Buddhism Examined from a Godly and
Recently the subject of Buddhism came to my attention.
Therefore, when we visited the library recently, a video caught my eye,
and I decided to see it. It was called God and Buddha: A Dialogue,
featuring Robert Thurman and Deepak Chopra. I had heard of Deepak so often
I wanted to know more of him. I had heard that he had become a Christian,
or that his beliefs were in harmony with Christianity.
You will note the
title of this paper specifying a true Christian perspective. It both amazes
and disturbs me as to what will pass nowadays
as being Christian or in agreement with Christ. There are many false
notions about true Biblical Christianity, and today I would like to go
on record declaring that neither Buddhism nor Deepak Chopra have anything
to do with Christ. They are both, in teaching and philosophy,
quite contrary to Him, to His teachings, and to the witness of the Holy
Those who profess to be Christian yet believe that Buddhism and
various religions are viable options are clearly not Christian in reality.
A Christian, by Biblical definition, is someone in whom dwells the Spirit
of God, someone who personally knows the Lord Jesus Christ, someone who
has no doubt about the veracity and holy inspiration of the Scriptures,
the power of them.
What do the Scriptures say (referring to none other
than the Lord Jesus Christ)?:
"And there is salvation in no other One; for there is
no other name under Heaven given among men by which we must be saved"
(Acts 4:12 MKJV).
What did Jesus Himself say?:
"Jesus said to him, I am the Way, the Truth,
and the Life; no one comes to the
Father but by Me" (John 14:6 MKJV).
Either Jesus Christ is the One and Only Way to God or He
is not. If He is, then all other ways lead astray to darkness
because in Him and Him only is life. Here is what a great prophet
in Scripture had to say at a time when the name of Baal was well known
the worship of Baal popular:
"And Elijah came unto all the people, and
said, How long will you halt between two opinions? If the LORD be God,
follow Him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people
him not a word"
(1 Kings 18:21).
So I say to those who profess faith in
the Lord Jesus Christ, concerning all the major religions
I will now discuss this subject in relation
to the tape I viewed. To begin with, the title of
was silly. There
is no dialogue between God and Buddha, real or perceived. To suggest
the notion is quite ignorant and arrogant. I say it
Thurman introduces the meeting in a joking way to say
there is this dialogue on the agenda.
consists of Thurman and Chopra discussing Buddhism and Vedanta,
a Hindu philosophy, and how they are so similar and in harmony.
This plainly has nothing
to do with the God of the Holy Scriptures.
began by saying, “The
essence of Buddhism is the alleviation of suffering.” He
said that Buddha was interested in only two questions:
1) The cause of human suffering
2) The way out of that suffering
he said, is the essence of Buddhism. Now, seeing that
we all hate to suffer, and we hate to see certain
those we love most, this is quite an appealing philosophy. We
can also surmise how such a philosophy could possibly
with Christ and the
Did Christ not come to save us? Did He not come
to deliver us from destruction - suffering
in all its
forms? Yes, of course.
Therefore it might seem logical to assume that Buddhism
is quite honorable, in agreement with Christianity (at
least to those “enlightened”).
However, there is nothing further from the truth if we are speaking
of God’s truth and not man’s.
Jesus Christ and Buddha on a par. Let me inform readers
of a distinct difference: Buddha sought
of suffering and find the way out. Many adherents
of Buddhism try various disciplines within Buddhism, to find that
are promised the way
out of suffering if only they will commit themselves to this or that
discipline or disciplines.
But Jesus Christ came to suffer! Yes,
He came to suffer, and He did so. He suffered many things
in His lifetime
and finally He suffered cruel death on a Roman cross, at the hands
of His own people, as a criminal, liar, blasphemer, and charlatan.
He was not any of these things, but was accused so. And
He did it all for
Now of Jesus Christ, the Scriptures declare:
"Though being a Son,
yet He learned obedience by the things which He suffered" (Hebrews
He learned obedience by the things He suffered.
The Scriptures also declare that all those who will follow
Him must take up the cross,
deny self, and follow Him, to the death if necessary, which it will
be. Jesus promised them suffering, persecution, and
those things we hate.
Buddha takes the opposite
direction and leads us to avoid or alleviate suffering. I know that
in following the
Lord, I have had to suffer. I
see that there is no other way but by the cross, which represents
suffering and death. The Bible also teaches that if
we do not take up the cross,
we are not worthy of being His disciples, and we will
not find life. Truly, as the Scriptures testify:
"Yea, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus
will be persecuted" (2 Timothy 3:12 MKJV).
