Sierra
Chambers' Letter to the Editor with All Comments
Book Doesn't Belong in Library
By Sierra Chambers, 157 Saddle Mt. Dr., Clancy - 09/18/08
I agree with Mr. Cohen regarding the controversial
book, “The Joy of Gay Sex.” A book like that should be
removed from the public’s eye.
If a child or teenager ran across such a book, it could be very detrimental.
As a teenager myself, I know how impressionable I am.
This book is also un-Biblical. God made sex for a married man and
woman. I encourage you, Mr. Cohen, and thank you for standing up for
what is right.
Sierra Chambers
Comments:
diazo wrote:
Oh no! Un-Biblical books in the library? I should hope to shout. Remember,
the sign on the door says "Public Library", not "Christian
Bookstore". If I want to learn about such un-Biblical subjects
as astronomy, dinosaurs, Islam, capitalism, Marxism, or even (gasp)
human sexuality, I expect that information to be available at the public
library. As far as impressionable teenagers being exposed to sexual
material, we all know that your average teenager can access graphic
sexual images on the internet much more easily than making a trip to
the library.
Colton wrote:
...a child shall lead them.
gun961960 wrote:
Well Mr. Cohen....it seems you have succeeded in exactly what it was
you were trying to prevent. You now have teenagers writing letters
in support of banning books. Not only do they now know about the book, "The
Joy of Gay Sex" they are also supporting you in banning books
from the library. I think that we should now ban YOU from ever entering
the library!!
Sierra darling, while I respect your religious beliefs you are a
perfect example of brainwashing. Your parents have decided that
teaching you
religion is more important than teaching you acceptance and tolerance
for people unlike yourself. I would ecourage you to be more open
minded and warn you against being presumptious enough to ever speak
for God,
as though you have ever met this person and know what he/she has
said. I think that any God would be horrified to know that people
were spreading
hate and discrimination in his/her name. You are at an impressionable
age and I think you are old enough to know that unless you want to
know the joys of gay sex you should not read this book or others
like it. Good luck to you!!
mtsilvertip wrote:
Ms. Chambers gives me hope for the future of this country if a teenager
has the ability to cast off the attempts by popular culture to define
deviancy as "Normal", I take heart that there are at least
some of todays youth that can think for themselves.
I do not believe this book should be banned, but I do believe it should
be kept behind the counter just as other pornographic material at a
gas station. A child doesn't have the experience to see they are being
recruited to a perverse livestyle.
Let the children be children. If they wish to try homosexuality, Sadism & Masochisim,
bestiality, Necrophillia or whatever, let them do it once they reach
their majority at 21, not while they are just children, and not on
the publics dime at a library.
al wrote:
How would reading a book about homosexual sex be "detrimental" to
Miss Chambers, when it is evendent from her letter that she already
knows about it?
electstat wrote:
"Un-Biblical"? The majority of the books in a library are
un-biblical. Open up any astronomy book and find where it says the
earth was created in 6 days...it's not there. A library doesn't have
books for biblical reasons only - that's called your church. There
are many books, however, that talk about freedom of speech and freedom
of religion. While I will not check out the book, I did serve my country
to protect these basic rights.
wildrose wrote:
The library is for everyone in the community. No one is forced to
take a book off the shelf. If a book is offensive to a person, the
person has the choice to return it to the shelf or the library. If
a person makes poor choices and then finds a book offensive, it is
hardly the rest of the public who should pay the price for that person's
ill-judged choices.
We all have a choice. No one has to look at, read, or borrow any book
in the library. Heck, no one is obliged to even go to the library if
it bothers them so much. It is not the fault of the library or anyone
else that some people can't resist stuff that offends them, nor is
it the job of the librarians to protect those people (or their children,
for that matter) from their impulses. Some people borrow a book; read
it all or look at all the pictures; find it offensive; and then proclaim
that the rest of us should not have that option? They apparently feel
that they are qualified to act as the self-proclaimed moral arbiters
for the rest of us.
