Angry Kleinsasser A
We received this note from Paul Kleinsasser in April 2011, in response
to To Hutterites Everywhere:
why would you write such lies about hutterites, i myself am one.
we are a group of
christians trying very hard to walk & work & Live
for the Lord. how can you write such statements.
today in church it talked about false teachings i believe you are one
of them, i strongly advise you to research hutterites again.
you got wrong infomation
some where, i,m 40 yrs old & i have 6 children & i
have christ as my personal saviour, Jesus died for everyone for you & me.
and christ will punish you for having such statement about us hutterites,
i,m liked schocked what i have read here.
Victor’s reply:
Hi Paul,
Thank you for taking the time and trouble to write us about your concerns.
Have you red my testimony? I hope that by reading it, you will be able
to discern that the last thing I want is to lie about anybody, or speak
error about them, even unintentionally. Let it be the truth and nothing
but the truth.
Please, Paul, I ask you to take more time now and show me specifically
where we speak falsehood about Hutterites. Give me the precise quotes,
in context, and show me clearly how I am wrong.
Should you prove me wrong, I will not only withdraw those erroneous
statements, I will publicly confess to everyone how I was wrong and apologize
on our site to you and all Hutterites who have been wrongly affected
by my words.
Is that fair enough? Could you ask anything more than that of me?
Looking to hear from you soon. I don’t want error anywhere on
our site. Let’s deal with it as soon as possible.
Victor Hafichuk
Paul K. replied:
I will get back to you. A week and a half later, he wrote again:
Mr victor all I can say I,m glad you are not the judge on that final
day. All you have to say here about other people is condem, condem..
did,nt you knoe jesus died for all mankind. There are lots of different
walks in life. If your conscience can leave all the issues you have with
our faith than so be it.
& yes we know
that the hutterite name will not get u into heaven , only if you know
Christ you will enter. Jesus said I am the way. and
we believe in that. Hutterite is just a name for our group or lifestyle.
And about the black clothing u have an issue with, that also has nothing
to do with getting into heaven. If you were ripped off by an hutterite
do u honestly think they are all the same? if there is a Thief in Lethbridge
where u live ? are you a Thief too? No I don,nt think so. And yes we
have unfaithful member in our church group like any other. So please
don,nt judge us all the same.
And for the school & hospital system you have issues also. Why would,nt
we go to see doctors & use the school system, do you know how many
taxes we pay for that ?
and you have issues
about our farm size & etc, there are one family
farm sizes next door to most of use whats your problem there. I will
not condem your walk in life please respect us & others.
All I can say God
reads hearts & he will Judge. So you make this
judgement call if you want the whole world to read your so called Blogs
on our faith. And remember Hutterite is only a name! we do not worship
that name! we worship Jesus Christ our Lord & Saviour.
Paul Cohen responded:
Hi Paul, I work with Victor on The Path of Truth.
Actually, according to the Scriptures, you are quite wrong. Victor is your judge on that final day, which is here for you now. And all we have
to say isn’t “condemn, condemn,” but “truth,
truth.” The truth we speak is your judge.
You don’t like the truth. In fact, you hate it. But you can’t
ever get rid of the truth once it has been spoken to you. It stands forever
as a witness against the lies you tell yourself and others. And by choosing
those lies, you have chosen to condemn yourself in the darkness from
which lies come:
John 3:17-19 MKJV
(17) For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world,
but so that the world might be saved through Him.
(18) He who believes on Him is not condemned, but he who does not believe
is condemned already, because he has not believed in the Name of the
only-begotten Son of God.
(19) And this is the condemnation, that the Light has come into the world,
and men loved darkness rather than the Light, because their deeds were
evil.
So God is here, Paul, reading your heart, and has found it wanting in
His sight. You are exposed before Him as a liar. You don’t know
Jesus Christ or worship Him as Lord. You serve a false Jesus and believe
another gospel:
“For if, indeed, the one coming proclaims another Jesus, whom
we have not proclaimed, or if you receive another spirit, which you did
not receive, or another gospel, which you never accepted, you might well
endure these” (2 Corinthians 11:4 MKJV).
Even if Jacob Huter worshipped the Lord as did Paul the apostle, those
he taught soon forsook the true Gospel (as soon as they began calling
themselves by Jacob’s name). And why should you be surprised that
such apostasy takes place?
“I marvel that you so soon are being moved away from Him Who called
you into the grace of Christ, to another gospel” (Galatians 1:6
MKJV).
Your reply is a desperate and lame attempt to come up with any excuse
or explanation you can think of to justify yourself in your sins and
darkened ways. Your arguments have no substance whatsoever (unlike what
is written in the paper you responded to). We have done business with
several Hutterite colonies, some for many years, and have good relations.
No outstanding issues or bitterness here - only the truth, which we have
spoken for the benefit of all, and which you haven’t begun to answer.
The problem for you, however, isn’t the Hutterites’ manmade
system of worship. The problem is you. You are the one standing in the
place of Satan, walking in his antiChrist ways and accusing Christ’s
brethren when they shine the light on you. You are the one who needs
to repent of his sins, and you know what some of those are, don’t
you?
Paul, if you truly worshipped the Lord Jesus Christ in spirit and in
truth, and not in lip service only, you wouldn’t do the things
you do and say the things you say. You would hear what we have to say,
and you would be in agreement because you love the truth. We are sent
by Him to tell you the way things are, not to condemn, but to save. Your
problem is that you prefer lies to the truth, your life to His, and therefore
you can’t hear Him at all.
Paul Cohen
Other Responses to “To Hutterites Everywhere”:
- Josh Gross wrote: Ur
a fucking freak man the devil will take u
Paul's reply: How could that happen, Josh, when
Jesus Christ has delivered us from the Devil into God’s hand?
Not only that, but we now rule with Christ, and take Satan’s
unlawful possessions away from him. Does that threaten you? [END...
More responses below]
A few months after Paul Kleinsasser wrote us, Tim Kleinsasser, from
another Hutterite colony, phoned us, quite worked up. Here is the summary
of that call plus two follow-ups, where we try to reason with Tim.
The mirror of truth is held up to Ben Gross and the mysterious “Mr.
Smith.”
Click HERE to go back to “To
Hutterites Everywhere.”
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