That is, they will suffer. Suffering was the order
of the day for our Savior, and it is the order for
those who believe Him and do His will.
We now speak not of the suffering for our sins, but for our identification
with the Lord Himself in a world where all men hate Him. How Buddhism
agrees with this, I fail to see.
Chopra says there are,
according to Vedanta, five kleshas (Sanskrit for “causes”)
of suffering. They are:
1) Not knowing the true nature of reality
2) Clinging to, grasping,
holding to, that which is ephemeral, transitory, illusory,
and therefore, not
3) Aversion to, revulsion of, fear
of, that which is not real
4) Identification with a habitual,
false, constricted self or ego
5) Fear of death.
Chopra says Vedanta and Buddhism
it! If there are any forms of suffering, they come under
one of these categories.”
He goes on to say that
there are four ways to freedom from suffering:
1) Karma Yoga – reminding yourself that
whatever you do, you aren’t doing it, God is.
2) Love – which Chopra says is the
easiest and most enjoyable way.
3) Rajah Yoga – meditation
and allied disciplines; searching within, digging into the
of our selves.
4) Jnana Yoga – an intellectual
the intellect,” Chopra says, “to go beyond
the intellect.” (Yes,
you read that right!)
Now the main problem with Buddhism
and Vedanta is the notion that man can save himself by
chosen methods. There
is not a hint of any inability whatsoever to save one’s
self. There is no mention of a Divine Savior or even of
a human one (of which, in reality,
there is none). Quite the contrary.
Even Buddha is not
represented to be a savior, and it is not on record that
he ever claimed
to be a savior.
He simply presumes to show the way to Nirvana, to enlightenment,
to a oneness with all of creation and beyond. It is declared
that if we but
pursue, in our own strength and understanding and will,
one or more of these four ways, we will come to freedom
from suffering; we will conquer
ourselves and discover our “true selves.”
a contradiction with Biblical teaching! The Bible teaches
that no man is good, that we are in
a helpless, fallen state, that Jesus Christ died on the
cross for our redemption, being the perfect sacrifice for
and was raised from the dead,
to live forevermore, and that He is our only hope. We are
given the gift of faith to repent and turn to God through Jesus
Christ. Believing and obeying,
we are saved, if we overcome unto the end by His
grace and mercy, all glory to God.
Buddhism teaches that we can achieve
the bliss of freedom from pain and suffering ourselves, that
it is up to us. As I listened
and Chopra, I realized that their “deep thinking” and
intellectualism left no hope for simple people, for children,
for anyone but the “intelligent.”
Most uneducated and even average persons would not be
able to grasp the concepts these men were so proud of possessing.
I can’t claim to do so. And many people who had
the intellect would not have the time to devote to these
disciplines. That is why we find proverbial
gurus sitting on mountaintops or in deserts,
their entire time and energies consumed with attaining
unto enlightenment, which, of course, they never accomplish
I viewed the audience
and heard the questions they asked. Some were trying
to be so intelligent and perceptive, so wise and educated,
using big words, being so pretentious.
Others were asking questions, not knowing the issues,
Dear reader, here is what the Scriptures have
to say about all this:
"At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank
You, O Father, Lord of Heaven and earth, because You have hidden
things from the sophisticated and cunning, and revealed
them to babes. Even so, Father, for so it seemed good
in Your sight" (Matthew 11:25-26 MKJV).
does God have to say about man’s wisdom
and power? Here is what beloved brother Paul
had to say to the Corinthians:
1 Corinthians 1:18-31 MKJV
(18) For the preaching of the cross is foolishness to those being lost,
but to us being saved, it is the power of God.
(19) For it is written, "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise,
and I will set aside the understanding of the perceiving ones."
(20) Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the lawyer of this
world? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
(21) For since, in the wisdom of God, the world by wisdom did not know
God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save those who
(22) For the Jews ask for a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom;
(23) but we preach Christ crucified, to the Jews a stumbling block, and
to the Greeks foolishness.
(24) But to them, the called-out ones, both Jews and Greeks, Christ is
the power of God and the wisdom of God.
(25) Because the foolish thing of God is wiser than men, and the weak
thing of God is stronger than men.
(26) For you see your calling, brothers, that not many wise men according
to the flesh are called, not many mighty, not many noble.