I disagree and believe in the free access to all information whether
someone else finds it repugnant or not. Libraries are repositories
of diverse materials and information. Some of that information is bound
to offend some people, some of it is worthless information that noone
should fog their brains up with, but it is not for the library staff
to make judgments of the content (judgments are subjective by nature)
of books as long as they are chosen within the library's guidelines.
This book has been reviewed several times and determined to have merit.
If we are going to go down the censorship road, I have a list of books
that I'm sure I would find offensive based on authorship alone. I don't
actually need to read the books, you see; nor would I, since I find
the authors so offensive that I am sure that the content is as well,
but I do think they should be removed. And, if we are going to censor,
then of course, my personal value system is the one that I think we
should be using, not anyone elses. Since I don't like war, violence,
conservative politics, religion, and hunting, you can see that there
will be a major cleansing of the shelves. First on my removal list
though would be the bible since it encapusulates so much of what I
find offensive to my system of values. It is morally obtuse, insulting,
obscene fiction rife with murderous violence, war, rape, incest, adultery,
as well as fallacy and contradiction galore. It does not fit in with
my value system and is not relevant to life so I don't want others
to have access to it at the public library....
ematt wrote:
Miss Chambers -
Should "On the Origin of Species" by Charles Darwin be removed
from the shelves as well? I've heard it can also be very impressionable
on young minds.
skosena wrote:
I am a bible believing follower of Jesus...I am conservative in my
politics...I am pro-life and believe that homosexuality is a sin (although
I am not opposed to gay marriage....it does not threaten my christian
marriage) I hate the war our nation is in but understand the reasons
and support our troops in their efforts. My husband hunts and I am
glad for it....I myself love to shoot trap and an occasional gofer....
wildrose and I seem to have very little in common....however I agree
with her completely when it comes to her opinion about what the library
is for. Censorship is not a part of freedom. I may not like some of
the things that are at the library but then that means that I need
to stay away from them......I find it ironic that Christians will say
that they do not want their taxes to pay for a certain book...do you
think that an atheist or agnostic wants to have their tax dollar to
go toward the purchase of the bibles or other christian resource books
that are available at our wonderful library. We are not a nation of
Christians... but of many people with many different beliefs. We as
Christians are not showing the love of Christ when we stomp our feet
and insist others live by our biblical standard.
gfguy wrote:
Yes, let's remove that book of sin. But why stop there. Let's just
start banning every book that is not certified by the "moral majortity." We
can have a book-burning bonfire in old anchor park.
Just what are they teaching the youth of today that would lend itself
to this kind of intolerance? If you don't like it, don't read it.
thedukeofhelena wrote:
Then don't pick it up and read it, Sierra. You're obviously wise enough
to do that much if you wrote this letter, right?
HRK wrote:
Sierra- You're that impressionable that if you looked at a 'gay' book,
you too would become a homosexual? Come on, we are all born who we
are. Like others have commented, don't read the book! The book should
remain. Don't all the supporters of the removal have anything else
better to do than worry about ONE book in the PUBLIC library????
dragonfly wrote:
Closing books closes minds. Closing books limits possibilities. Mr.
Cohen, talk with your children or grandchildren about what is appropriate
for your family. Go to the library with them. Show them would you suggest.
Offer reasons that do not speak against another person as to why a
particular book is not appropriate. Sierra, have a conversation with
your parents about tolerance for others. One group is not in charge
of what the entire population of Helena, Bozeman, or the country should
read. Next week is Banned Book Week. Read a banned book! I hope the
library staff keeps the book. I don't read books I don't like. I don't
tell others what to read. If I don't like a book or TV show or certain
websites on the internet I don't go there. Don't close minds and possibilities
by banning or burning books. Let's talk more about learning instead
of eliminating.
c'est moi wrote:
This situation serves the families of Helena by bringing to parents'
attention the quality of literature at Lewis & Clark Public Library.
