We received this note in response to Paul’s request to remove
The Joy of Gay Sex from the Lewis & Clark Library’s shelves
(see Notice Board – September 2008):
I am curious. How is it you can call yourself a Christian, yet you
judge others for their life choices? You prey on the weak of spirit,
and pull them into your skewed teachings? God’s love is unconditional,
and he is the ONE TRUE JUDGE. Each person living and breathing on this
planet is a sinner, we sin every day of our life. I sin. I believe
in God, and I believe that if I confess my sins to God, he will forgive
me all my sins. His son, Jesus Christ, was sent from Heaven, to teach
His ways, and to die for our sins, so we would not have to suffer as
He (Jesus) suffered. I would like to know how and where in the book
The Joy of Gay Sex, does it censor God? Where does it teach a person
to commit incest or beastiality? You state ‘God says it is a
sin to falsely accuse your neighbor.’ Don’t you accuse
Jessica Fitzpatrick of providing pornography to children? You do not
say it outright, but you imply it. I would say that is an accusation
against a neighbor on this earth, in this town. You also say, ‘Why
should people support an agenda that leads to destruction?’ In
your response to Wendy Wheeler, you ask, ‘Are you ready to let
rapists and robbers violate you and your home?’ Are you implying
homosexuals are rapists and robbers? Do they seek out the weak, the
vulnerable, to violate? There you go again, falsely accusing your neighbor.
I would like to be able to answer some of these questions myself, regarding
the book and your animosity, yet I am not able to look at the book,
as you continue to have this book you despise? Why is that?
Brad.
Paul’s reply:
Brad,
The Joy of Gay Sex censors God by banning and condemning His words.
It does this in many ways. The very title of the book denies God’s
injunction against sodomy:
“And you shall not lie with a male as one lies with a woman;
it is a perversion” (Leviticus 18:22 LITV).
From there, God’s indisputable injunctions, as outlined in the
Ten Commandments, against adultery, bearing false witness, and dishonoring
of parents, to name but a few, are all flatly contradicted by this
presumptuous and vile book. Such authors and books have come and gone
over the millennia, while the Bible remains the First and Prime Book
of all human history.
A practical example of the effect of The Joy of Gay Sex would be if
you worked in a factory where the owner gave his managers certain guidelines
to maintain amongst the workers under their supervision, and one manager
taught his team to do things in a way that directly contradicted the
rules of his boss, many of which were for their safety. This manager
would be acting as a censor of his boss.
You ask specifically where the book condones incest and bestiality.
On page 58 there is an entry on “Daddy/Son Fantasies,” which
goes on to describe how to enact such perversions. On page 250 there
is another entry on “Sex with Animals,” in which the authors
state: “Moralists condemn sex with animals
as disgusting, immoral, and generally horrible.... We disagree with
the moralists.”
For those who question why I have the book, my answer is that I want
to know what I am talking about when I criticize it, along with its
proponents, unlike you with your insinuation that I have an unsavory
or hypocritical motive, along with other unfounded accusations that
prove you don’t know what you are talking about.
For example, you ask: “Don’t you accuse Jessica Fitzpatrick
of providing pornography to children?” No, she is the one who
suggested this book is necessary for sex education for children. I
only said that if she wants such a book for her daughter, she should
buy it herself. What is wrong with that?
You also write:
“In your response to Wendy Wheeler, you
ask, ‘Are you
ready to let rapists and robbers violate you and your home?’ Are
you implying homosexuals are rapists and robbers?”
Wendy said that the content of books is not important. I said that,
on the contrary, content is the issue. The point is there are boundaries
for public literature. Would she approve of a book that advocated rape
and robbery, for example? I said and implied nothing there about homosexuals,
but it is interesting that you would see it that way. In a way you
are right because, according to the Bible, if you commit one sin, you
are guilty of them all:
“For whoever shall keep the whole Law and yet offend in one
point, he is guilty of all” (James 2:10 MKJV).
You know nothing of what is in the Bible, Brad. Where are you getting
your ideas about God, and who is teaching you the lies you write in
your letter? If from teachers, they are also wholly ignorant with you.
It could be you are simply grasping at phantom thoughts out of thin
air, which thoughts are from demons and which have no sure foundation
whatsoever. The Bible clearly differentiates between right and wrong,
and truth and error. Know this: Truth brings life, healing, and victory,
while lies and error lead to destruction, as sure as the sun rises
and sets each day.
While God is love (not the love you are describing), He does not love
everyone unconditionally. Here is what Jesus says against that idea:
“He who has My Commandments and keeps them, he it is who loves
Me. And he who loves Me shall be loved by My Father, and I will love
him and will reveal Myself to him” (John 14:21 MKJV).
You miss the vital element of confession of sin, and that is repentance:
“He that covers his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesses
and forsakes them shall have mercy” (Proverbs 28:13 KJV).
Without obedience, your confession is without fruit. The Lord expects
fruit:
“Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away” (John
15:2 MKJV).
If you profess the Name of the Lord and Savior, then it is up to you
to avail yourself of His power to walk in what He commands and what
is right in His sight. Otherwise you are taking His Name in vain, thus
breaking the Third Commandment, for which the penalty is death. For
the breaking of that Commandment, God says, He will not hold you guiltless.
You are held to the Standard to which you give lip service, and you
are judged more severely than those who make no profession.
The Lord died to deliver us from hell, but He did not die so that
you could do as you please and escape responsibility for what you do.
You had better believe you will be judged for the things you do:
“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ,
that each one may receive the things done in the body, in accordance
with the things which he did, whether good or bad” (2 Corinthians
5:10 EMTV).