(27) But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the
wise; and God has chosen the weak things of the world to confound the
things which are mighty;
(28) and God has chosen the base things of the world, and things which
are despised, and things which are not, in order to bring to nothing
things that are;
(29) so that no flesh should glory in His presence.
(30) But of Him you are in Christ Jesus, Who of God is made to us wisdom
and righteousness and sanctification and redemption;
(31) so that, according as it is written, "He who glories, let him
glory in the Lord."
The apostle Paul was also highly trained and educated before
his conversion to Christ. And what did he think of that?
Philippians 3:3-11 MKJV
(3) For we are the circumcision who worship God in the
spirit and rejoice in Christ Jesus and have no confidence
in the flesh;
(4) though I might also have confidence in the flesh.
If any other thinks that he has reason to trust in the
(5) I was circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of
Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of the Hebrews.
the Law, I was a Pharisee;
(6) concerning zeal, persecuting the church; regarding
the righteousness in the Law, blameless.
(7) But whatever things were gain to me, those I counted
loss for Christ.
(8) But no, rather, I also count all things to be loss
for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my
Lord, for whose sake I have suffered the loss of all
things, and count them to be dung, so that I may win
(9) and be found in Him; not having my own righteousness,
which is of the Law, but through the faith of Christ,
the righteousness of God by faith,
(10) that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection
and the fellowship of His sufferings, being made conformable
to His death;
(11) if by any means I might attain to the resurrection
of the dead.
By revelation and experience of God, he knew where
it was at. And he was not afraid or ashamed
to speak out of his
As he wrote to the Romans:
Romans 1:16-17 MKJV
(16) For I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ, for it is the power
of God unto salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and
also to the Greek.
(17) For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith,
as it is written, "The just shall live by faith."
Yes, by faith
do the just live, not by wisdom or by intellectual acrobatics or by
disciplines, either from the East or
Deepak, in your wisdom, you are far from God
far from the reality you presume to have.
that I do
you; I merely serve
you notice that you are taking a false path.
course, there are some truths in these philosophies. That is why so
many can be deceived,
though they are somewhat familiar
teaching. Did not Jesus say that the very
elect would be tried by falsehood? They are
Let us now take a closer look at
the supposed five causes of suffering:
1) Not knowing
the true nature of reality
That is true of everyone
who has not been redeemed
or regenerated. Jesus
Christ said, “I am
the Way, the Truth, and the
Life; no man comes unto
the Father but by Me.” This
is reality; He is the Reality.
Without knowing Him, how
can we know reality?
Solomon wrote: “The fear of God is
the beginning of knowledge, but fools
despise wisdom and instruction” (Proverbs
John wrote: “The Father loves
the Son and has given all things into
His hand. He who believes on the
Son has everlasting life, and he who
does not believe the Son shall not see
life, but the wrath of God abides
upon him” (John 3:35-36).
who can know reality without knowing or
having the Lord Jesus
2) Clinging to, grasping, holding to,
that which is ephemeral, transitory,
illusory, insubstantial, and therefore, not
Jesus said that we cannot
serve God and mammon (Matthew 6:24).
warns us not to
to, or pursue, the riches of
this world. The things of this world
will indeed perish. Neither can we take
we leave this world. Solomon wrote that
we ought not to set our hearts on riches,
It is true that the things of this world are not true riches, but these
things are very real. If not, God would not have
whom He chose - Solomon,
Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Job, and many
God is not so silly and devious that He
would give unreal things as a blessing
to those He
indeed real, but
and Vedanta teach
that they are not, it seems.
of Buddhism are full of contradiction.
They use and value unreal things as though they
are real, yet say they are not real. How can
it be otherwise when they oppose the Truth,
which is Jesus
Of course, they
would deny they opposed
Him, but they do, as
I am showing you.
They also see Jesus
Christ as an “enlightened one,” among
several others, but they do not know Him as God. That
is where they greatly err, as do not only
Buddhists, but also Muslims, and
Witnesses and Mormons ("Latter Day Saints")
who presume to be Christian, thinking they have the true understanding
of the Bible and its testimony. It
is not enough to believe Jesus Christ
was a good man or that He set
example. He IS God
and Lord of lords.
It is not enough to believe He
was a prophet, as were so many others. He is
the Sender of all true prophets.
He is their
Speech. Only God can
deliver us, and Jesus Christ is God. (Read our section
Jesus Christ Is God.)