Conversely (or not - who knows?), this situation lets young children
know the quality of literature at Lewis & Clark Public Library.
But let's keep hammering this censorship issue - after all, it's
all about choice, and we want our children to make well-informed
choices;
especially about sex. And if children can't get information from
their parents or their churches regarding morality and life choices,
then
it's the public schools' and the public libraries' responsibilty
to provide the necessary resources to help shape your children's
lives.
Don't we pay taxes for this, uh, service?
I stand by my comment yesterday encouraging families to have their
children wash their hands after visiting the Lewis & Clark Library.
SaraSchmidt wrote:
Hi Sierra, I appreciate that you spoke up. I wish to give some of
my personal experience: When I was a young girl, I attended a liberal
Lutheran church that was open-armed towards homosexuals. People began
attending who were cross-dressing and openly homosexual. As I became
further involved with this church, I was uncomfortable with mixing
homosexuality with Christianity, not understanding how you could get
around the verses in the Bible that clearly speak against this. My
mother said to me one night in front of the family, "Sara, if
you ever become a lesbian, I want you to know that I will always accept
and love you." Because of that evening, I grew up with a very
real sense of fear that I would somehow "become" a homosexual.
Like catching a cold.
The Lord has removed that fear from me.
Keeping this book in the public library perpetuates the mindset that
homosexuality is not a sin, and that it is a healthy lifestyle or practice.
Also, regarding "impressionable young minds," I once viewed
a lewd sex picture when I was quite young, and it seared itself into
my mind. I wish I hadn't seen it. It did not cause me to have pre-marital
sex, but it did "impress" itself into my mind. Sierra made
a good point.
smokeybear wrote:
There are many other things that need our attention rather than banning
a book at the library. It is a book - if you do not want your child
looking at it then be a parent and watch what your kids look at and
read. It isn't any simpler than that. Be a parent and parent your kids,
if you want to teach your kids what you believe instead of letting
them make up their own minds, by all means go for it.
Right now there are many other things in this world that are falling
apart - people with no houses (and books) in Texas, trying to find
the Idiot that killed people 7 years ago and that continues to kill
our soldiers, the fact that we have people living in poverty while
we give money and food to everyone else in the world.
Before you even begin to think about banning a book on gay sex, think
about how hard it is for other people outside your own life. Be
a parent and show your kid what is really important in life. By
the
way - why
aren't you trying to ban "The joy of sex"? Is it okay for
teenage pregnancies because it is straight sex? Is it okay for kids
to do whatever they want as long as it is straight sex? For goodness
sake, put yourselves in other peoples shoes. I don't see the gay community
all up in arms about "The joy of (straight) sex". In other
words, there are more things that are a lot more tragic in this world
and right next door in Helena. Please get a life and be a parent and
stop freaking out over the little things in life.
4061111 wrote:
We all have things we feel very strongly about and Mr. Cohen (and
Miss Chambers) should be commended for standing up for what they believe
in. In this instance, perhaps the best compromise is keeping the book
in the library, yet restricting access to it and books similar.
It is true, if you come across a book that doesn't appeal to you,
you don't pick it up. The internet brings much worse things into our
homes more regularly than the books in the library. And many TV shows
feature violence and sex.
ematt wrote:
1111-
Please name some of your "objectionable" books that should
be behind lock and key. Let's start with The Holy Bible.
electstat wrote:
It's not the public library's job to shape our childrens lives. It's
the library's "job" to provide books for everyone to read
- not just children. First and foremost it is the parents job. If they
can't do it, the child has more issues to worry about other than whether
or not there may be a book that is controversial. It is rediculous
to think that a child that looks at this book is going to "become" gay.
If that was the case, then opening the bible would make them Christian.
Burn the books, turn off the tv, and disconnect the Internet because
there are a lot of things that should be shaping our children other
than the media.
Colton wrote:
This young person is entitled to their opinion and the right to express
it. The IR violates it's own policy by publishing Reader Comments that
are thinly veiled personal attacks against the letter writer.