Only those who deny themselves and identify and suffer with Him will
reign with Him:
“It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with Him, we shall
also live with Him: If we suffer, we shall also reign with Him: if
we deny Him, He also will deny us” (2 Timothy 2:11-12 KJV).
Yes, He will deny you if you deny Him. How do you deny Him? By denying
His Commandments and opposing those who teach Them.
You ask how it is that I call myself a Christian and teach the Word
of God that comes against sin. That is the true definition of a Christian:
“And have no partnership with the unfruitful works of darkness,
but rather expose them. For it is shameful even to speak of those things
being done by them in secret” (Ephesians 5:11-12 EMTV).
You have a false definition for what it means to be a Christian, directly
opposed to the true one. You speak of a false Christ. There is much
teaching on our site that illuminates the contrast between the true
Lord and Christ and those in error. You need to repent of your sins,
Brad, and not just confess them. Then if you read our site and seek
the Lord He will be found of you.
What are the sins you are confessing every day? Are you engaging in
homosexuality? Why should you remain in, and be destroyed by, your
sins? It is the proud of spirit and defiant who resist the Holy Spirit.
God opposes such. That is why you perceive me as you do:
“For we are the fragrance of Christ to God among those being
saved, and among those perishing. To some we are the fragrance of death
leading to death, but to others the fragrance of life leading to life” (2
Corinthians 2:15-16 EMTV).
No, Brad, you are rejecting the one element you need most, which is
righteous judgment. That is a hallmark of the life of the saints of
God, as attested to in Holy Scripture:
“LORD, who shall abide in Your tabernacle? Who shall dwell in
Your holy hill? He that walks uprightly, and works righteousness, and
speaks the truth in his heart. He that backbites not with his tongue,
nor does evil to his neighbor, nor takes up a reproach against his
neighbor. In whose eyes a vile person is contemned; but he
honors them that fear the LORD. He that swears to his own hurt, and changes not.
He that does not put his money to usury, or takes reward against the
innocent. He that does these things shall never be moved” (Psalms
15:1-5).
Paul Cohen
Brad’s reply:
Paul,
I was shocked and hurt when you said I do not know the Bible. You
also said the people who taught me the Bible are wholly ignorant. I
do not know the Bible as you do, and I do not take the words from the
Bible and twist them to support my thoughts and urge others to question
their faith. Are you familiar with Marva Dawn? She is one of my teachers.
She and I have talked at great length about the Bible and my faith.
You say God is love and not the love I am describing. I know God’s
love. Agape. My church has taught me from the time I was a small
child that God’s love IS unconditional, and I will not allow
an extremist like you to break my faith and understanding of my one
true God, and his love for his children. Jesus loves me, this I know.
For the Bible tells me so. Little ones, to Him belong. They are weak,
but he is strong.
Paul, I plan on speaking with my pastor who has taught me the things
I know about God, Jesus and the Bible. I will ask for his guidance,
but I will not read from your website, which I feel is filled with
hatred and twists the word of God.
I had spent a long time tonight, writing an email to respond to your
personal attacks on me and my faith. I will not let myself and my
faith and love of God be questioned by you. God’s love is unconditional,
and he even loves you.
Brad
Paul’s reply:
Brad,
Where have we twisted God’s Words? Show us. You accuse us of
something very serious, but you do not give one single example to prove
what you charge. We have given you proofs of what we teach, and you
have not shown these to be wrong (how can you deny the Word of God?).
You need to know that God expects you to back your accusations with
evidence. Even a judge in Helena would require some proof if you were
to claim that we stole from you or harmed you in some way. Otherwise,
your case has no merit, and no judge on earth or in Heaven will pay
attention to you. In fact, God in Heaven will hold you accountable
for sinning against your neighbor and Him, because you bear false witness.
You say that God even loves us. How does God show His love? By accusing
us of things we don’t know or see and therefore cannot repent
of them? The Bible says that Satan is the one doing that, calling him “the
accuser of the brethren.” You have God and Satan mixed up.
If you knew God, you would not be shocked and hurt when I told you
that you do not know the Bible. That is just more evidence that your
faith is not in God, but is in religion, the Bible as you have been
falsely taught it by men, false teachers, and, essentially, yourself.
Yours is a manufactured faith, and not the faith of Jesus Christ. We
can destroy your faith because it is a man-made one, but nothing can
touch the faith of Christ.
Your faith must be destroyed, and, even now, it is in the process
of being burnt up by the Word of Truth that God has sent us to speak
to you. When the false is gone, then the True may come.
Marva Dawn is one of the multitudes of false teachers of false Christianity,
having the same kind of faith you do, which does not stand in this
day of fire and judgment. She has filled your head with religious rubbish,
which has nothing whatsoever to do with the Lord Jesus Christ. She
has never known Him. Her fruit proves it. We will make certain that
she hears about it.
As for your pastor, let him explain himself against what we teach
after reading these:
Your reply proves you are in fear and error, running away from the
Truth Who has confronted you. You are strong in sin, though weak in
power against the Light. You cannot hide in darkness from God, and
He will not be impressed or convinced by your sincere words or works.
He holds you accountable for what you have heard and have said to us.
Paul
Brad’s reply:
My pastor, Marva and I will pray for you and hope that you will soon
learn the true love of God, and may you one day be able to spread His
love and care to others, not the hatred and falsehoods you teach now.
This is the last communication I will send to you, and I ask that
you not contact me with your hatred or personal attacks.
Brad.
Take time to laugh; It’s the music of the soul.
Paul’s reply:
Brad, who is your pastor? We would like to be in touch with him so
we can hear what he has to say.
Paul
Brad’s response:
Please stop. If I hear from you again, I will report you for harassment.
Brad.
Click HERE to go back to our correspondence with Marva Dawn.