3) Aversion to, revulsion of, fear of, that which is
Men are very real. They can be and
are feared by all, one way or another.
we ought not to
fear them, but God. I
see Deepak and Thurman fearing man, not God. They are impressed with
Buddha and so-called
This is respect, or "positive" fear
of man, contrary to God and His will.
If the fear of God is
of knowledge, as the Bible declares,
these men are caught in their fear
of the wrong kind.
4) Identification with a habitual, false, constricted
self or ego
Buddhists fulfill these causes of
suffering by their very ways! What
they say here
is true. Ironically, they deceive
themselves by rejecting
the gospel of the Lord
Jesus Christ and solidly identifying
as their way of victory. According
Scripture, our only hope is a savior,
the Lord Jesus
Ordained One, the Messiah, the
Savior of all mankind.
As it is written: “And there
is salvation in no other One; for there
is no other name under Heaven given
among men by which we must be saved” (Acts
I know this: I was not
able to be myself, my true self, until
Lord Jesus Christ had accomplished
in me. This took many
years. Only He could do it.
5) Fear of death
It seems to me that men’s striving
to perform the disciplines we will discuss next is because they
fear death! Do they not wish to
live? And what man gains victory over
death? The Scriptures clearly declare that life is only
in the One Who said He IS Life Itself.
“In Him was
life, and the life was the light of men” (John 1:4).
The light of men? Are Buddhists not seeking to be “enlightened”?
life is the light of men. They have
no light of their own, yet think to
own power. And what of death? Here
is what the Scriptures declare:
(55) O death, where is your sting? O grave, where is your
(56) The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin
is the Law.
(57) But thanks be to God Who gives us the victory through
our Lord Jesus Christ.
Hebrews 2:14-18 MKJV
(14) Since then the children have partaken of flesh and blood, He also
Himself likewise partook of the same; that through death He might destroy
him who had the power of death (that is, the Devil),
(15) and deliver those who through fear of death were all their lifetime
subject to bondage.
(16) For truly He did not take the nature of angels, but He took hold
of the seed of Abraham.
(17) Therefore in all things it behooved Him to be made like His brothers,
that He might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining
to God, to make propitiation for the sins of His people.
(18) For in that He Himself has suffered, having been tempted, He is
able to rescue those who are being tempted.
Through suffering, the Lord Jesus
Christ won the victory for us.
to despise, or be ignorant
of, the sure way
of victory accomplished for them
and alleviate suffering as well, in
bliss. Though at first appearing to
be quite in
agreement with Christianity
and its principles,
how contrary is Buddhism
to Christ! It is a matter of God’s
way versus man’s way, God’s
wisdom versus man’s wisdom, God’s
power versus man’s power. But
power is vain and therefore not an
alternative at all. Consider that
while God has created
all things, man has yet to find
a way to create a hair, even though
he has a model to copy! But how wise
and powerful he thinks himself to be!
“When we know we are God,” these people declare, “we
connect to all beings through buddhahood.” Let
me quote the prophet Ezekiel:
"Son of man, say to the ruler of Tyre. So says the Lord GOD: Because
your heart is lifted up, and you have said, I am a god, I sit in the
seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet you are a man and not God,
though you set your heart as the heart of gods...
Will you yet say before
him who kills you, I am of the gods? But you are a man, and not God,
in the hand of him
who kills you"
(Ezekiel 28:2,9 MKJV).
prophet Isaiah prophecies of man:
Isaiah 14:13-15 MKJV
(13) For you have said in your heart, I will go up to the heavens, I
will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the
mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north.
(14) I will go up above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the
(15) Yet you shall be brought down to hell, to the sides of the Pit.
“Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a
fall,” says the Biblical proverb (Proverbs 16:18).
Is Buddhism in agreement with Christ
and the Bible? Hardly!
Thurman says, “God
means, ‘being in love with
everything.’” I don’t
think it would be so very hard
to prove that he and Chopra are not God. I truly believe
that it would not be too difficult to provoke them. Tweak
their noses unexpectedly and see
how far these instructors are in
evolution to enlightenment.
cannot God be provoked? Is He in love with everything?
many things - like pride, lying,
idolatry, and the wicked. It is
Proverbs 6:16-19 MKJV
(16) These six the LORD hates; yea, seven are hateful to
(17) a proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed
(18) a heart that plots wicked plans, feet hurrying to
run to evil,
(19) a false witness who speaks lies, and he who causes
fighting among brothers.