Shame on the adults that posted the hate speech directed towards one
of our community young people.
4061111 wrote:
EMATT, I guess you didn't pick up on the words "perhaps" and "compromise" in
my previous post.
Personally, I just would skip over these kinds of books (explicit
sexual books). Yet, sometimes a compromise helps both sides achieve
their goals. In this case of placing certain types of books under restricted
access or even a shelving section by the librarian desk (no, I did
not say lock & key - you did). I am not, nor will I, be one of
the people citing which books are objectionable. That would merely
be imposing my personal tastes onto others.
I also stand by my opinion that Mr. Cohen and Miss Chambers should
be commended, not attacked, for standing up for what they believe in.
Just as I am not attacking you, EMATT, for objecting to the Bible,
which I personally don't read, but think everyone should have the right
to read should they choose to do so.
dragonfly wrote:
While we are debating freedom of speech in regards to what is or is
not or what should or should not be in a library, thousands are homeless
due to Hurricane Ike and other storms. Unless someone has a suggestion
as to exactly whom should be in charge of all decisions regarding books,
TV stations and internet websites,
perhaps thinking about helping others in dire need might do more good.
Public library means it's for the public. Not just for readers of one
opinion.
We can teach our children well about our own values and not cross
the street when a person of another opinion walks by or wash our
hands
if served a cup of coffee by a person of another race (as used to
be the case in my grandmother's era). What do children learn from
us when
we preach unkindness toward another or fear of another way of thinking?
FISHING wrote:
Yes Man and Women You Go Girl!!!
Girl in the City wrote:
This board has become a "you say that because you believe..." and
an immature name calling bash. Well, I believe that some FACTS should
be pointed out. First, Ms. Chambers I commend you for speaking your
voice (a.k.a. freedom of speech). But I would like to inform you that
Mr. Cohen DOES NOT allow for women to preach or provide sermons. This
is directly from his website in Sara's biography. Also, to use the
Bible for a moment, there is a COMMANDMENT that states "honor
thy mother" and another one, "honor thy father". Sara
Schmidt, how is your relationship with your mother and father? Are
you honoring them? How?
I did not want to draw into the personal attacks of this comment section
by I also believe it was the Bible that stated there is one true judge
and that judge is God. Unless God himself has internet access and posts
comments I believe everyone here has forgotton that. Mr. Cohen would
like everyone who is in favor of keeping the book to repent our sins.
Well sir, you are of flesh yourself and with that must remember you
are of sin also.
Has anyone gone to library to actually view the book? I did. Before
I based my opinion, I wanted to see what was in the book. But guess
what, Mr. Cohen has had the book checked out for a month (he even had
it at the hearing). So, all of the parents who fear their children
seeing it, guess what, they won't because Mr. Cohen hasn't returned
it.
Most of all, your children are at the library looking for Magic Tree
House books or Harry Potter. If they do pick up "The Joy of Gay
Sex" you can thank Mr. Cohen for bringing it to their attention.
Also, if they pick up that book, your children already know what sex
is. Speak to them honestly and openly. DO NOT shame them!! Remember
none of us would be here without it!!
IF homosexuality is a sin, let the punishment be decided at the pearly
gates. Not on this message board, not at the public library, not at
school, or the media.
If you want to live your life by the Bible, hate the sin but love
the sinner, love thy neighbor, and better yet, turn it over to Him.
MTRICH wrote:
From what I see here, there must be allot of you who are working hard
to get the p0rn back on the other side of the counter at the local
gas station so your sons and daughters can examine them and decide
for themselves if they like them. Putting them out of reach is somehow
censorship if I believe so many post here. I can understand those who
are offended that only the "gay" s_x book is being discussed
but you should be careful your disagreement with discrimination against
homosexuals does not become a justification for providing po rn (gay
or straight) to your children. If these se_ually explicit books must
be in the library them put then away from minor children. Its not just
the right thing to doits the law. Just a note: when I tried to post
this the first time the website stopped me because my post contained
a word for dirty pictures or movies which rhymes with sworn. How interesting
that my post be censored in a post about censorship. Cool!
