Word of God spoken by faith to be powerless,
because I know full well that the opposite is true. Someday you will
know it, too. The Koran is not of faith, however, so it has no power
with God. It may sway the unstable, and has, but nothing will come
of it in the end. The same goes for Zen Koans.
I attack no one of truth faith, or otherwise. I attack the lies of
those who call themselves Christians and are not, like Skosena. She
is worse than the most degenerate Sodomite, dirtying the Name of Christ
with her self-righteous whoredoms. As for others like you and gun,
I have answered your wicked thoughts and stupidities. If you are too
proud and stubborn to forsake them, that is your own fault and problem.
I am not intellectually dishonest as you falsely accuse. I gave you
a Scripture that proved Jesus Christ is God and one that proved He
agreed with all the Law. Here are many more about Christ as God Himself
appearing in the flesh: The
Most Glorious of Truths and Jesus
Christ, Almighty God.
And, as a matter of fact, I don’t eat scallops. Does God equate
the eating of scallops with homosexual acts? Not at all. You are doing
what many critics accuse those who believe the Bible of doing, being
nothing more than unthinking literalists. Who would believe that heathen
ignorant of dietary law eating a scallop is the same as a grown man
professing faith in Christ pursing an illicit sexual relationship with
another man? There is no comparison between the two, and you are wicked
to suggest that God would be so foolish as to agree with your knavish
interpretation of His Law.
Your suggestion that Christ and the disciples would have had to fend
off accusations of homosexuality is natural for the fouled condition
of your mind, living in this present day Sodom, but is not warranted
at all according to the facts on hand regarding what happened in those
days. First, the children of Israel were not raised that way. Second,
and more convincing, the people at large knew that Christ was of God,
so they would not have had even the remotest thought of impropriety
in His doings. Even His enemies had to scrounge to find something with
which to accuse Him, and not one of them dared to suggest He was allowing
or committing homosexuality. That should tell you something, but of
course, being full of hate for truth, you cannot see for looking.
It is not my personal religious belief that homosexuality is an abomination.
That is found in the Gospel of Christ, as I have shown, and affirmed
by the apostle Paul:
“Likewise, their men have given up natural sexual relations
with women and burn with lust for each other. Men commit indecent acts
with men, so they experience among themselves the punishment they deserve
for their perversion” (Romans 1:27 GW).
I cannot dictate what the library will do, but I can certainly speak
the Word of God for the good of all, something your reaction proves
very much needs to be heard. What is arrogant is for you to denounce
such speech, using every possible means to try to condemn the messenger
because you hate the Message.
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