Those who pursue Buddhism or Vedanta
to free themselves pursue the
Yes, the Scriptures
surely teach that God is love (1
and that those who love are born of God. But
what is love? How does love enter
is it like? Men can
often try to portray love,
and some might do a rather impressive
job of it, but ultimately,
no man can love but that God
through him. That comes with a
new heart that only
God can give.
As it is written:
Ezekiel 36:26-29 MKJV
(26) And I will give you a new heart, and I will put a
new spirit within you. And I will take away the stony
heart out of your flesh, and I will give you a heart of flesh.
(27) And I will put My Spirit within you and cause you
to walk in My statutes, and you shall keep My judgments
and do them.
(28) And you shall dwell in the land that I gave to your
fathers. And you shall be My people, and I will be your
(29) I will also save you from all your defilements,
and I will call for the grain, and will increase it,
lay no famine on you.
Those words become fulfilled when
Jesus Christ takes over, and
Chopra says, “Love is the ultimate truth
at the heart of creation.”
True enough! But he goes on to say, “If
I start to peel the layers of my soul, I
begin to go beyond my constricted, fabricated self and
who I really am.” What
does God say about that? Hear
His words by Jeremiah:
is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked;
who can know it? I the LORD search the heart, I
try the reins, even to give to each man according to
his ways, according to the fruit of his doings" (Jeremiah 17:9-10
Yes, men fool themselves by their
own hearts, or rather, are
their own hearts.
then can peel back the
layers of his soul? Who
can know himself
by his own power? Not man,
that is for
We need a savior, every one
of us, and the Bible is very
clear on Who that Savior
While at first glance
things can look similar, upon
find them to
be very different.
Let us take
a look at the four alleged ways to freedom:
1) Karma Yoga – reminding yourself that
God does everything, not you. You aren’t
the one doing it, whatever
clearly teaches the concept
God does not
sin, man does.
not lie, man does.
God does not
break His Law, man does. Many
things God tells man not
to do, yet
he does it
and suffers for it.
are four ways to enlightenment
with God, being God. We
there is only ONE
through faith in
death and resurrection.
It is not God
Chopra and Thurman, as much
as they would like to
2) Love – the
easiest and most enjoyable
Deepak says, “Love
is the ultimate truth at the heart of creation.” Then
why is love
listed as number two? And how is it
we can practice
end to get
to the end?
If I travel the ocean to London, is London the ocean
and the vessel? If I
go to the garden on a cobblestone
path to get
tomatoes, can I eat the
cobblestones? Or can I taste
in my footsteps? If love
is the easiest
and most enjoyable
with self-analysis, disciplines,
and the other
three ways? How
confused are these people!
3) Raja Yoga – meditation
and allied disciplines, searching
to search for if one can
love? How much meditation
does it take to attain freedom from suffering? Who has
the time for it all?
What’s wrong with
I tell you, seeker,
that there is an implication
here, by listing four
ways, that love is not
so easy, but very difficult,
even impossible. Otherwise
they would not be suggesting
other alternatives. Why
impossible? It takes God,
Who is Love, to accomplish
His will in man.
Man is utterly incapable.
As Jesus said, “With
men this is impossible.
With God, all things are
19:26). They ought to heed
the words of the One
they call an enlightened
one. Their words are but
ignorant flatteries toward
Jesus Christ. In their
darkness, they call darkness
darkness. Woe to them! Watch
their end, but
for the grace of God Whom
4) Jnana Yoga – intellectual approach – using
the intellect to go beyond
thou fly? No wings? Fly
and thou shalt have
wings to fly!
around that one! What a
is what God has to
vain in their
imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
(22) Professing to be wise, they became fools
(23) and changed the glory of the incorruptible God
into an image made like corruptible man, and birds,
animals, and creeping things.
(24) Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness
through the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their
(25) For they changed the truth of God into a lie,
and they worshiped and served the created thing more
the Creator, Who is blessed forever. Amen.
say that when one reaches enlightenment,
it is experiential
knowledge of immortality
that solves all suffering.
There is truth here.
They say several
things. When Jesus Christ
brought me to enlightenment,
which He is,
Jesus said that
by faith in Him, I
would never die. Thus, I am on
for others. What
these men fail
to realize, however,
is that they
attain this state
is no other
They do not
need of a
savior, the Savior,
the ONLY Savior. Lacking
Him, they have
and no reality.
say that the West is
only beginning its
began 2,000 years
ago. How ludicrous!
How is it
that the West has been
predominant in wealth
and power in the
world while India is
full of superstition,
poverty, and paganism?