PaulCohen wrote:
Gun961960, if the natural outcome of filing a complaint about a book
is that one should be banned from the library, what privileges should
you be deprived of, on account of any criticisms you have made in your
life? Thankfully you are not in charge with your unequal and skewed
ideas of free speech and justice.
You falsely accuse Sierra of being intolerant. Many professing the
Name of Christ have visited people in prisons. Are they intolerant
of criminals? Once again, according to your skewed mind, they are.
A child who believes the Word of God is far wiser than a fool who
rejects the Laws of God, though he has lived much longer. PaulCohen wrote:
Al, how would drinking water with arsenic in it be detrimental if
you already know that arsenic is poison? PaulCohen wrote:
Electstat, when Sierra says that "The Joy of Gay Sex" is
unbiblical, what she goes on to explain is that the book blatantly
contradicts the Law of God, Who made sexual intercourse and gratification
for man and wife. She is not denying you or anyone else the freedom
to believe and do as you will within the confines of civil law,
which allows you to engage in homosexual acts in the privacy of
your home.
You obviously know very little about children or human nature.
You say that it is ridiculous to think that a child looking at
the book would become homosexual, any more than looking at the
Bible would make her Christian. It may not happen at once, but
create an environment permeated with garbage and what do you get?
People are far more prone to fall into what is harmful than to
take on what is not. Sugary, refined, chemicalized garbage foods,
drugs, pornography, and the list goes on. PaulCohen wrote:
Wildrose, according to your reasoning, not only can a person
make poor choices and suffer for them, but the library can make
poor choices, causing many to suffer for them. Why should the
rest of the public have to pay for the library’s poor choices?
Not all judgments are subjective. Sierra brings up the Law of
God. “You shall not murder” is not subjective. “You
shall not steal” is not subjective. We have courts of law
that say so, and common sense tells us the same. Just because
you do not believe the Law does not make It go away for you or
anyone else. Someone is still dead after a murder has been committed.
If this book meets the library’s guidelines, then those
guidelines are wrong and need to be changed. Since when has the
library organization or any other been infallible in making its
guidelines? At the present time some shareholders of financial
companies can tell you more about this, if you are interested
in learning the shortcomings of man’s oversight and stupidity
in regulations.
That is why people need the Law of God; many suffer greatly
because ignoring and disdaining It.
You say "The Joy of Gay Sex" has been reviewed several
times with a positive verdict, yet you go on to say you would
ban the Bible. Far more have reviewed the Bible and have declared,
not only as opinion, but with evidence of improved lives, that
the Bible has great merit. So why do you believe those who approve
of "The Joy of Gay Sex," but disbelieve those who
commend the Scriptures?
As for your assessment of the character of God as revealed in
the Bible, read God and
Violence,
which proves that those unflattering traits are your own, not
His.
PaulCohen wrote:
Ematt asks if "On the Origin of the Species" should
be removed because it can also leave an impression on young
minds. On the contrary, it would be good if young people read
Darwin’s words: “When we descend to details we
can prove that no one species has changed...nor can we prove
that supposed changes are beneficial, which is the groundwork
of the theory.” There is so much admitted conjecture
in his book that reading Darwin would be a great eye-opener
to children who are force-fed such a great pack of lies as
certainties by evolutionists.
No need to lock the Bible away. Obviously the Creator and
His holy Truth is already locked out of your mind. PaulCohen wrote:
Skosena, we should all be so impressed by your awesome Republican
party holiness and how you condescend to allow sinners (even
Democrats!) their freedoms. How noble of you! You are so
much kinder and more considerate than the One you presume
to worship, Who, on account of sin, wiped out the whole world
in the days of Noah, and then Sodom and Gomorrah in the days
of Lot. Obviously He made a mistake killing all those heathens!
But now we have tolerant you and your mushy stand-for-nothing “Jesus” in
charge. Your “Christ” says the world is reserved
for a love-fest of “anything goes in the day of nonjudgment,” but
the real and true Lord Jesus Christ of Scripture says that
the world is reserved for fire in this Day of Judgment. Here
it is on your doorstep and down comes the house of cards
built on sand. PaulCohen wrote:
Dragonfly, you are right that each of us has the responsibility
of teaching those in our immediate sphere of influence.
I am not worried about my own, as you might think. I have
nothing to fear. Neither am I afraid of "The Joy
of Gay Sex" remaining in the library. If you cannot
tell the difference between destructive and constructive
behaviors, or unkindness and the love of Truth and God,
however, I fear for you. PaulCohen wrote:
Smokeybear, many hard situations that this country faces
at present come from the fact that people are living wicked,
selfish lives, contrary to what is good and right in the
sight of God, which is profitable for man.
As Jesus said to those of His day, do not think those of
Galveston are any greater sinners than you. If you don’t
repent, you will likewise suffer and perish. A people reap
as they have sown.
You ask, "Why aren't you trying
to ban ‘The
Joy of Sex’? Is it okay for teenage pregnancies because
it is straight sex? Is it okay for kids to do whatever
they want as long as it is straight sex?" Of course
not. Fornication should not be taught or suggested by library
materials. If parents want to teach their children to have
sex, that is their responsibility; it is not for the library
to assume that all parents buy into spreading promiscuity,
heartache, and disease.
As for the homosexual community not protesting "The
Joy of Sex," why would they? The motto of "The
Joy of Gay Sex" is, "If it feels good, do it." There
are heterosexuals against explicit sex manuals of any kind
in the library, but I have yet to see a homosexual speak
against "The Joy of Gay Sex." This is manifest
proof that they, and their boosters, are given over to
kowtowing to the lowest common denominator of human behavior.
No wonder there are so many tragic things happening with
more coming down the pike! PaulCohen wrote:
Girl in the City, let us see who is immature and speaking
out of ignorance. You say that I do not allow women to
preach, as though I disagree with Ms. Chambers’ letter.
I most certainly do not; I commend her letter. Any person,
man, woman, or child, is not only allowed, but is encouraged
to speak the Truth. What the Word of God disallows is putting
women in positions of spiritual authority over men (1 Timothy
2:12).
You ask Sara if she is honoring her mother and father.
When Jesus’ mother came to try to dissuade Him from
His ministry, He would not receive her but said, “Whoever
does the will of My Father in Heaven, that one is My brother
and sister and mother” (Matthew 12:50 LITV). That
is how Sara is honoring her parents. How about you? Are
you doing the will of God, “Girl”? I happen
to know you are not because you are a liar. You committed
a personal attack on Sara while claiming you don’t
want to draw others into such. You do not honor God or
your parents. It is all one.
What makes you think that God can no longer speak through
His servants? You quote the Bible, yet obviously you do
not believe It. The same God Who inspired those who wrote
the Bible is answering you right now through me. You say
that I am “of sin.” I do not deny the material
or where I came from, but if Jesus Christ has declared
me as His property, bought and paid for, cleansed and renewed
in His image by the power of His endless life and sent
by Him to speak on His behalf, who are you to oppose it?
Contrary to your proclamation of abstaining from personal
attacks, you accuse me with innuendo and evil surmisings.
I brought the book to the hearing so those who were forming
opinions on the matter while ignorant of its contents could
see it if they chose. Why don’t you get the facts
before you attack? Because you do not care about the truth
or other people, as you pretend.