They worship cows,
all sorts of animals
the Ganges River; they
caste system, and poverty
and disease are rampant.
On and on it goes.
is no doubt that where the
influence of Christianity
has been, there has been
a positive effect, and where
there has been less
of Christianity, we see
deprivation, decadence, depression,
death, and damnation. Am
I saying that gain is godliness?
No, I am not. I am merely
asking, if the
Indians have renaissance
and enlightenment, leading
us by 2,000 years, why
do they have such dismal
results? If theirs is renaissance
and enlightenment, let fools steer clear and they will be the better
On this point Deepak and
While Thurman praised India
for its “deep spirituality,” Deepak
gently urged Thurman to
consider that for the most
backward and brutish. I
give him credit for that.
say that Himalayan culture
teaches death as
I know that
when I have
up the cross to follow Christ,
dying to self, I have been
they again speak that which
is true. But
emancipating if by
of Christ. I see many die
are not set free. Truly,
death because of
sin is a consequence
not a liberation (the wages
of sin is death – Romans 3:23).
is there liberation. So,
again, they are truly way
off the mark.
say that human history has
been one of torment.
They say that
is the answer,
and that it
cannot be stopped because
all the technology,
it will be manifest!” they
say. They say that there
are many gods and
goddesses watching over us,
guiding us to our harbors.
They say these nurturing
beings are there because
are so inept.
How is their
thinking so full of darkness
saved men throughout
without science, without
without mass media. He is
All Powerful, All
Knowing, All Loving, All
Present, but He needs the
advancements of inept
mankind to save
things like technology
and the physical as ephemeral,
not real, transitory, illusory,
insubstantial; then they
speak of them as being
our true hope for enlightenment!
So the hope,
not in the Lord Jesus
They even fail to give Buddha
to have been enlightened,
way to enlightenment
the aid of computers or
global mass media
over 2,500 years
"Professing to be wise,
they became fools
the glory of the incorruptible
God into an image made like
corruptible man, and birds, and four-footed animals, and
(Romans 1:22-23 MKJV).
They declare that there
are seven levels of consciousness:
1) Deep sleep – a
of awareness, which everyone
2) Dreams – very
real, they say.
dream – our waking state of consciousness.
They say we don’t know
that it is transitory, illusory,
insubstantial, and therefore
first glimpse of soul – waking
reality into glimpsing
the soul. "Buddha"
means "awake." He
5) Cosmic consciousness – ever-present
awareness after peeling off
all layers. We can do it
say. In this
there is no more fear of death,
by knowing the unknown.
A little diversion
here. Back in 1971,
Harry Roder held
on the teachings
Fleet. In these seminars,
if attended faithfully,
hung a chart up on the
state. As we
looked on, I asked him
what level he had attained.
After some moments
silence, someone in
the curious audience
that man asked you
a question.” He
suddenly and angrily
blurted out, “And
he’ll be waiting
a long time for an answer!” We
were all surprised at
his reaction. “What
had I done?” we
all wondered. Seemed
to me that one who was
promising "cosmic consciousness"
it, would he not?
And if he had it, why
he get so upset with
an innocent question?
There is only one
answer: These people
have a lot of theory
and imagination, but precious little
practicality or substance.
Therefore, in their
wisdom, they are quite
on sand and not on rock,
and it often does
not take a storm to
bring their structures
down or at least
to expose their weakness.
6) Seeing all in all,
an ever-present awareness.
I don’t know what the
difference is between this one
and cosmic consciousness,
but then, do they?
7) Enlightenment – all
perception. The subject
and object of perception
is actually the same
presence. I don’t
who teach such states
can only speak
if they have been
I have yet to meet
met the Lord Jesus
Christ! He has brought me
to a consciousness
has brought me up from
the grave, to live
forevermore. I see and hear
perceive that which the carnal
even imagine. I
know that which the greatest
but by the spirit.
The spirit cannot grasp these
dimension, a new life, power,
and purpose foreign
Yes, I have that
I AM that
Yet I am
I did or
not my own.
in His Name.
will not need
or computers or mass
They will need
sin and faith
call upon His
ashamed, I can assure
you. It is as simple as that, so simple a child can
Thurman, or anyone
they do. I
thought I was
spoke of Jesus as Lord and Savior of all.
was! He is
the Lord! Am
a whit. Those
is certainly a
and rich men
of the world
and Robert, I have
telling you the
one day. Come away from your darkness, deception, and foolishness!
Give all praise and
the Lord Jesus