You say that people should not shame their children about
sex, as if that attitude came from me by protesting the
library’s inclusion of "The Joy of Gay Sex" in
its collection. “Remember”, you say, “none
of us would be here without it!!” My point is that
none of us would be here with it, homosexual
sex that is, which is the topic of discussion. You bring
in heterosexual
sex to attack me, as if I am the "sex phobe" that "The
Joy of Gay Sex" says I must be, because I believe
the Word of God. How stupid an accusation! Those who believe
the Creator Who made sex are automatically labeled sexually
repressed! But liars go for lies because they follow the
prince of this world, who is the father of lies.
As for the hereafter, all sin is
amply punished in this life, guaranteed. The rewards and
punishments commensurate
with every act are built into the act. That is the immutable
Law of God. As for the platitude, "Hate the sin but
love the sinner," it is but another false accusation
you level at me by calling my speaking the truth to my
Helena neighbors "hatred." It is true that
the children of this world hate correction, but the children
of God receive of His hand:
"My son, despise not the chastening of the Lord,
nor faint when you are rebuked by Him; for whom the Lord
loves He
chastens, and He scourges every son whom He receives"
(Hebrews 12:5-6 MKJV).
ematt wrote:
Paul,
There you go again. I have not come against you, however
you continue to judge me and bear false witness. How are
you the one to know where my heart lies? I was merely making
a comparative suggestion. Please quit throwing stones at
the community.
mtjewel wrote: I don't approve of the book either....however... it should
not be removed or you would have to remove about 3/4
of the libraries books since they are probably all objectional
to one person or another. If you are worried about what
your kids are looking at, I suggest that you accompany
them to the library . Then you can monitor what kind
of
literature they are reading.
skosena wrote:
I am actually at a loss for words. That does not happen
often. I usually have a snappy comeback. But this morning
I am speechless and quite disturbed.
I visited Mr Cohen's website.....there are a handful of "followers" in
his "path of truth church" (it is not really
a church...2 of the handful live here and the rest are
in canada...and all belong to the same family.....I call
it a church because the website rails against the evil
of a church and I know it will get Mr Cohens goat....I
guess I am evil) Anyway...this little group of followers
think that they are the only "right" ones and
the rest of us that "claim" to be Christians
are wrong..and don't follow the "true" Christ.
There are a lot of long dissertations on a various subjects...they
are long and rambling...which is not shocking to any of
us since we have seen many examples of the same here online.
They even have a written area that is about cults....irony
at its finest...I believe they are trying to convince people
that they are not a cult....
It has been an interesting conversation....I appreciate
all of your comments and ideas...but I will not feed Mr
Cohen's delusions of greatness anymore..I am sure he is
getting lots of strokes from his little "flock" and
his leader.....besides...there is an election to discuss
and econmic crisis......and all kinds of discussions...
besides I would rather talk to purple than mr cohen...
gun961960 wrote:
Dear LORD....I am with you skosena...speechless! Mr. Cohen
sir you frighten me more than any TV show, book, or anything
I have seen on the internet. You put the sourest of tastes
in my mouth when it comes to the idea of religion. How
presumptios of you to speak on behalf of God, as though
you were his chosen one? Sir I feel sorry for you should
there be a day when you face him, he will be very disappointed
in you for how you have portrayed him. In my opinion, you
are no different than the radical Muslim extremists or
any religious extremist...you see they all do distastefull
and sometimes deadly things in the name of their God...it
is a dangerous path. You are, in my opinion, a very mean
spirited, hatefilled man who has way too much time on his
hands. Scary!!!
gfguy wrote on Sep 22, 2008 4:42 PM:
Paul, all of us here will take up a collection so we can
buy you your very own copy of The Joy of Gay Sex. That
way you can return the copy you kept for over a month from
the public library.
I checked out your website as well, and all the ranting
and holier than thou rhetoric leads me to the conclusion
that you and your cult are in desperate need of a hug.
Your friends at the Landover Baptist Church are awaiting
your membership card information.
Who honestly spends the extraordinary amount of time,
which you and the EIGHT (that's right, EIGHT) other folks
obviously have, trying to poke holes in little morality
tales?
All hail Victor...blah, blah, blah.
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